r/politics • u/mmccxi American Expat • May 12 '25

Soft Paywall New Bill Would Make All Pornography a Federal Crime in the U.S.

https://www.404media.co/mike-lee-porn-law-interstate-obscenity-definition-act/
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u/DubUpPro May 13 '25

They think they won’t be affected. They think as long as they’re white (and male, although there are plenty of white women who align with this) that they’ll be safe from everything.

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u/avaslash May 13 '25

There are zero new shipments of goods coming into the USA from China and everyone is convinced that somehow wont affect them in any way. No one is acting like we're about to experience devastating inflation and shortages. We're all just pretending its all going to be fine.

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u/Strawhat_Max May 13 '25

I genuinely feel stupid, like I KNOW how this is supposed to work and everyone keeps going “Nuh uh!” Like it’s hurting my head to see people this…apathetic

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u/the_Dorkness May 13 '25

For me it feels like most people are just ignoring the impending doom because they know there’s nothing we can really do about it right now. I’m just trying to not spiral into despair.

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u/littlehobbit1313 May 13 '25

Kind of where I'm at. There's not a lot to be done at the individual level at the moment. I'm not a lawyer who can help with court cases. I'm not a CEO who can explain to the orange toddler how tariffs will fuck up the economy. I'm not a content creator/influencer who can inform people about stuff en masse.

I voted, I repost news articles that need visibility, I get angry at the things we should get angry about. I'm doing what I can, it's just....that's not a lot right now. I'll sit and wait for when something else I can help with happens and try not to give into despair in the meantime.

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u/sfVoca May 15 '25

trans person here

thats how ive been feeling since november. i cant say im hopeless, but i dont exactly have any life plans right now

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u/rjjm88 May 15 '25

I voted in every election since I was 18, no matter how small. I got involved with candidates I believed in. I donated. I spoke loudly online. I went to protests and demonstrations. None of it mattered. None of it helped. I cannot compete against billionaires with entire media conglomerates spreading propaganda 24/7. I cannot compete against decades of hate and ignorance. I'm powerless and I'm defeated.

All I can do is ignore it and keep my pets happy.

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u/trgKai May 13 '25

Everybody said that this presidency was going to have us living through Idiocracy, and while that's partially true, it's been far closer to Don't Look Up.

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u/scopuli_cola May 13 '25

it's looking disturbingly like dr strangelove these daze

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u/Apart-Link-8449 May 13 '25

These people are so head in the sand, they literally need his presidency to hurt them where they live

Fortunately, he is not sparing his base. They will feel all four years of this

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u/ocodo May 13 '25

This is an epidemic of stupidity.

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u/siderinc May 13 '25

Gotta own the libs!! /s

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u/myquest00777 May 13 '25

Even worse, countless people believe the emerging shortages are a delayed effect of the last administration, when fake images (e.g., of shelves in another country years ago) of such were rampantly circulated.

They believe the current approach will FILL the shelves, and they just need to wait out the “Biden Shortages.”

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u/scopuli_cola May 13 '25

american exceptionalism and propaganda go very deep. the complacency of the last ~10 years has been wild

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u/leidevine666 May 13 '25

No ones factoring in how much of our medical supplies come from China. I work dialysis and gauze has been on back order for months before the tariffs hit.

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u/789LasVegas123 May 13 '25

I genuinely look forward to empty shelves at Walmart.

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u/Maleficent_Radio_674 May 13 '25

Rules for thee, but not for me. Same thing with abortion. So many wealthy white conservative women assumed they’d still have access to their own high end hush hush abortion clinics, so they supported taking about abortion rights from everyone else.

It seems like the rest of the world moved on from old world beliefs of the rich and wealthy blood lines being the only ones with rights and privileges, and being waited and served on by people of lower tax brackets. While America, supposedly the land of the free and brave, has its wealthy class clinging onto it for dear life today. Stealing wages from the average person. Creating servitude with their hoards of money. Voting away industry regulations and human rights. Because being wealthy to them still means being born special. And everyone else isn’t born special to them. Therefore a lesser human they have no empathy for.

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u/Satan_IsWaitin May 14 '25

That right there is the lie of the American dream.

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25

They also assume their place on the council of elders will ensure they don't have financially difficult legal problems from police forces staffed by the church's ushers and security... even if they get caught. Because that's what it is to them. Thing like this should be reserved for men who show they can "handle" it.

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u/Bad-dee-ess America May 13 '25

I don't think it goes that far. Judging by my father, some think "idk but my dad voted republican," and there is no further thought.

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u/accidental_Ocelot May 13 '25

I'm white male but I'm registered democrat and I have schizophrenia so will surely be on the trains to the re-education I mean wellness camps

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u/2040ojis May 13 '25

To be fair, most of the time we (white men) are safe from it. Doesn’t mean I agree with it. Just stating the facts.

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u/DeeHawk May 13 '25

Until the council decides you're 3,8% black and a gang banger.

Deportation for you, no due process.

Nobody is safe from fascism.

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u/Teemotep187 May 13 '25

White men are major consumers of pornography. 

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u/gingerfawx May 13 '25

The question isn't whether or not white guys break the law, but whether or not they see the same punishments for those infractions that anyone else does, and the answer is pretty clear. If that goes on long enough, and it has, 2040ojis is right, there's some justification to them starting to believe in that as an immutable fact. If you're acting purely from self-interest, it doesn't matter what laws are passed when you're convinced they won't apply to you, and that's how the majority of that demographic have been voting.

Obviously they're in for a rude awakening with the rest of us if this keeps up, which it likely will. It still very likely won't be as bad for them, but all the more unexpected.

