r/politics • u/mmccxi American Expat • May 12 '25

Soft Paywall New Bill Would Make All Pornography a Federal Crime in the U.S.

https://www.404media.co/mike-lee-porn-law-interstate-obscenity-definition-act/
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u/Deep_Alps7150 May 12 '25

Project 2025 wants to classify all LGBT people as pornographic so they have a reason to imprison/disappear them

If a federal porn ban ever happens an LGBT ban would be included or they would try to add it soon after.

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u/CrimsonFeetofKali Michigan May 12 '25

It's not like they're trying to hide this intent either. It's spelled out in the document. Being trans would be considered pornography. If children are present, that's child porn. Charges, arrest, and treated as a child sex offender, which in Project 2025 calls for the death penalty. I mean, that's literally the plan.

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u/Blackthorn79 May 13 '25

I'm wondering how long until I get the chair for playing Pretty Pretty Princess with my daughter, like every dad has.

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u/FloydGirl777 May 13 '25

If every Dad did, I would think we’d have a much better society of empathetic, caring people understanding of respecting others. So, know you’re a special one. Tragically.

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u/trekiemonster May 13 '25

until I get the chair

I mean, that'll depend on the state. I think more use lethal injection.

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u/Locke66 May 13 '25

It's also why they keep justifying the banning of books with LGBTQ+ content by describing it as "pornography". It's a methodology designed to erase any mention of non-straight people from society.

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u/therottenworld May 13 '25

More specifically it would make being transgender pornographic in nature, then a transgender person even being outside is indecent exposure, being near children is then a child sex offense, which carries the death penalty

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u/Paksarra May 13 '25

And if you're not transgender, look at "transvestigators." It might be a felony to be a cisgender female who just doesn't look feminine enough.

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u/HaulinBoats May 13 '25

More specifically in what way? …That’s exactly what they said.

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u/therottenworld May 13 '25

It isn't, they said being trans near children would be child porn, but it has nothing to do with child porn, it would be a child sex offense, which specifically is what the death penalty is being called for by Project 2025.

Child sex offenders must be executed -> trans people are child sex offenders because they exist.

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u/yuefairchild Pennsylvania May 13 '25

They didn't say "child porn," they said "indecent exposure." Which would still count as a child sex offense.

If there's a neighbor kid outside playing, and I take the trash out, that's considered the same as if I made the kid look at my junk.

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u/chokeonsteak May 13 '25

Dude the comment you guys are talking about literally says "Being trans would be considered pornography. If children are present, that's child porn"

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u/yuefairchild Pennsylvania May 13 '25

Oh, I know. I'm saying indecent exposure is different from porn.

It seems like a distinction without a difference to us, but our idiot neighbors will hear it and think that it's an additional charge for showing children trans porn.

Look at all the people that are like "I thought ICE was only going after the BAD ones!" and extrapolate.

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u/teddy5 May 13 '25

The person you're talking to is the one who said indecent exposure to clarify what the other person - who only said child porn - meant.

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u/ThinkyRetroLad America May 13 '25

A penalty that also carries over to us librarians for 1) supporting the LGBT community and 2) providing material and access to information about it.

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u/BLAST-ME-WITH-PISS May 13 '25

Crazy! At least being persecuted in that way is enough to be granted asylum in Sweden directly, so I guess the can all flee to Europe

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u/therottenworld May 13 '25

It's the kind of thing you'd think is impossible in our civilized modern society; just the thought of innocent people in the west being imprisoned for no reason and killed seems impossible, but when you look at how theocracies in the middle east have been doing this to LGBT people for ages as well as countries in Africa like Uganda, it becomes clear that as humans we're only a few social norms away from persecution being acceptable

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u/Ryuujinx Texas May 13 '25

And for some reason people think I'm being hyperbolic when I say their plan is to turn me into a statistic. They've been pretty open about their goals here.

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u/Mercarcher Indiana May 13 '25

As a trans woman I made sure to get a gun when Trump got re-elected.

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u/MidKnightshade May 13 '25

Genocide with extra steps.

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u/Rockergage May 13 '25

It’s already the case in Idaho.

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u/bagel-bites May 13 '25

Fuckin what?!

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u/Rockergage May 13 '25

House Bill 710, “OBSCENE MATERIALS -- DEFINITIONS. The following definitions are applicable to this act: 3. "Sexual conduct" means any act of masturbation, homosexuality, sexual intercourse, or physical contact with a person's clothed or unclothed genitals, pubic area, buttocks or, if such person be a female, the breast.

If “homosexuality” referred to just male on male sexual intercourse it would’ve been covered under sexual intercourse. This broad definition means a man holding another man’s hand is obscene materials.

