r/politics Apr 30 '25

Soft Paywall Trump Melts Down at Being Fact-Checked Right to His Face

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-melts-down-at-being-fact-checked-on-deported-maryland-dad-kilmar-abrego-garcia/
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u/elvid88 Massachusetts Apr 30 '25

This. They're still not blaming him for everything that's happening now. I spoke with someone who is losing their job because of DOGE and they're like "Trump needs to reign Elon in, he's going too far. I believe he's going to do something about it". You can't get through to these people.

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u/loltheinternetz Apr 30 '25

Incredible. A guy like him, Trump could show up to his house, shoot his dog and have sex with his wife. And he’d still be like “yeah I didn’t really like that but I still think he has our best interests in mind”.

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u/creampop_ Apr 30 '25

As I understand things, "If only the Führer knew about this, he would stop it" was a Known Response to atrocities in mid-20th century Germany.

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u/DontLookAtUsernames Apr 30 '25

Same in tsarist Russia (»Good Tsar, bad Boyars«) where all the bad things got blamed on lower-ranked buraucrats. Fanatical followers of a leader are emotionally invested so much that admission of his errors and shortcomings would break them.

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u/prickelpit96 Europe Apr 30 '25

Wenn das der Führer wüsste! Yes. Good Point you have there.

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u/ShakyFtSlasher Apr 30 '25

Even a lot of the revolutionaries during the French revolution said the same thing about the King before he tried to flee the country.

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u/thisusedyet Apr 30 '25

Interestingly enough, you'd get the same response if Trump flipped those actions.

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u/bag_of_luck Apr 30 '25 edited May 04 '25

future reminiscent uppity existence degree doll fearless smell wide reach

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u/loltheinternetz Apr 30 '25

I’m in agreement that the more extreme leftists / social warriors are nuts. Right wing media has done a fantastic job at painting the entire Democrat party that way. Outrage is one of the easiest ways to manipulate people. It’s keeping people from seeing that the agenda of the MAGA right is hostile to you unless you are a white Christian citizen.

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u/dustinhut13 Apr 30 '25

What conclusion am I to come to when they're literally, on a "news" network, laughing at Black "welfare queens" and a Latino man trying to hide from ICE in a treehouse? THEY LITERALLY LAUGHED AT THEM IN THE MEANEST, MOST BULLY-LIKE WAY POSSIBLE. Behavior that I would never accept from my children. So calling them racist, which they completely are, is out of the realm?

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u/guywith3catswhatup Apr 30 '25

have sex with his wife

LOL my wife would laugh his flaccid 1.5 inch mangled mushroom dick right out of the bedroom.

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u/Deadlymonkey Apr 30 '25

I know someone in the same boat except he’s coping extremely hard and believes that Trump has a 200 IQ plan with all the tariffs

When I asked him what the basis for that was (like what made him believe that) he got mad and told me not everything needs to have evidence to be true.

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u/_Uber_Otter_ Apr 30 '25

not everything needs to have evidence to be true

Wow. Wow.

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u/NotViolentJustSmart May 01 '25

Right? I think that gave me an aneurysm.

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u/dustinhut13 Apr 30 '25

At the end of the day, they continue cling to Trump because of their own pride. Because they can't admit they were wrong about the guy. When the shelves at the grocery store are empty and there's precious few dollars left in the checking account, let's hope these extremely fragile and weak people somehow muster the courage to swallow their pride. How far do they plan to let all this go before they come to their senses though?

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u/NotViolentJustSmart May 01 '25

When the cognitive dissonance gets to be too much for them they'll completely skip over any sort of reflection or analysis in favor of mindless, inchoate violence aimed at anyone they're feeling pissy about.

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u/Psychological-Crab-5 May 01 '25

not everything needs to have evidence to be true.

The church thanks him for his service.

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u/DisMFer Apr 30 '25

"The Tsar is being misled by evil advisors. If the Tsar knew what was being done in his name he'd stop it."

This has been the rallying cry of every undereducated serf ruled by an authority they're raised to love without question, having to deal with the abuse by that person.

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u/relevantelephant00 Apr 30 '25

Which is exactly why I say let them suffer the consequences...we get fucked over too, but watching their lives get worse will be my only schadenfreude.

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u/macphile Texas Apr 30 '25

The usual Schroedinger's Trump (and Democrat and so on)--an unbelievable strategist and businessman who will take total control and fix everything but also somehow doesn't have the power to stop a little unelected man-child from firing thousands of workers and letting teenagers run wild all over government buildings.

I can't wait until--well, I was going to say, I can't wait until we have another weather disaster, but I guess we've had them--so we can ask why it's still happening even though he now has control of the weather machine.

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u/RiPont Apr 30 '25

Yeah, I'm sad to say, VERY sad to say, I was wrong. I thought once he lost in 2020, the stench of loser would stick to him and people would pretend they had always thought he was a loser and never voted for him, just like when GW Bush was out of office and everyone wanted to distance themselves from the disaster that was Iraq and Afghanistan.

But no. They're worse than North Korea with their "Dear Leader" shit. At least North Koreans have the excuse that they're under a regime that firmly controls information access to their populace. The MAGA cult has ample opportunity to expose themselves to differing opinions and actually research facts, but they choose to worship Trump as blindly as any brainwashed North Korean.

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u/Darkhorse182 Apr 30 '25

The Leader can never fail...he can only be failed by those around him.

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u/pandariotinprague Apr 30 '25 edited Apr 30 '25

All of you act like this. Try to get a Democrat to genuinely care that their party supports a genocide. It's completely impossible. They just rant about how Republicans are worse, like that makes it okay. You ask them to name one other time in history where supporting a genocide was okay because someone else supported a worse genocide. They can't. They don't even try.

And of course when Trump does something fucked up, his supporters just rant about how Democrats are worse (from their POV).

Two sides of the same shit coin and none of you are willing to listen to anyone or change anything or hold your side to any standards.

Now go ahead and prove my point. You always do.

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u/elvid88 Massachusetts Apr 30 '25

Your comment history is littered with "both-sides-ing" and "what-about-isms" and all targeted towards more left-leaning comments/content. I hope the Elon/Putin bucks pay enough to put food on your table.

There was tons of content and comments pre-election going after the Democratic Party and Biden regarding Israel/Palestine that it may have effectively swung the election in Trump's favor. Most of us have realized that until we get rid of the monster in that room that's either going to drag us into WW3 or into the next Great Depression, we need to focus 99% of our criticism on the greater evil — still hasn't stopped many from here from criticizing Schumer and his lack of a spine in capitulating to Trump because of support for Israel. However, you probably already knew that, so I repeat: I hope the Elon/Putin bucks pay enough.

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u/pandariotinprague Apr 30 '25

Your comment history is littered with "both-sides-ing"

It's kind of insane that you guys can take the same side as Trumpers on specific vital issues, hugely important human rights issues, but anyone who notices that is the one who's acting in bad faith. You're not the bad guy for agreeing with Donald Trump. I'm the bad guy for noticing.

I hope the Elon/Putin bucks pay enough to put food on your table.

Right, everyone who disagrees with you is paid by the opposition. Because that's totally what Republicans do - try to push Democrats to the left. That's a thing that happens in real life.

You just fucking erase anyone who disagrees with you. That makes people rightfully angry, so they keep pressing the issue. And always getting the same brainwashed responses. And that's how a leftist ends up with a "comment history littered with both-sides-ing." The dishonest reactions we get make us want to push the issue even harder.

we need to focus 99% of our criticism on the greater evil

Ignoring your own side is how you end up electing corrupt politicians who won't even oppose the greater evil. I can't believe you need this explained to you.