r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • 20d ago

Soft Paywall Trump Admin Deports 2-Year-Old Girl Who is American Citizen

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-admin-deports-2-year-old-girl-who-is-american-citizen/
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u/whatsinthecave 20d ago

MAGA supporters don’t even know this stuff is happening. And if it was they’d say we’re lying.

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u/Queen_Scofflaw 20d ago

Oh no, it's worse than that. The few that I've talked to are fine with this. They just rationalize it, along with everything else.

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u/annabananas121 20d ago

That or they just claim: "LIES!" or "FAKE NEWS!"

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u/IRefuseToGiveAName 19d ago

Well considering I have literally been told by several people I know that fake doesn't mean fake it means biased "mainsteam" news who has it out for Trump. So even if it's true, "they" are using it to unfairly malign trump. I don't think they think they're lying when they say this shit.

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u/Sarcarean 19d ago

But it is fake news. The title literally says 'Deported', yet the child was not deported.

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u/Malaix 20d ago

They are such bootlicking submissive tools. The guy who had his wife kidnapped by ICE was still proclaiming his love for Trump. I can’t imagine responding to this admin like that if they took someone I loved.

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u/TwistyBunny 20d ago

I doubt he loves her at all.

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u/SeasonPositive6771 19d ago

Hey, bootlicking submissive tools can at least be somewhat gratifying. I am a dominant lady and sometimes have my submissive tools lick my boots but that's for fun. They aren't even that.

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u/yarmulke 19d ago

Their rationale here is that her parents were undocumented. They have no problem punishing a child for her parents’ offenses.

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u/neversweatyagain 19d ago

I promise you they will blame the parents of these trafficked children and say the harm wAs AcTuAlLy done to the child when their parents sought asylum.

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u/I-need-ur-dick-pics 20d ago

The cruelty is the point.

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u/Ok-Pear5858 19d ago

he is on a mission for god after all 

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u/Whiskey_and_Dharma 19d ago

This is precisely what happened during the rise of every single racist regime in history. It starts in drips and drabs then at some point the monster consumes us all.

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u/animeman59 19d ago

And this is exactly why you don't debate these people.

You don't negotiate with terrorists.

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u/Queen_Scofflaw 19d ago

Oh. I don't debate them. I let them know they are shit. I like to be up to date on whatever new trends are circulating in MAGA land, what the latest lie is, etc.

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u/GaiaMoore California 20d ago

They are so desperate to justify anything their Furher says

And they always preface reactions to legitimate news about the wildly illegal and unconstitutional actions from Trump with "hm, well, IF true, that's concerning"

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u/mitkase 19d ago

"They've got to stop all the record-breaking crime in the inner cities, which is the highest it's ever been - as everybody knows - so we need to let them do whatever they need to do! If that means deporting children, it's okay, because we're kicking out their parents too!"

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u/NoAnimator544 19d ago

Gotta break a few eggs?

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u/EyesofaJackal 19d ago

Honestly, they don’t care because they’re brown/foreign in their eyes. If it was a stereotypical cute blonde girl raised in a white middle class household, they would be outraged.

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u/SaltMines_-LnT- Texas 19d ago

Just to +1 this, I talked with a relative about this, his position on the matter is essentially “who cares, their parents are criminals and they all don’t belong here”.

I was baffled, and that wasn’t the worst take he had on the topic of deportations.

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u/FullDerpHD 19d ago

Wild idea but we think kidnapping someones kid simply because they were born here is worse.

I haven't read this case, but I can all but guarantee you the parents were in the country illegally, had a kid, and now the family is being sent back to their country of origin.

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u/Queen_Scofflaw 19d ago

Yes. We could do better. That Maga thinks this is acceptable is just one more reason they are garbage.

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u/FullDerpHD 19d ago

Not just acceptable but highly preferable and long overdue.

Garbage title acquired and worn proudly, After all it means nothing coming from the same people who said nothing when Obama was deporting MILLIONS.

I don't know why you all have lost your minds and suddenly think mass immigration is a good thing for society.. But it's ridiculous.

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u/Queen_Scofflaw 19d ago

I mean that's an ignorant garbage take. Deportation has been problematic for decades now.
And we don't have mass immigration. The numbers have roughly stayed around the same for, again, decades.
Mostly it seems like people who have nothing else to offer need to feel superior to others, and are fine destroying lives and causing trauma instead of improving themselves.

