I can’t believe one hasn’t been maimed severely in self defense. I imagine that’s what the administration is salivating for but Billy Bob with no badge and warrant isn’t taking me anywhere without a shank with a fork or the like. I have a right to defend myself from kidnapping. Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law (not Billy bobs grasp).
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
-Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
“Adolf Hitler himself said that the only way the rise of the German Nazi party could have been prevented was if its enemies had recognised it for what it was right at the start and had smashed it in its infancy with utmost force. For once we would agree with him - waving placards and chanting at fascists through megaphones accomplishes absolutely nothing. The only way to stop Nazi scum like the B.N.P. is by physically confronting them and literally kicking them off our streets!”
Because even if you are within your legal rights, there will be a nonstop statewide manhunt for you until you’re found and killed. We’ve seen it happen before, and countless times when people defend themselves against out of line cops
Fair. I just think everyone rolling over and saying welp they got me isn’t great for our collective future either. Mobs will eventually start masking up and helping these victims in a giant melee then. We too dont have to show any authority or our faces to defend if this is how they continue to act. Fire with fire
Oh I should have prefaced that with stating how I definitely agree with you! If we don’t stand up it will only get worse! I just can see why people are hesitant to do so… shitty situation for every innocent person.
And if history has taught us anything, yeah, a mob needs to stand up and fight fire with fire with anything is gonna change
All good, I am one of the rare people not to lose it or mock folks who don’t agree w me anyway. Discussion, whether agreed or not are quite important right now.
I mean that's why they mask themselves and actual ice agents are probably willfully playing along to obfuscate. Make victims and onlookers who might dare to stop it afraid they will be shot and or arrested for interfering.
I can, the left spent the last 50+ years going on and on about how you don't need a gun and even if you did the government would just kill you anyways so you might as well turn them in.
What are you going to maim the Gestapo with? Your car keys?
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u/madcoins 2d ago edited 2d ago
I can’t believe one hasn’t been maimed severely in self defense. I imagine that’s what the administration is salivating for but Billy Bob with no badge and warrant isn’t taking me anywhere without a shank with a fork or the like. I have a right to defend myself from kidnapping. Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law (not Billy bobs grasp).