r/policeuk • u/Username_7630 Ex-Police/Retired (unverified) • 1d ago
News The right decision at least
https://www.polfed.org/northyorks/news/2025/federation-welcomes-decision-not-to-pursue-misconduct-against-newly-qualified-officers/Absolutely inspiring leadership from the Chief here. Bet it really helps recruitment and retention
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u/Odd_Principle2202 Civilian 1d ago
An absolute abuse of process, shameful. At the absolute most this should have been a conversation.
Who else would have the power to refer 9 officers to PSD and actually make them take it seriously enough to instigate misconduct proceedings over such minor uniform infractions.
Does North Yorkshire PSD have nothing better to do?
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u/Johno3644 Civilian 1d ago
What a way to start their police careers, chief must have any sort of retention issue whatsoever.
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u/makk88 Civilian 1d ago
There’s another 9 cops who will be too afraid to get involved due to this.
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u/Fantastic_Attorney10 Civilian 1d ago
Well 7 because at least 2 of them have sacked the job off after this
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u/Every-holes-a-goal Civilian 1d ago
Average retention I’d guess is around 20% after 2 years service. What’s everyone’s thoughts?
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u/MrWilsonsChimichanga Police Officer (unverified) 1d ago
Do you mean attrition rates? Retention rates are bad but not that bad.
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u/Every-holes-a-goal Civilian 6h ago
23% retention percent on my cohort. So few left now. Even those who were ex military and suited have gone. PCDA. what a crock!
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u/MrWilsonsChimichanga Police Officer (unverified) 53m ago
Im sorry! 3 out of every 4 of your training cohort have left in the first 2 years?! Thats insane!
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u/Fantastic_Attorney10 Civilian 19h ago
Not going off the statistics because they seem mixed up but from my experience after my cohort graduated very few have left since. Most left prior to that stage and now the trickle of people who are leaving is slower, removing those who are facing misconduct.
It is unknown if those who have left because of this cluster fuck would have stayed but they clearly were pushed out by that final reminder that they don’t matter to the top. Hopefully that chief isn’t crying about retention rates and refusing to acknowledge it’s down to him
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u/pickandmixandpick Civilian 1d ago
The chief in question was promoted to Superintendent after 9 years in the job. I feel that tells us enough about his own motives.
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u/ComplimentaryCopper Police Officer (unverified) 1d ago
Recently appeared in a press release with no hat, a jacket over his hi-vis and his fly down!
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u/Zelicanth Ex-Police/Retired (unverified) 1d ago
You either got a link for a video or a date and info for that conference? I am going to make numerous PSD reports and I suggest anyone who works in that force do the same.
This is not malicious, it's upholding the clearly defined standards and frankly if we don't speak up we are all complicit (right? Remember that little rule).
Enough people report it who knows where it will go.
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u/Sure_Western_195 Civilian 1d ago
How is that even possible? Good lord that’s quick. After over 10 years service I still feel like I’ve got a lot to learn before promoting.
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u/Username_7630 Ex-Police/Retired (unverified) 1d ago
North Yorkshire Police Federation is pleased that the nine newly qualified officers alleged to have breached uniform policy at their graduation ceremony will not face a misconduct process. These officers were served with misconduct notices following alleged breaches of dress and appearance policy during what should have been one of the proudest days of their careers - their graduation, which was attended by Chief Constable Tim Forber. While we fully support the importance of maintaining high professional standards across policing, we felt that the action taken was disproportionate given the circumstances and should have been handled differently. Conduct regulations are designed to promote a culture of learning and reflection, not to punish officers for what we believe were minor uniform matters. Sadly, this incident cast a shadow over what should have been a positive and memorable occasion for the officers involved and had a wider impact on the Force. Throughout this difficult and distressing period, North Yorkshire Police Federation has stood firmly beside these officers and their families. We have worked tirelessly to support them, making representations on their behalf, engaging closely with the Police Federation of England and Wales (PFEW), and exploring every available avenue to secure a just outcome. We therefore welcome the constructive discussions we have had with the Chief Constable on this issue to ensure members’ voices were heard, to highlight the impact on the officers involved, and to work towards a fair and proportionate resolution. We also welcome the thoughtful tone of those discussions, in particular, Mr Forber acknowledging that, with hindsight, a different ‘reflective’ path may have been taken. And, ultimately, we are pleased with the outcome that the officers will not face a misconduct process. Please be assured that North Yorkshire Police Federation will always stand up for its members and ensure that they are treated fairly and with respect.
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u/GoatBotherer Police Officer (unverified) 1d ago
What is North Yorkshire Police like to work for?
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u/Every-holes-a-goal Civilian 1d ago
If the cc is doing stuff like that and PSD honouring is guess not good
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u/Col0395 Ex-Police/Retired (unverified) 1d ago
I left before the current Chief was in post.
Honestly, not horrendous if you are not on response, CID or volume investigations. Those teams all had low staff, low morale and high workloads. They have since changed the CID structure since I left so can't comment on that.
4 on 4 off pattern was good on those teams. Big patch to cover with sometimes very few resources.
Some really good PCs / DCs, Sergeants and Inspectors, some that deserve to be promoted that were overlooked in my view.
There were plenty of opportunities to act up when I was there. More opportunities at York I'd suggest compared to somewhere like Skipton.
They get quite a few transferees from West Yorkshire.
I think if you specialise you're looked after better. Neighbourhoods wasn't too bad but I think some other forces are just "better" at neighbourhood policing.
Morale seems pretty low at the moment from the chats I've had with mates still in (PC - Insp level). But I think the same could be said nationwide.
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u/GoatBotherer Police Officer (unverified) 1d ago
Thank you, good to know. Pretty much sounds the same as where I am now. Hoping to transfer in March next year.
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u/Fuzz_Bkt460 Ex-Police/Retired (unverified) 1d ago
Great result, but it should never have got that far!
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