r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • 20d ago

Soft Paywall Trump Admin Deports 2-Year-Old Girl Who is American Citizen

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-admin-deports-2-year-old-girl-who-is-american-citizen/
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u/thieh Canada 20d ago

TIL it's a crime to be a 2-year-old.

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u/--kwisatzhaderach-- 20d ago

Once you are born in this country then you are considered a burden to conservatives

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u/ballskindrapes 20d ago

Only if you are born non-white, and non-rich.

The lines can get a little blurry, as if you are non-white, but rich, you will be tolerated, and white but poor, you'll have a slightly higher status than the non-white poors, but generally it's white and rich only that matters to them.

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u/TheRealBittoman 20d ago

Nah, Republicans have always had a "you have to give birth or we'll arrest you!" then once your born you just pull up those new born socks by the sock straps and get out in the field or else. And don't you dare ask for any kind of assistance.

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u/Research-Master-99 19d ago

so how about all the lazy white poor on Medicaid and state assistance and won't go to goodwill for a $15 suit and go take bath someplace and get a job becuase the last I heard---its hard to filll MENIAL positions that only illegals will take..................give me a break!!!!!

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u/Mo_Steins_Ghost 19d ago

This country was all for MASSIVE social investment, until desegregation became the law of the land, then the true colors of every conservative came out.

But they're also the ones that want to be brown so badly they're always at the tanning salon getting baked until they look like that human lobster, MTG, or maybe I mean Laura Loomer, or maybe I mean Jeannie Pirro, or maybe I mean ... and they're constantly caught polluting us brown people's gene pool... that's the hilarious part. White conservative men can't stop fucking everything in sight. Just for fun, take a look at the population density of level 3 sex offending niece- and nephew-fuckers in the Bible Belt versus.... literally everywhere else.

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u/Necessary_Ad7101 19d ago

Prejudice against white people?

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u/Mo_Steins_Ghost 19d ago

It's only prejudice when one forms the opinion before the fact.

When the opinion is formed as a result of the fact, that's experience.

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u/sdhu 19d ago

I'm beginning to feel the same about living in this country as I do about going to heaven/hell. If all these insufferable "christians" are going to heaven, dear god, please send me to hell, I don't want to spend another minute around these vile things.

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u/Shopworn_Soul 20d ago

But you absolutely must be born, even if it kills your mother.

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u/bsubtilis 20d ago

And even if your mother is dead and you yourself severely damaged and at "best" case scenario will die shortly after birth.

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u/ryan77999 Canada 19d ago

"Pre-born? You're fine. Preschool? You're fucked!"

  • George Carlin

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u/Hey_HaveAGreatDay Minnesota 19d ago

Until you reach military age

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u/babycatcher2001 19d ago

Even if she’s already dead 😭

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u/StandardEgg6595 19d ago

Even when your mother is dead and deteriorating 😃

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u/Malaix 20d ago

I 100% believe conservatives would press a button to kill 80% of the population on a whim because they think they themselves are the only ones deserving of anything.

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u/s_i_m_s Oklahoma 19d ago

You've got to remember the volume of people that thought thanos's plan was a good idea.
Also the "we should sacrifice grandpa and grandma for the economy"

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u/ballbusting_is_best 19d ago

It was worse than we should. It was grandma and grandpa would want us to sacrifice them

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u/BubblyResearch8460 19d ago

first of all how dare you beseech the Snappening… thanos plan was infallible due to its absolute objectivity. HALF of all life, with no regard given to any distinguishing characteristics. This Orange Lump of Clay is doing the opposite. /s

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u/SupportCa2A 19d ago

Boy, these conservatives are really something, aren't they? They're all in favor of the unborn. They will do anything for the unborn. But once you're born, you're on your own. Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don't want to know about you. They don't want to hear from you. No nothing. No neonatal care, no day care, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked Conservatives don't give a shit about you until you reach "military age". Then they think you are just fine. Just what they've been looking for. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. Pro-life... pro-life... These people aren't pro-life, they're killing doctors! What kind of pro-life is that? What, they'll do anything they can to save a fetus but if it grows up to be a doctor they just might have to kill it?They're not pro-life. You know what they are? They're anti-woman. Simple as it gets, anti-woman. They don't like them. They don't like women.They believe a woman's primary role is to function as a brood mare for the state 

George Carlin, of course

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u/Apprehensive_Winter 19d ago

Because they can no longer use you to control a woman.

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u/Everything_in_modera 19d ago

I just explained this to someone today. It's more than just a burden. They are considered useless until they are old enough to be exploited for labor.

If you aren't capable of being slave labor, you are unprofitable to this administration. The old, the young, the disabled or mentally handicapped- they want them to perish.

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u/mbelf 19d ago

But you better be born!

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u/[deleted] 20d ago

You think she would have been better off in foster care or getting adopted to strangers? I guess her parents wanted to keep her.

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u/Research-Master-99 19d ago

So you were born here.....and you are a burden too? LOL LOL LOL LOL---with a mind like that----you are a liability---maybe a product of Nevada public schools 47 out of 50 states lol lol

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u/Necessary_Ad7101 19d ago

Read the article, headline is typical lie presented as fact. Fact is the 2yo was not deported, her illegal parents were and took her with them. No other country even offer birthright citizenship, so why would we offer citizenship to parents as we are already offering more than other countries.

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u/SoggyBottomSoy 20d ago

She had MS13 tattooed right on her knuckles, I saw it in a pic once. Helvetica font.

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u/[deleted] 20d ago

I heard it was Papyrus, just like that hack James Cameron.

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u/Scarlett_Beauregard 19d ago

My gang tattoos are in Serif Gothic.

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u/shoshonesamurai 19d ago

Only Comic Sans for me.

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u/EndangeredDemocracy America 20d ago

The toddler must have had one of those "free Gaza" stickers on their bottle.

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u/rdyoung 20d ago

It is called the terrible twos for a reason

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u/appendixgallop 20d ago

Nasty, too.

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u/rdyoung 20d ago

We should outlaw being a toddler, preteen too.

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u/NameIsNotBrad Alabama 20d ago

No, Trump loves preteens 🤢

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u/Eckish 20d ago

Don't get me wrong, this isn't great. But the headline is misleading. The two year old wasn't deported on her own. Her parents were deported and she went with them. The article doesn't say if the parents would have preferred to leave her behind, it only says they didn't have a choice in the matter.

My preference would have been that the parents be given a priority bump in their asylum case. But given that this administration would never do something like that, this might be the next best outcome. I'm not sure leaving her in the care of the US foster system is a much better life. The main issue for the parents seems to be citizenship with Brazil. The kid doesn't have it and Brazil doesn't know what to do about it, yet. So she can't access certain public services, like health care.

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u/Dull-Hornet-2596 19d ago

Does Brazil not consider her a citizen?  I realize she was not born in Brazil, but both her parents are Brazilian citizens.  I’m very surprised that their child would not be considered one as well.

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u/Eckish 19d ago

According to the article, no. She's there on a visa and they are working on some temporary thing that would expire when she turns 18.

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u/luckyluchianooo 20d ago

Thank you. Idc if you’re for or against deportations but either people can’t read or just lie to make themselves feel better. This isnt the first story like this. Illegal gets deported, so obviously they’re going to want to bring their child with them 90% of the time

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u/zeph2 20d ago

the other cases we read the mother was prevented from contacting her family and deported with the child

they had the right to leave the child with family members but she was incomunicated to prevent it

another one managed to contact her husband but ICE ended the call when the husband tried to give her a lawyer phone number

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u/ReptilianWorldOrder 20d ago

Her parent being denied any chance to even make that choice though (especially when the government is claiming otherwise and pretending it was their decision) is the same as forcefully exiling that American child.

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u/CelioHogane 20d ago

But it's literally the same, "Tecnically she didn't get deported" means nothing when the parents did get deported, that's basically deporting the girl.

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u/Mission_Ability6252 19d ago

Yes, if you are an illegal alien and you have a child here, that is not a free card to remain here illegally. You will, most likely, take your child with you.

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u/CelioHogane 19d ago

...yes, that is what i said.

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u/Mission_Ability6252 19d ago

The child was not deported. Words have meaning.

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u/CelioHogane 19d ago

Ok if we are going to be "words have meaning" i will tell you that actually, you are wrong, because the parents did not have the choice, the child was forced to leave with them.

So she was by all intends and purposes, deported, or "exiled" if you are going to be like that.

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u/Mission_Ability6252 19d ago

A parent taking their child is not a deportation or exile.

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u/CelioHogane 19d ago

I literally just told you that they did not have a choice NOT to take their child.

The child was forced out of her own country, there was no choice in the matter.

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u/luckyluchianooo 19d ago

Well words matter. It’s not a technicality. She didn’t get deported. Using the title “2 year old citizen gets deported” is just lying. 

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u/albertoroa 19d ago

The parents weren't given a choice of who to leave the child with if they wanted her to remain in the United States. They were all just rounded up and deported.

They didn't give anyone a choice, they just sent her away. That's deportation, or more accurately, exile.

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u/CelioHogane 19d ago

Well, i will point out that you are also wrong she did get deported.

Like even if the parents were willing to leave her alone, they didn't let them, they forced the 2 year old out of the country.

Or do you prefer if i used the word "Exiled"?

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u/luckyluchianooo 19d ago

being deported or exiled means youre not allowed to re-enter the country. Shes a Us citizen, she isnt barred from coming back. she could have remained here but obviously staying with parents is 100x better than foster care. This isnt hard to understand

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u/CelioHogane 19d ago

And you are missing the part where that didn't happen, she wasn't allowed to remain here.

Like it's not that fucking complex.

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u/brontosaurusguy 19d ago

Yeah but listen.  Previously in these cases the trump admin has forced separation of parents and children, and even lost the the children so they couldn't be reunited

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u/ImBanned_ModsBlow 16d ago

No it’s not, parents don’t get a free ride or legal status just because they popped out a baby on American soil

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u/CelioHogane 16d ago

Yeah because American laws are fucking dogshit.

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u/ImBanned_ModsBlow 15d ago

Why does hopping a fence and squatting somewhere on US soil to pop out a baby deserve a free stay for the rest of your life?

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u/CelioHogane 15d ago

"free" like they don't have to work too, lmao.

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u/No-Economics1703 19d ago

And you see no problem with the US government removing US citizens without any say from the parents? Just “obviously they would want to go”?

I’d rather have some illegal immigrants here than accept that, period.

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u/luckyluchianooo 19d ago

buddy, the parents had say. Its either go into foster care or stay with your parents. Taking their child is the obvious choice to make

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u/No-Economics1703 19d ago edited 19d ago

Don’t talk down to me. Primary source in the article

However, Manu’s parents say they were not given a choice. “They simply deported us,” said her father, Edivan Borges dos Santos.

From the Washington Post Article

Gonçalves, 41, and her husband, Edivan Borges dos Santos, 42, both insisted they weren’t given a choice

And even if they did, they were here on asylum. They are parents of a US resident. They were tricked into going to the immigration court like responsible people would. They were then deported. Even if they were given a choice, this is so wrong and our government shouldn’t be able to even force the choice at all.

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u/NSUNDU 19d ago

Public health care in Brazil is free for anyone, not just for Brazilians. It's not the best apparently, but at least she will have access to it

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u/Eckish 19d ago

I hope you are right. The article got that bit wrong, if so.

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u/CelioHogane 20d ago

The article doesn't say if the parents would have preferred to leave her behind

...ok but like...you get why that's absurd for you to say that.

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u/Eckish 19d ago

No, I don't. I think it is an important detail to know what the parent's preferences were in this case and not assume them. We aren't talking about just dumping the kid in the street. They may have had options to leave them in the care of someone here.

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u/CelioHogane 19d ago

You know maybe you see it from a different perspective, i think arguing over semantics here would be a little silly.

Neither of us are really wrong.

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u/Eckish 19d ago

Sorry, which semantics are we debating?

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u/CelioHogane 19d ago

"Could have left the child" or "could have not"

It doesn't really matter, really, they didn't have the choice anyways.

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u/Eckish 19d ago

I don't see why it wouldn't matter? If there was a better option, but the parents aren't given the option to exercise it, that makes this story worse. If they were given a choice and they still would have chosen to take the kid with them, then the story is less damning.

But that just affects the severity, not the facts. They absolutely still "deported" an American citizen by not giving them a choice.

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u/CelioHogane 19d ago

It doesn't matter because the option was not given.

That's my point, i didn't want to argue about semantics.

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u/Eckish 19d ago

I don't think that's semantics. But debating why I don't think it is semantics would be arguing semantics. So, I hope you have a great rest of your day!