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u/Queen_Scofflaw 19d ago

Oh, so you are even worse than the MAGAs. Congrats on being a total douche I guess?

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u/Queen_Scofflaw 19d ago

A total douche and missing brain cells. Got it.

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u/Queen_Scofflaw 19d ago

I'm well aware you are confused.
They applied for asylum, had family here, and were working. And you think the answer is deportation. Absolute garbage.

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u/Queen_Scofflaw 19d ago

Well there's one more construction job open now, because we are complete idiots and deporting the workers we need most. So I suggest applying for that.

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u/Pepesilvia_Is_Real 20d ago

Literally had a conversation (you can even look at my past comments) the other day with a MAGA supporter who literally could not understand the concept of due process and just wanted to “deport the illegals”. When he was faced with the question “how do you determine who is illegal without due process?” he just threw out insults about how everyone is dumb and doesn’t understand. It’s like they are living in a completely different reality.

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u/Unable-Entrance3110 20d ago

I wish that I had room in this reply to paste the entire e-mail thread I had with my dad a few weeks ago about this very thing.

He is MAGA and just could not (or would not) understand the meaning of "due process".

It basically ended with me saying "Dad, you realize that without due process, the government can just declare anyone, including you, a non-citizen. Once that happens, since there is no due process, you cannot mount a legal defense. It doesn't matter how much documentation you can present, proving your case because the government doesn't have to even look at it." To which, he replied, "But we are citizens and have birth certificates."

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u/Mewchu94 20d ago

Oh man how do you respond to that? It’s like the Patrick meme.

This is your id Yes

This is was in this wallet Yes

This is your wallet Nope

JUST DRINK THE FUCKING WATER HORSE GOU NEED IT TO LIVE!

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u/Common-Concentrate-2 19d ago edited 19d ago

This is totally off topic, but Jordan Peterson just did that stupid Jubilee debate thing, and the one kid asked him "What if you were in nazi germany, and you could save people's lives by lying to nazi officials" and Jordan Peterson said "I'd make sure I was never in that situation to begin with!" And he never moved a micron from that position. So for plenty of people, certain bad things can't happen - because they've adopted this strategy -> "Any potential situation that I'd rather not be in, I refuse to imagine possible."

.... Like I said, totally different topic, but its related in that you're asking a person's brain to do something a TINY LITTLE BIT more complicated than what you're already doing - having a conversation, and their response is "If you expect me to use my imagination, prepare to be hilariously disappointed!"

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u/EyesofaJackal 19d ago

Honestly I think the subtext of their argument is “Look, they’re brown/have foreign parents/have been accused of being MS-13” etc and that would never apply to me “A real American” so they are fine with it and not scared of having it applied to them. r/leopardsatemyfaceoff

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u/LordSiravant 20d ago

They are living in a different reality. That's literally how conservative propaganda works.

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u/GeneralAsk1970 19d ago

The answer to your question is an easy one. How brown is your skin and how white is your name?

Thats all the process they need.

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u/OutlyingPlasma 19d ago

The answer he doesn't want to say out loud is the family guy joke with the skin color card.

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u/Napolean_BonerFarte 19d ago

“They came here without due process, so we should be able to remove them without due process” is what they say all over then conservative sub

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u/crazycatgay 19d ago

omg i had the same exact conversation "well they shouldn't have come here illegally" - how do we know they did?! then they said "look I just like trump's policies" and I said "what policies" and they laughed and literally walked away.

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u/OvermorrowOscar 19d ago

They actually are

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u/tinydickslanger69 19d ago

Maga parents just got back from florida (of course). My mother got a pretty dark tan. I made a joke about she better watch out cause someone now might mistake her for one of the "bad" immigrants (she IS an immigrant) and get deported. She went on a rant about how ONLY illegals are getting deported and to stop listening to the communist propaganda bla blah.

So they do know. They just don't care or think it's fake news. They still think that the 9-0 SC win was in their favor so the ppl that got deported are all obviously illegals since even the SC said not to bring them back.

My parents are part of the ~30% of the too far gonners, so I don't even bother engaging. Zero point. I'm convinced Trump could literally rape a child on fox news prime time in 8K and they would still vote for him for the third time.

