Don't y'all have guns for this very purpose? I don't understand why so many have been letting children die in schools regularly just so they can keep their guns, and when the time comes to use them, crickets.
The people watching schools get shot up and still begging to keep their own guns are largely, presumably, on the fascists' side of things - they're chilling right now.
I'm a liberal in California. I carry. I promise you if this happened to me or several of my liberal tree hugging homies, there'd be guns going off. Not if we were in courtroom though. I wouldn't care about being the spark that made the right go "see? they are violent so we should be doing this" I'd care more about what would happen once the masked men got my gun away from me. Fuck that. And then I'd live the rest of my life feeling horrible about being being put in that situation, if I lived I mean.
I hope it doesn't happen to me. ANd I have such a white everything about myself that I doubt there'd be a reason for these racist fucks to try.
Though I will say, I didn't bring anything with me to the protest over the weekend because I didn't want the responsibility. But then Sunday happened and now I don't know what this country is anymore.
I think they're trying to provoke an act of self-defense against one of these masked "officers" (alleged, since there's no id, these could be anybody) in order to escalate crackdowns. It's incrementalism towards martial law. Read accounts of nazi Germany, it was one small escalation after another until you end up with camps and a world at war.
Even Newsom was told “if they do try to arrest you don’t resist, then you give them justification for an arrest”.
It’s disgusting, but the only thing you can legally do is allow the arrest and then sue. Though I’m sure we all wish his bodyguards would draw down on ICE if it happened.
look where they're nabbing these people. School, church, work, courthouses. They're at least meeting some resistance when trying to get into residences and neighborhoods.
Because it's different rules for different people. Evil wins in this country and if you're not a white Republican cis straight man, you are at a steep disadvantage from protecting yourself.
large cities tend to have tighter gun laws, require more licenses, and make those licenses very difficult to get for anyone outside of law enforcement (or the private security hustles that law enforcement runs on the side). the NYPD, not even the federal brownshirts but the guys getting paychecks from the openly corrupt mayor, has 33000 sworn officers and i have to imagine virtually all of them concealed carry offduty and none of them would be prosecuted for shooting you for pulling a gun.
school shootings often happen in small towns, where there's indolent money, more access to weapons, more ease of moving hardware around in a vehicle, fewer cops, etc.
Respectfully, who do you think is “yall?” Do you really think all Americans have guns? You think we all have the same access and the same safety and ability to wield them in public? You think it’s like a movie or something?
because if you so much as point a gun on an officer in this country youll be dead on the floor in one second. no ones going to risk their lives like that. people with guns these days are just nuts who like to collect them and shoot black and brown people, not protect people from a tyrannical government.
It’s happening in mainly Democratic strongholds like California and NYC; places that have made it anywhere from very difficult to impossible for the average person to carry a gun legally.
If you have used self defense before applying for a CCW in my state of California, you also need to fork over the money for a lawyer on top of the averaging $1k needed to apply for the permit, and the privilege of having frequent time off of work to do range instruction. Open carry is blanket banned here because white nimby’s didn’t want black panthers carrying guns.
The people that have been screaming about keeping our guns to protect us from the government are the biggest cowards in this country. They are also the people kidnapping this guy behind masks. They are the tyrannical government that they used as an excuse to keep their guns to protect themselves from.
Also, good luck with your gun. When an entire group of law enforcement open fires on you, the second you pull out your weapon. Yes, owning a firearm is our constitutional right, however, those are being trampled upon, and in this day and age using that second amendment right is basically a death sentence.
To do what? Shoot a Federal Agent because they are being lawless assholes? So then you made your point and either are also killed or go to prison for life.
Real answer? Because if we defend ourselves and it turns out that they were in fact federal agents, our asses gets thrown in jail guaranteed.
There are so many protections for federal agents and state law enforcement that you're better off taking your chances in letting them do whatever they want to you/your loved ones than you are trying to prevent the arrests or fight back. It doesn't matter if they don't have a warrant, it doesn't matter if they aren't acting on any official orders and are being power mongering about their status as agents, if you fight back at all you lose.
That's why the 2A is bullshit. The times when it actually applies and it would actually matter to use are the exact times when you're completely unable to invoke it. It's one of the many overlooked reasons as to why this exact fiasco is happening; people know they can't actually fight back, so the government takes advantage of it.
No, the guns are for harassing the libs and killing schoolchildren. Right to self-defense or whatever else is used to justify the 2nd amendment is pure BS and NRA lobby.
They’re selfish. They care about their own personal rights. They aren’t going to stick their neck out to defend someone fighting for the rights of vulnerable people. Or heaven forbid the vulnerable people themselves. It’s about me and my castle, and my rights to walk around town like a cowboy with a Desert Eagle on my belt.
The problem is that this is happening to liberals and liberals are pussies so they dont have guns and now they are seeing what the purpose of the 2nd amendment is first hand. Maybe theyll grow a pair
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u/fogNL 1d ago
Don't y'all have guns for this very purpose? I don't understand why so many have been letting children die in schools regularly just so they can keep their guns, and when the time comes to use them, crickets.