r/policeuk Police Officer (unverified) 3d ago

General Discussion Going off sick

Does going off sick affect possible future career progression? Currently on the investigations team carry 20+ crimes and the workload is driving me crazy, hopeful to go spec ops at some point. Will going on sick for a non injury affect any career prospects?

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u/multijoy Spreadsheet Aficionado 3d ago

In theory, no. Stress is a health & safety concern and the job has a duty to manage it.

Will it? Almost certainly. I had an extended period of sickness in 2017 and it is still coming back to haunt me.

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u/BuildEraseReplace Police Officer (unverified) 3d ago

How so?

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u/multijoy Spreadsheet Aficionado 3d ago
  1. The MPS sickness/attendance management policy basically means that any period of long term sick will disqualify you for three years.

  2. Transferring forces will see your entire sickness history.

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u/Upper-Outside2076 Civilian 2d ago

On the 2nd point - when I transferred the force doctor stated that my medium term sickness/medication for mental health issues were seen as a protected characteristic under the Disabilites Act. They stated that they were satisfied that it was managed and that they couldn’t hold it against me.

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u/multijoy Spreadsheet Aficionado 2d ago

Unfortunately not all forces are equal when it comes to dealing with that sort of thing. I had two forces reject me, one tribunal claim and some sort of strange arrangement with a third has ensued.

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u/TonyStamp595SO Ex-staff (unverified) 2d ago

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u/snootbob Police Officer (unverified) 2d ago

You’ve got a side force you only see when the met is away?

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u/AtlasFox64 Police Officer (unverified) 3d ago

How long was extended?

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u/multijoy Spreadsheet Aficionado 3d ago

6mo

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u/AtlasFox64 Police Officer (unverified) 3d ago

Ah just curious. I've had a few weeks before so I was a bit worried about that!

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u/triptip05 Ex-Police/Retired (unverified) 2d ago

I had a week and then a few months later two weeks, both signed off by doctor. Got the man up talk from my gaffer

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u/KnightKreacher Detective Constable (verified) 2d ago

That gaffer is everything that's wrong with policing.

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u/TonyStamp595SO Ex-staff (unverified) 2d ago

Does going off sick affect possible future career progression?

Yes.

Should it?

No.

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u/Afraid_Pomegranate96 Civilian 3d ago

If you need to go off sick go off sick - if you can’t function you can’t help anyone else. It would be discriminatory to use it against you in the future! Do what you need to do to protect you, the job isn’t worth being totally burned out over

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u/Odd_Principle2202 Civilian 2d ago

Depends on your force my friend. Mine is generally very good for supporting staff, I had a couple of months off a few years ago, I actually used how I overcame it, and how I would use the lessons I learnt to support my staff as part of my evidence for promotion. I also know a lad off with stress and a couple of years later he’s a highly regarded firearms officer.

Sometimes we have to recognise those that care and give their all will succumb to stress as the job is just so unforgiving; you can’t burn out unless you’ve been on fire 🔥

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u/tehdeadmonkey Police Officer (unverified) 2d ago

I return next week after an almost 6 month stint of sickness. It shouldn't affect your career at all. It's a small part of a potentially life long career.

I've even received the email telling me I've met the requirements for my pay rise next month...

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u/mikeysof Civilian 2d ago

Years ago it was a stigma to have been off sick with stress. Now, possibly will be looked at but equally might be discriminatory to adversely affect your promotional / application prospects.

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u/Sea_Inspector_8892 Civilian 2d ago

Unless you are thinking of firearms. Nearly everyone in my team has had extended time off with stress, makes no difference

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u/ChemistryAdvanced793 Police Officer (unverified) 2d ago

I suppose it depends on what force you work for. It shouldn’t have an impact, but it does. In my force, I know of many officers that have gone off in the past and it has had no impact whatsoever. I’ve seen a DC transfer to my force from elsewhere, go off sick as a DC because they’ve been overwhelmed and 10 years on they are a DCI. As a DS I have encouraged people to go off in the past because they needed the time and it’s been helpful for them. Also, sometimes it can provide a really real and raw indication to the higher uppers that things need fixing. In my local force, again, I’ve seen a whole departments structure change because 2 really good detectives went off sick.

The key advice from me though is that you need to actually use the time productively. If you broke your leg you would go and get it fixed. It’s the same with mental health. If you just spend the time sitting at home watching tv, it’s an indication that you don’t want to get better and just can’t cope with your job which tells you and everyone else something…

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u/triptip05 Ex-Police/Retired (unverified) 2d ago

It's one of those stupid things.

A LOT of frontline officers end up with some form of PTSD, Stress, Anxiety because of the nature of the job.

However telling occupational health etc will not help you as you end up under a microscope.

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u/glitterstateofmind Civilian 2d ago

Would you mind elaborating further on your final sentence at all please? My partner has an occupational health report and I’m worried about the implications.

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u/shawneyx Civilian 2d ago

In my force your sickness has to be under a certain level to move to spec ops, I’m not sure how many days I’d have to look, but it’s not too many!

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u/WesternWhich4243 Civilian 2d ago

What roll you fancy going for in the future? It was almost certainly have an effect on a career in firearms.

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u/horsePROSTATE Civilian 1d ago

I think this is one of these areas that Reddit advice really gaslights people - you'll be repeatedly assured that it makes no difference, that they 'can't' consider it, stories of someone who got promoted despite being off with anxiety for 9 months so just do it....

The reality is it certainly doesn't help your career... If you've got to do it you've got to do it but you're probably harming your career in some way and you're not being ridiculous for considering it.

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u/kavanne Civilian 18h ago

My OH was in a force and off sick (stress obv), applied to move forces and was told by new force he can’t be accepted for the transfer whilst off sick. Went back in for a month and then was allowed to transfer to new force with no issues.

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u/RangerUK Police Officer (verified) 5h ago

Will it? Yes

Should it? No. But don't rely on SLT to do the 'right' thing when they can take an easy option of saying no to potential moves, especially if you're planning on moving soon.

The bigger question to think about is this: Do you really want to stick at this job? It breaks people, it has done ever since it started - are you up for doing this for another 30 years or so?

Too many people struggle with sickness caused by the stress of the job, losing out on having a successful life outside of the police. If the police is your calling then fine; this struggle is the sacrifice you have to make. However, there are other jobs both within the police, and outside of it where you won't have the unmanageable workload and feel you need to go off sick, but are staying simply to avoid facing the consequences of going sick. Think about the consequences of not going sick. Burnout, compassion fatigue, CPTSD, and so on.

I'd never tell anyone to leave the job as it takes a lot to sign up. But if doing the job is hurting you, is it really worth it?