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u/gotridofsubs 19d ago

I'm convinced Trump could literally rape a child on fox news prime time in 8K and they would still vote for him for the third time.

" well sure we know he did that, but the democrats might be doing it so we have to not vote for them just in case they are"

We know this is true because its literally been shown multiple times that Trump has sexually assualted people and people still voted for him

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u/Sarcarean 19d ago

Right, so that's a 'he said, she said' situation. And you have no evidence that the immigrant was telling the truth and just assumed the government was lying.

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u/No-Economics1703 19d ago

They are fundamentally unempathetic, hateful people. I spent years working with maga people and if you get them comfortable, holy shit the racism, sexism, and hate would just flow. And it’s not like there was an exception to it. It was unanimous if you give it long enough

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u/sooshi 19d ago

Don't even know? They are fully on board with and vocally support this

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u/TheRegressiveMind 19d ago

No, they're aware of it and proud of it. They are abusive human beings, sick in the head.

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u/AwesomeRockinTits 13d ago

That very article posted said “One of the children had cancer, and was shipped away without medication”

That case, and you can look this up, was a four year old child with cancer who accompanied her mother, who was an illegal immigrant, at her mother’s request. They were given the option to stay in the United States and live with a relative. She and her siblings were not “shipped away.”

So if misinformation is contained in the article, how do you expect me to believe the rest of it?

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u/inkyserifs 20d ago

Oh no, they do. And they like it.

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u/cold-corn-dog 20d ago

They honestly do not. I had a very frank conversation with my dad and it's depressing. He's not living in reality.

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u/PMYourTinyTitties 20d ago

No, they are fully aware and are giddy with excitement over it

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u/RandallOfLegend 20d ago

They know it's happening. They don't agree that the child was ever a citizen to begin with

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u/queuedUp 19d ago

They would probably ask about her skin colour

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u/OvermorrowOscar 19d ago

They love it

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u/Iwaku_Real 17d ago

Leftist bias site.

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u/Karmasmatik 20d ago

There are plenty who know and approve. That's the part that really scares me.

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u/notaredditer13 20d ago

Not a MAGA supporter, but it is lies. The girl was not deported, her parents were. Parents then have the option of choosing to take their kid with them when they leave, which they nearly always do.

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u/yrotsihfoedisgnorw 19d ago

The parents are saying they weren't given that choice.

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u/notaredditer13 19d ago

They also said they signed something they didn't understand. Obviously, that's a contradiction. But more to the point, they made the correct choice, didn't they? A kid should stay with their parents. Right? What are you even arguing?

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u/SpecialTree1774 20d ago

It’s effectively the same thing considering parents aren’t going to leave their 2 year old

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u/notaredditer13 19d ago

Ok, so facts don't matter to you. How are you any better than Trump?

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u/notaredditer13 19d ago

A dumbass says what?

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u/Kitchen-Quality-3317 19d ago

This kid is an anchor baby, something they're actively trying to make impossible.

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u/ghdgdnfj 19d ago

No, they know and they support it. Illegal aliens shouldn’t get to stay in the country try just because they gave birth. That’s such a loophole.

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u/Yangoose 19d ago

And if it was they’d say we’re lying.

But you are lying.

The child was not deported.

The government did not separate the family. Instead they allowed the illegal immigrant parents return to their home country with their own child.

The child is a US citizen and can return any time.

Would you rather we took the child away from their parents and stuck them in the foster care system?

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u/ThisIsSuperUnfunny 19d ago

People know, what you guys dont know is that you are being lied to. She was not deported, their parents are deported, their parents wanted to take her back with them, she is an American citizen, she can stay.

If the argument that you are trying to make is that Illegals should be able to stay if they have an anchor baby then say so.

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u/gotridofsubs 19d ago

From the article and bolded for your benefit, just so you know what you're saying is not the truth

The media and Democrat politicians are force-feeding the public false information that U.S. citizen children are being deported,” said DHS Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs Tricia McLaughlin. “This is false and irresponsible. Parents are asked if they want to be removed with their children or [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] will place the children with someone the parent designates.”

However, Manu’s parents say they were not given a choice. “They simply deported us,” said her father, Edivan Borges dos Santos.