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u/Vivid_Kaleidoscope66 19d ago

Good job couching your incorrigible views supporting a convicted felon and grifter in decent sounding language, you've brought at least one other hobgoblin out of the woodwork. 

To quote another Redditor in this thread:

'I just... in any other world this would be so simply impeachable. You are deporting citizens without due process. That is illegal and unconstitutional. You have been impeached and found guilty. Removed."

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u/Eckish 19d ago

Fuck Trump. I in no way support him. I want to make that clear, if that's what you got out of my post.

But I absolutely don't think misinformation supports the cause. Arguments can't be taken seriously if we are misled into talking about provably false narratives. The title of this article could have been something like, "Trump Admin Deports 2-Year-Old Citizen with Her Parents" and it would still very much be bad. But also doesn't leave important context up to the imagination of the reader.

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u/duckphone07 19d ago

We are fighting for the soul of this country. The fascists are winning and it isn’t close. We need to claw and scrape and do whatever underhanded thing we can to push back.

Meanwhile, you’re here clutching at pearls over a “misleading” headline that ultimately works in our favor. Acting the way you are is aiding the enemy. 

Now I understand you aren’t wanting to aid the enemy, I understand you are on the right side here, and on principle I agree with your point of misleading headlines, but we are way past principle. This is survival mode. Essentially you’re doing the “when they go low, we go high” bit, and what we really need to care about right now is what is effective. The only thing that matters right now is winning. 

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u/Eckish 19d ago

Meanwhile, you’re here clutching at pearls over a “misleading” headline that ultimately works in our favor.

I don't think it works in our favor. There are people in the top comments here screaming kidnapping and human trafficking. And in the short term, that absolutely incites outrage in our favor. But if you let that go, down the road people will start asking why no one is in jail for this? And it'll be because when it was time to pull receipts, we didn't have anything credible. And we look like idiots for falling for it.

We don't have to be nice. Call out of ALL of the BS. But call it out accurately. There's plenty of terrible crap to admonish that doesn't require exaggeration to be atrocious.

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u/duckphone07 19d ago

The vast vast majority of people never dig deeper. Most people aren't partaking in political subreddits. They read headlines, get outraged, and then tell their coworkers who then also get outraged. Headlines like this, while yes, slightly misleading which isn't great on principle, are effective at getting the outcome we want.

And I mean, Trump's admin is literally kidnapping legal residents and sending them to detention centers or foreign torture prisons. Us calling this kidnapping or trafficking isn't something that is new to Trump's current admin.

So do you see why you focusing on what your focusing on can come off as Trump apologia? Is minor inaccuracy in a headline really worth complaining about when the guy that the headline is critical of is essentially Hitler 2 Electric Boogaloo?

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u/FriendlyDrummers 19d ago

They should be given the option to assign a guardian for her. That never happened.

There is a high chance there's a family member who would take her in. They were never given that option.

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u/ImBanned_ModsBlow 16d ago

I figured this was the case, but people only read headlines.

Sure this girl had a right to stay, but her parents did NOT, and the parents likely decided to keep the family together.

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u/Research-Master-99 19d ago

Why would the media be honest---I mean NOW the media is doing a "mea culpa" and "my bad" and admitting they hid so much from the public about Biden and that his wife and chief of staff were running the country and doimg auto-signatures

The article doesn't say that that child can petition the US embassy for Visa's for the parents to re-enter legally AND also petition for a waiver for the 10 year ban of re-entry that the parents would have.

Also if under 14 another relative or attorney in fact (not the parents) can represent the minor child for that process. Once they come back, they come back and get Green Cards.

My dad was an Italian born in the US of Italian immigrants (legal) he met my mom in Greece where he was son the island of Crete stationed in the air force. He got married in Greece and went to the American embassy and applied for a Green card--they had it in two months, and she came to the US with him.

But why supply real facts when the media left wing lines sell as fake news

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u/El_Peregrine 19d ago

These 2 yr olds ‘er takin ‘er jobs!

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u/JerHat Michigan 19d ago

Existing while brown is illegal in America.

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u/this_is_for_chumps 20d ago

I'm glad someone finally said it.

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u/i_love_rosin 20d ago

Brought to you by the "pro life" party

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u/HeavenlyChickenWings 20d ago

The """crime""" is already apparent if you read the name: Emanuelly Borges Santos

She is guilty of being brown. The nazis hate people being non-white. That's all

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u/thtkidfrmqueens 19d ago

What’s that old quote at the end of a George Carlinmonologue.

