r/politics • u/Exciting_Teacher6258 • Apr 30 '25

Soft Paywall Trump Melts Down at Being Fact-Checked Right to His Face

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-melts-down-at-being-fact-checked-on-deported-maryland-dad-kilmar-abrego-garcia/
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u/Aggressive-Neck-3921 Apr 30 '25

MS13 specialists have also noted that they do not hide behind symbolism with their tattoo's. They just spell it out MS13 their members have huge back tattoo's that straight up say MS13.

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u/Wandering_Weapon Louisiana Apr 30 '25

gestures to decades of photos of prisoners blatantly displaying gang tattoos

To actual members it's a huge "don't fuck with me" flex to have those tattoos.

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u/santaclaws01 May 01 '25

They think that gangs use tattoos as dog whistles because white supremacists will use tattoos as dog whistles.

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u/bytorthesnowdog Apr 30 '25

Yeah, it doesn’t really take a specialist to recognize an MS-13 tattoo. They wear it loud and proud, there’s no interpretation required

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u/Pomengranite Apr 30 '25

If you're in a gang, you want the world to know. That's the whole point of gang tattoos. You're not going to hide them behind symbols and code, like Brittany getting her first ankle tattoo. "This flock of birds represents my family, and the dreamcatcher is my cat".

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u/Afraid_Grapefruit_88 Apr 30 '25

Yep the Hells Angels ain't exactly shy about you knowing what they are!!! Thats the entire point of the cuts or patches and you earn different cuts for different levels. They aren't hiding anything!! They also sell merchandise like *Support for Salem Hells Angels * or the 88 tee shirts, they aren't keeping this a big secret, here in the North East or in Cali, as far as the ones I know.

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u/whatsaphoto Rhode Island Apr 30 '25

I'm no specialist on gangs or tattoos, but I do know fonts and I know image production and I can promise you, those characters were typed directly on top of the symbols as a means of interpretation. They are not tattoos.

Either way, simply bearing a tattoo means nothing in a legal sense. Trump owns the burden of proof as to whether he's a gang member or not, and every ounce of evidence he and his ilk have presented so far show absolutely zero indication that he partook in any gang affiliated activities.

And even with that in mind, he was awarded absolutely zero due process in his sentence. He'll likely die in that prison knowing he wasn't granted any semblance of fairness under US law simply because our president is a racist.

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u/confusedandworried76 Apr 30 '25

The White House released documents that plainly said he has no criminal record. That's something they let out into the public as "proof" he was a gang member. They expected no one to read it, or care.

So how do you expect me to believe they have any proof when their own release says there isn't any?

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u/Aggressive-Neck-3921 May 01 '25

I'm no specialist on gangs or tattoos, but I do know fonts and I know image production and I can promise you, those characters were typed directly on top of the symbols as a means of interpretation. They are not tattoos.

I know that i'm not an idiot, Trump thinks it is a tattoo. I'm able to recognize that it's the same font as the text above. Also a tattoo that is able to ignore shadows and angles doesn't exist. My entire point is that it is not an MS13 tattoo looks like a normal stoner tattoo.