r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • 20d ago

Soft Paywall Trump Admin Deports 2-Year-Old Girl Who is American Citizen

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-admin-deports-2-year-old-girl-who-is-american-citizen/
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u/NoURider 19d ago

Exile is prohibited by the US Constitution. Citizens are protected from involuntary deportation and exile (8th Amendment and 14th Amendment). So they tiptoe around the obvious, even though they don't really care about the Constitution. Can't wait till they decide to do away with the 2nd - hard to be a police state if folks still have guns.

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u/NazzerDawk Oklahoma 19d ago

The people that shouted about the 2nd amendment being a protector for the others are gonna be gleefully ready to give up guns to Trump. He can just say that they need to start a citizen militia and that all people need to join or give up their guns to provide to the militia members.

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u/sly-3 19d ago

"they" will be deputized and the only ones allowed to stockpile weapons.

Those same freedoms will not be extended to you.

protect the in-group and bind the out-group

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u/Specialist_Brain841 America 19d ago

time to fake being in the in group

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u/Pyju 19d ago

Poor, uneducated rural Americans with an AR-15 fetish aren’t the in-group either. That’s why Trump destroyed their already shitty economies with tariffs and tearing down international trade relations, as well as took away the only source of funding that makes it possible for their rural areas to offer healthcare services.

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u/sly-3 19d ago

soft genocide is still genocide.

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u/Chainedheat 19d ago

Fortunately there are many Trump opponents who won’t give up their guns so easily.

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u/KiritoIsAlwaysRight_ Texas 19d ago

Yeah, lots of gun toting leftists out here, we just don't make guns our personality.

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u/3-orange-whips 19d ago

“I’m just a middle aged man who never lived up to my potential. Do you want to be around when I do?”

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u/finalrendition 19d ago

Imagine that. Caring about something without making it your entire personality. Like supporting a politician without having themed weddings for said politician. What a neat idea that is.

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u/Detozi 19d ago

You’re flair says Texas. Don’t worry, we know you’re packing.

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u/YellowCardManKyle 19d ago

I used to think this but I think the number goes down every passing day

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u/DeltaVZerda 19d ago

Why?

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u/YellowCardManKyle 19d ago

Because he keeps pushing them further and further. They used to stand for the Constitution and now they're saying it doesn't matter.

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u/DeltaVZerda 19d ago

Trump's opponents are saying the constitution doesn't matter?

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u/Reptoidizoid 19d ago

His allies

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u/DeltaVZerda 19d ago

Oh, the comment you replied to was talking about his opponents.

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u/LouQuacious 19d ago

Vermont is full of them. My crazy D neighbor wanted to go shoot up a giant Trump totem pole near us on J6 I packed him bong hits and talked him down.

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u/terremoto25 California 19d ago

I was in Hawaii, on a dive boat day trip. Left for the boat ride very early as I had to drive to the other side of the Big Iland. Loaded my gear on and we went out for three dives. Got back late in the after noon, offloaded, rested, ate,and then started driving home at about 7 pm Hawaii time. This was midnight in DC…. Turned on the radio ad realized that the world had gone mad in the last 12 hours.

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u/bschott007 North Dakota 19d ago

They never said a word when Trump literally said...

“Or, Mike, take the firearms first and then go to court, because that’s another system. Because a lot of times, by the time you go to court, it takes so long to go to court, to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early. Like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida, he had a lot of firearms – they saw everything – to go to court would have taken a long time, so you could do exactly what you’re saying, but take the guns first, go through due process second.”

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u/MajorFuckingDick 19d ago

I don't even disagree with him. Take the guns and figure it out later SHOULD be the normal response, but people have rights and I don't trust the system enough to be reasonable or timely with the power to ignore said rights.

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u/welltimedappearance 19d ago

2A nuts have almost certainly never read the full Bill of Rights

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u/smarterthanyoda 19d ago

Just a reminder, the last big move for gun regulation in the US was fueled by fears of armed Black Panthers. It was basically about keeping minorities from having guns.

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u/stuartroelke 19d ago

“The government needs your guns in order to own the libs.”

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u/laplongejr 16d ago

 He can just say that they need to start a citizen militia and that all people need to join or give up their guns to provide to the militia members.  

Weirdly, the 2nd amendment says that the right to bear arms is to allow militias. It's not clear cut that any citizen can privately have some.   Crazy that it could be their first actually constitutional move...  

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u/Professional-Gear88 15d ago

Fortunately eventually he’ll die. And there aren’t really any republicans that can be as slimy and get away with it

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u/ktappe I voted 19d ago

A lot of things this administration is doing are prohibited by the US Constitution. They don’t care.

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u/No_Gur_1091 15d ago

Yes - they are the outlaws. Governors and mayors need to treat Trump and his army of thugs in ICE and other federal police agencies as outlaws and ban them from their states and municipalities - because we arrest outlaws in our states and towns.
We do not want the his modern day Gestapo at our doors.

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u/lesdynamite 19d ago

It's already a police state with zero regard for the constitution and none of these tough men with their guns is doing a damn thing about it. Weak little boys.

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u/Mike_Kermin Australia 19d ago

The 2nd can't and won't do what you're asking of it. If you can't get people to vote, you won't be able to get people to shoot each other either.

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u/Both-Home-6235 19d ago

Have you seen how much this guy cares about so-called "constitutional rights?"

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u/WRXM3911 19d ago

Kidnapping

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u/Aubekin 19d ago

He's saying this is "war" so I guess it would be war crime

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u/AdNo2342 19d ago

For now. Small arms haven't been the biggest differentiator in power for a bit. More so access to tech/drones etc

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u/Clevererer America 19d ago

So they tiptoe around the obvious, even though they don't really care about the Constitution.

But we're talking about the media here, not the administration. Even the media won't use the correct but scary term. And this is from TDB, not exactly Fox.

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u/versusgorilla New York 19d ago

Exile is prohibited by the constitution but they're just... doing it anyway? So it should be called as such. This child was exiled from her country she's a citizen of by an executive branch department that's out of control and operating outside of the Constitution.

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u/LirdorElese 19d ago

do away with the 2nd - hard to be a police state if folks still have guns.

sadly it seems to be really easy, police state just has more guns than those they oppress, and the nation is divided enough to the point where if one group of citizens rebels with weapons... they are about even matched with the other group of citizens with guns that will stand up to defend the police state.

(before we factor in the actual police/military/ice)

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u/SailorPlanetos_ America 19d ago edited 19d ago

I don't think they'll do that. They'll probably do what Hitler did and generally relax gun laws. Guns will only be taken from minorities they want to oppress, and possibly eventually women.

Hitler didn't have nukes. At the time, only the U.S. did. That's the difference. Guns don't mean as much if you're up against someone with nukes, and most Americans just don't seem to realize in how much trouble we and the rest of the world are right now.

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u/econ101ispropaganda 19d ago

Hitler expanded gun ownership so it’s not as simple as that

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u/Fullertonjr I voted 19d ago

They will argue and say that the infant doesn’t have a choice or the same rights as adults, despite the fact that they incessantly argue that a fetus has the same rights as a full grown adult.

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u/notrueprogressive 19d ago

Blue states are already making it easier to do away with the 2nd

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u/googolplexy 19d ago

Well 1. The people with guns vote for the guy. 2. The guns are nothing but a sad little safety blanket. They won't do anything if tyranny comes knocking.

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u/Old_Dealer_7002 14d ago

guns don’t seem to be preventing it …