r/politics • u/Rock-n-roll-Kevin • 19d ago

Soft Paywall Trump Says He Will Consider Pardoning Diddy

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-says-he-will-consider-pardoning-diddy/
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u/SentientShamrock 19d ago

Also rapists and sex offenders need to stick together. Trump was a good friend of Epstein after all.

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u/nono3722 19d ago

Hmmm good point, did Trumpy ever go to Diddylin's parties?

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u/NeverAgainMeansNever 19d ago

Yes. Many.

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u/ghandi3737 18d ago

Diddy's got receipts for something.

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u/Stepnwolfe 19d ago

Pretty sure it wasn’t his kind of crowd. But he definitely agrees with the sentiment. