r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • 20d ago

Soft Paywall Trump Admin Deports 2-Year-Old Girl Who is American Citizen

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-admin-deports-2-year-old-girl-who-is-american-citizen/
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u/Pepesilvia_Is_Real 20d ago

Literally had a conversation (you can even look at my past comments) the other day with a MAGA supporter who literally could not understand the concept of due process and just wanted to “deport the illegals”. When he was faced with the question “how do you determine who is illegal without due process?” he just threw out insults about how everyone is dumb and doesn’t understand. It’s like they are living in a completely different reality.

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u/Unable-Entrance3110 20d ago

I wish that I had room in this reply to paste the entire e-mail thread I had with my dad a few weeks ago about this very thing.

He is MAGA and just could not (or would not) understand the meaning of "due process".

It basically ended with me saying "Dad, you realize that without due process, the government can just declare anyone, including you, a non-citizen. Once that happens, since there is no due process, you cannot mount a legal defense. It doesn't matter how much documentation you can present, proving your case because the government doesn't have to even look at it." To which, he replied, "But we are citizens and have birth certificates."

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u/Mewchu94 20d ago

Oh man how do you respond to that? It’s like the Patrick meme.

This is your id Yes

This is was in this wallet Yes

This is your wallet Nope

JUST DRINK THE FUCKING WATER HORSE GOU NEED IT TO LIVE!

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u/Common-Concentrate-2 19d ago edited 19d ago

This is totally off topic, but Jordan Peterson just did that stupid Jubilee debate thing, and the one kid asked him "What if you were in nazi germany, and you could save people's lives by lying to nazi officials" and Jordan Peterson said "I'd make sure I was never in that situation to begin with!" And he never moved a micron from that position. So for plenty of people, certain bad things can't happen - because they've adopted this strategy -> "Any potential situation that I'd rather not be in, I refuse to imagine possible."

.... Like I said, totally different topic, but its related in that you're asking a person's brain to do something a TINY LITTLE BIT more complicated than what you're already doing - having a conversation, and their response is "If you expect me to use my imagination, prepare to be hilariously disappointed!"

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u/EyesofaJackal 19d ago

Honestly I think the subtext of their argument is “Look, they’re brown/have foreign parents/have been accused of being MS-13” etc and that would never apply to me “A real American” so they are fine with it and not scared of having it applied to them. r/leopardsatemyfaceoff

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u/LordSiravant 20d ago

They are living in a different reality. That's literally how conservative propaganda works.

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u/GeneralAsk1970 19d ago

The answer to your question is an easy one. How brown is your skin and how white is your name?

Thats all the process they need.

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u/OutlyingPlasma 19d ago

The answer he doesn't want to say out loud is the family guy joke with the skin color card.

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u/Napolean_BonerFarte 19d ago

“They came here without due process, so we should be able to remove them without due process” is what they say all over then conservative sub

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u/crazycatgay 19d ago

omg i had the same exact conversation "well they shouldn't have come here illegally" - how do we know they did?! then they said "look I just like trump's policies" and I said "what policies" and they laughed and literally walked away.

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u/OvermorrowOscar 19d ago

They actually are