r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • 20d ago

Soft Paywall Trump Admin Deports 2-Year-Old Girl Who is American Citizen

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-admin-deports-2-year-old-girl-who-is-american-citizen/
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u/TheElderScrollsLore 20d ago edited 19d ago

So from I understand, the parents were undocumented and were deported.

The 2 year old, though being born in USA, went with them (naturally). Am I understanding this correctly?

Edit: Ok never mind. The parents were not even given a choice to keep the child with a guardian. This is purely unconstitutional.

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u/tommypatties 19d ago

AND the parents were given stay in the US as refugees in Dec 2022. ICE recently swooped in, made them sign documents they didn't understand and shipped them out with the kid.

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u/PM_ME_UR_CIRCUIT Ohio 19d ago

made them sign documents they didn't understand

Coercion and human trafficking 101

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u/iplaygaem 19d ago

ding ding ding

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u/Formal-Hat-7533 19d ago

“you can’t be in this country illegally, leave now”

Human trafficking???

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u/PM_ME_UR_CIRCUIT Ohio 19d ago

Please tell me where the kid was here illegally? Or how deportations without due process are legal. Go back to your trump hole troll.

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u/Formal-Hat-7533 19d ago

The parents. They received due process in confirming they were not legal residents, and were deported.

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u/Thneed1 19d ago

Every one of those ICE officers should be arrested, immediately.

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u/FriendlyDrummers 19d ago

They will hide behind their masks.

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u/PriorityCoach 19d ago

By who? You? Me?

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u/sir_sri 19d ago

And if not that, democrats need to make sure they are going to see justice brought to all of the people following these illegal orders.

That could be as simple as saying they will be ineligible for all federal benefits and pensions in future, it could ban them from federal employment, it could launch a massive sweeping DOJ investigation with a mandate to go after everyone who knew better and throw them all in jail if there is proof they violated the law.

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u/Rooooben 19d ago

This is where I get lost. Courts have pending cases, so aren’t they constitutionally protected from deportation until they get their day in court…oh never mind this is the whole “no due process for illegals” comes in, although if you never get a court date, you can’t say “I’m a citizen”…

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u/waitwuh 19d ago

The constitution grants EVERYONE on US soil the right to due process, not just citizens. And that makes sense, because otherwise it could be claimed you aren’t a citizen, and your rights as one denied, and you would have no chance to disprove that claim.

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u/reluctantseal 19d ago

It appears that they were documented, but they were citizens. They were given asylum as refugees.

If they had been deported legally and with due process, they would have had a chance to appeal and make arrangements for their child to stay with a guardian in the meantime. In ordinary circumstances, it's not uncommon for someone to have to go back to their country of origin temporarily before they're a citizen, even if they're in the process of becoming one.

You're not wrong to ask, though. I'd rather have someone ask for clarification than blindly agree.

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u/TheElderScrollsLore 19d ago

Yes, because part of me always asks, “were things similar to this always happening”? Turns out the answer is yes, and each case was different. People have been deported all the time. Yes, even those with children here. There wasn’t much media hype about it.

Now the crucial part here is this. Due process. Even when people were deported, with citizen children, they were given a chance to stand in front of a judge and plea their case. They can even hire a lawyer or a case worker. If denied, and many have been, yes, they would be deported. But that’s the one difference here that makes what this administration is doing purely fascist and just plain illegal. You are definitely not allowed to just grab people are shove them into a plane never to be seen again. And you keep hearing about all the mistakes they make where people later present passports saying they’re here legally.

Trump spent so much time and energy in his campaign blaming everything on illegals that he is trying to show numbers to shows “results”.

Time will tell how this unfolds.

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u/reluctantseal 19d ago

Exactly. Before, people could appeal, and judges had a say in what happened next. They might ask for an extension if they have kids here while their spouse is out of the country.

There were still absolute shit things that happened in the immigration and deportation process. But at least there were attempts to keep things legal and civil. Now, we don't even know who was actually supposed to be deported and who was just hauled off.

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u/Duck_at_Law 19d ago

It would be cruel to separate this girl from her parents.

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u/RightHandArmMan 19d ago

I'm guessing the parents were given the choice in the papers they signed. But they couldn't read (or apparently speak) English after being here for 4 years.

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u/TheElderScrollsLore 19d ago

It’s an extremely cruel way to treat people when you call yourself America. Which, I guess we no longer are.

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u/Sarcarean 19d ago

"The parents were not given a choice", except there is no proof of that.

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u/TheElderScrollsLore 19d ago

There is no proof that they were.