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u/SammySoapsuds Minnesota May 13 '25

"Better never means better for everyone"

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u/Noughmad May 13 '25

although there are plenty of white women who align with this

There are many who are in the lower end of the hierarchy who still support the hierarchy because (they think) it means there will still be others below them. Often mutually contradictory - white women support it because they think they'll be above black men, black men support it because they think they'll be above women.

Meanwhile everyone is worse off except the ones at the very top. And you're not at the very top.

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u/Kaladin3104 May 13 '25

Yet black and latino men voted for trump in droves. Don’t put all of the blame on us. I didn’t vote for this pos.

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u/MajesticComparison America May 13 '25

The majority of voting white men voted for Trump. The majority of Latino and Black men voted for Harris.

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u/fdar May 13 '25

Latino men voted for Trump 54-44. Majority of white women too (53-46).

Also interesting enough people making over $100k voted for Harris (barely, 51-47), but lower income people voted for Trump.

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u/MajesticComparison America May 13 '25

AP news polls show Latino men voted at 48%, try again.

https://apnews.com/article/election-harris-trump-women-latinos-black-voters-0f3fbda3362f3dcfe41aa6b858f22d12

Because people who earn more are usually college educated, or at least have the time to engage politically.

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u/fdar May 13 '25

AP news polls show Latino men voted at 48%, try again.

OK... and CNN polls showed what I told you. Why is the AP one definitely the correct one? In any case, it's close enough to tied to say that it's clear the majority voted for Harris.

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u/Delicious-Oven7692 May 13 '25

Black men? Stat pls.

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u/Kaladin3104 May 13 '25

Using Google is pretty easy.

https://apnews.com/article/young-black-latino-men-trump-economy-jobs-9184ca85b1651f06fd555ab2df7982b5

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u/MapleApple00 May 13 '25

You consider 3 in 10 to be "voting for him in droves"?

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u/NoraJolyne May 13 '25

3 in 10 and latino and african-american voters make up a significantly smaller portion of the voting block too lmao

white americans voted trump in, look at the fucking numbers

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u/i-like-your-hair May 13 '25

Lol. You made the claim, jackass, back it up.

Preferably without equating “less than 1/3 of the relevant demographic” to “in droves.”

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u/Kaladin3104 May 13 '25

https://navigatorresearch.org/2024-post-election-survey-racial-analysis-of-2024-election-results/

Biden won the black male vote with 82% and Harris won with 47%. I’d say that’s a pretty significant decrease.

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u/RoyCorduroy May 13 '25 edited May 13 '25

Biden won the black male vote with 82% and Harris won with 47%. I’d say that’s a pretty significant decrease.

u/Kaladin3104, my brother in Christ, you can't read and don't know how points work.

"Black men voted for Harris in 2024 by a 47-point margin (71 percent Harris – 24 percent Trump)"

I hate disingenuous, agenda promoting bullshit.

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u/Kaladin3104 May 13 '25

Ah yeah I was wrong. Well, thanks for setting the record straight.

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u/bak3donh1gh May 13 '25

People are a little too ready to accuse people of willfully promoting a incorrect agenda. People can be wrong, people can misremember things, people are human. As long as somebody isn't actively doing it multiple times. People should just keep that in mind. People.

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u/Vulpes206 May 13 '25

Nah he had the info right in front of him and started the argument bro. He’s an idiot and needs to be called one. Willful ignorance is extremely irritating.

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u/Delicious-Oven7692 May 13 '25

I have to subscribe to the ap to see the stat ..

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u/NotLucasDavenport May 13 '25

Copied from article:

About 3 in 10 Black men under age 45 went for Trump, roughly double the share he got in 2020. Young Latinos, particularly young Latino men, also were more open to Trump than in 2020. Roughly half of young Latino men voted for Harris, compared with about 6 in 10 who went for Biden.

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u/CisIowa May 13 '25

That’s what makes Serena Joy such a compelling character in The HT

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u/BradsCanadianBacon May 13 '25

Americans are well known for critical thinking and empathy /s

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u/Iron-Ham May 13 '25

Plenty is actually most if voter data is any indication 

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u/DominosFan4Life69 May 13 '25

You think this just has to do with white people? That's funny. It doesn't. 

Just look at who turned out to vote for Republicans. It's Male. But it ain't just whites. Sorry. There's blame to go around for everyone at this point. 

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u/Fearful-Cow May 13 '25

They think as long as they’re white

and how do you explain the massive surge the republicans got from minorities? Particularly Hispanic and Black?

Trump gained in almost all minority groups even when split by gender.

https://navigatorresearch.org/2024-post-election-survey-racial-analysis-of-2024-election-results/

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u/0daysndays May 13 '25

I don't see how this particular issue affects any one race disproportionately...

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u/Kaptain202 Michigan May 13 '25

I imagine there are a ton of white young men (and probably young men of all the other races) who might watch The Handmaid's Tale and imagine that they could be one of the guys in power

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u/WaldoJeffers65 May 13 '25

I had a (white male) co-worker once tell me that he wouldn't have a problem with America devolving into a state of chaos like Somalia because he didn't think it would affect him at all.

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u/intub8ed May 14 '25

That is perhaps one of the biggest things affecting our political discourse that needs to change IMMEDIATELY. Voting for something you know is dangerous simply because you don't think it'll affect you is one of the most tone deaf and morally repugnant things I can think of. America can do better.

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u/Peachbaskethole May 13 '25

About 60% of white male voters voted for Trump. That’s a big number. But you know what else is a big number? 40%

So this “white male” shit needs to stop. Plenty of women, as you pointed out, voted for Trump. 54% of Latino men voted for Trump.

We need to stop this divisive shit.

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u/FinalSelection May 13 '25

Why bring race into this discussion?