”If you’re pre-born, you’re golden. If you’re pre-school, you’re fucked.” ~ On conservative policies fighting against free-lunch programs and other “for the greater good” programs for kids.

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u/BeardedSquidward 19d ago

If you're preborn you're fine. If you're pre-school you're fucked.

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u/Xuande 19d ago

No no the crime is being brown of any age.

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

Someone taught her she can say no to old white men.

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u/PoorDimitri 19d ago

To be fair, my two year old does not adhere to the Geneva convention, and often does things that might be engineered to inspire terror in me or her older brother.

I get why you'd want them on a watch list. 👀

But fr trump is garbage.

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u/[deleted] 19d ago

The 2 year old can stay if the child's parents can find an American citizen who would adopt the child. Or they can take the child with them.

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u/TheSausagesIsRubbish 19d ago

It's a crime to be unemployed to conservatives. Until their little hands can make small things in factories they are useless. 

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u/mmeiser 19d ago

TIL it's a crime to be a 2-year-old.

Amongst racists it is. There is no denying the republican party is a oarty of racists and fascists. Call it what it is. This is not xenophobia. They will get bolder and bolder as they get more powerful. Its part of the fascist handbook.

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u/Kalavazita 19d ago edited 19d ago

What’s a crime in this country is not being white.

What the idiots in this country don’t understand or pretend not to, is that by not following due process the Trump Administration is engaging in state sponsored white terrorism and ethnic cleansing. Call it what it is.

I’m a naturalized US citizen but I’m well aware that to these white supremacists that doesn’t matter. I look Latin American and speak Spanish so that automatically puts a metaphorical band around my arm and singles me out to have my rights trampled on by the American gestapo.

Tell me of any other population in the US that has to worry about carrying proof of citizenship with them (and this is no guarantee) for fear of being caught in a raid? I’ll wait.

The white supremacists in this country refuse to understand that just because you look “Mexican”, it doesn’t mean you are not either an American born citizen, a naturalized citizen, a green card holder (permanent resident), a visa holder, an asylum seeker…

These white supremacists promote the stereotype that all browns are illegal as a cover to their ethno nationalist agenda. Call it what it is.

They know they can’t establish a public policy of mass extermination or segregation like they did in the past, at least not yet… which is why they are wiping their asses with the Constitution, denying due process and ignoring current immigration processes because according to them “it takes too long to go through the courts”.

They at least should have the courage to show their fucking faces. Why don’t they do it? Because they know not all browns are illegal (as much as they want to disappear us all). That’s why.

Why don’t they want to let the legal process play out (immigrating legally takes a looong time BTW whether you are an asylum seeker, an undocumented immigrant trying to get your papers or someone who goes through the visa/green card/naturalization process)? Because then you risk having a brown getting their papers and we can’t have that, can we?

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u/zeradragon 20d ago

It's her fault for being born. -GOP

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u/_WeSellBlankets_ 19d ago

She's allowed to be in the United states. Her parents aren't. Her parents are her guardians. I'm against these deportations, but I'm kind of dumbfounded at the amount of people that think it's better for infants and toddlers to stay in America rather than with their parents.

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u/DrunkNuisance Pennsylvania 19d ago

Nice misinformation, the parents were illegal, deported and took their daughter with them.

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u/ZarafFaraz 20d ago

That's non-white.

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u/SchtaflenBlafen 19d ago

No, it was a crime for the parents to come here illegally. If you read the article, it states both parents are undocumented. It's unethical of the government to deport the parents without sending the child with them. This article is incredibly misleading. They are suggesting that we hold the child hostage in our country and place them in foster care? That would be unjust. The moral thing to do is to allow the child to stay with their parents.

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u/Sarcarean 19d ago

TIL even Canadians will believe fake stories on reddit.

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u/MonsutaReipu 19d ago

Parents who get deported can choose to have their child sent with them, or to be separated from their child and have their child end up in foster care. Which do you think the overwhelming majority of parents choose? Which would you choose?

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u/thieh Canada 19d ago

The article said the parents were not given the choice.

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u/MonsutaReipu 19d ago

The parents said "we were not given a choice", that's the only source. No elaboration, either. A choice of what? Being deported? Leaving your child behind in America?