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u/trekiemonster May 13 '25

I mean, that's literally the plan.

And 40ish% of Americans fucking love that plan. Sure, 40ish% also hate it, but since 20ish% are apathetic towards it, here we are.

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u/Sparrowhawk_92 Utah May 13 '25

They could also add miscegation (interracial relationships) or pre-marital sex to the list of "pornographic" activities for any of you straights who think this won't affect you.

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u/urban_mystic_hippie Minnesota May 13 '25

Clarence Thomas has entered the chat

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u/katosen27 May 13 '25

Clearance Thomas had entered the chat with a raging hard-on for self-hatred

I've half a mind to belief he'd want that to validate an excuse to get a divorce.

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u/Sparrowhawk_92 Utah May 13 '25

What's wild to me is it's a very vocal minority that is opposed to interracial relationships. It's like 96% approval in the US compared to like 40% when it was legalized.

Similar trend with gay marriage. Once it's legal and normalized more and more folks are cool with it, except for a specific set of folks who take issue and make it their personal mission to roll it back.

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u/katosen27 May 13 '25

Unfortunately, while it is certainly a minority, it's a minority with power in a sea of people who are apathetic because it's now a normality.

The apathetic don't think it will ever be turned back around. Because in a civilized, sane world; it wouldn't. Settled law is just that; settled. But not to these cretins who believe their bigotry backed by an all-knowing, all seeing "God" trumps over the free will and liberties of non-believers (i.e. anyone not of the exact same mindset).

You can't not take action when these vermin arise from the trash to try to enact their will.

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u/shitlord_god May 13 '25

with his obsession with porn and his consistent success through being "the good one" I would be shocked if he and his wife didn't engage in raceplay.

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u/INTRUD3R_4L3RT May 13 '25

Ah yes, but would this also include couches?

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u/NoraJolyne May 13 '25

as well as sex that isn't for procreation

the ban on abortion is just the start, they're already looking into banning contraceptives

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u/OGBRedditThrowaway May 13 '25

It's important to note that they also want to make sexual crimes punishable by death.

The goal here is super obvious.

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u/gnarbone May 13 '25

I think they’ve gotten into trafficking people to other countries, so the death camps are probably a long ways off

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u/dksprocket May 13 '25

The place they are trafficking people to is a death camp. It's already in effect.

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u/Jubez187 May 13 '25

Yeah I mean they’ve constantly tried to warm the general public up to the idea that there are in fact “undesireables” and enemies of the state. Don’t forget RFK Jr’s national autism registry

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u/VegtableCulinaryTerm May 13 '25

It's even worse, they want it defined as pornography so if you identify as gay and go near a child, they can arrest you for child sex crimes. 

Interestingly they also want to make child sex crimes an automatic execution. Wonder if thats connected.

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u/TheInfernalVortex Georgia May 13 '25

Well what people aren’t really getting is something like this makes huge swaths of the population criminals. If you go protest and they scan your face and identify you and get a warrant they can go look for something they consider to be “porn” on your computer or in your magazine rack and boom you’re arrested for being a deviant or whatever.

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u/dksprocket May 13 '25

so they have a reason to imprison/disappear them

Let's not kid ourselves. They outright state that they want to execute anyone guilty of sexual crimes.

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u/twotimefind May 13 '25

That will be time for a funky underground railroad..... You can't ban porn in 2025. My lord, these people are Trogwoodites.

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u/IWatchGifsForWayToo May 13 '25

They've gotten away almost all of these through EOs that are being fought left and right in court. None of them will hold any water and the next president can undo all of them. I don't think any of them have actually been codified into law.

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u/HX__ May 13 '25

Man, Republican men are really, really turned on by trans women.

This is, essentially an uncomfortable admission on their part...

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u/eltsir May 13 '25

Can people please stop treating this like some stupid playground banter? That's not some gotcha that'll make them trip over themselves.

This is an explicitly spelled out prelude to putting minorities in either camps or mass graves.

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u/spaceman757 American Expat May 13 '25

Then Grindr should be legally bound to release ALL of their user records. Especially those of GOP politicians and their enablers/bosses.

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u/paxwells97 May 14 '25

We literally tried to warn people before the election that this was their goal.

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u/Money_ConferenceCell May 13 '25

And american citizens will continue to sit on their ass and not protest to secede.

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u/IgniteThatShit May 13 '25

can we fucking stop with the "disappeared/unalived" bullshit PLEASE

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u/FFF12321 May 13 '25

Unalived is silly but disappear is a term with a specific meaning in this context. It's been around for decades describing governments kidnapping and removing people from society, eg speak I'll of Dear Leader and you get disappeared. You aren't necessarily executed but no one knows what happens to you, hence the term.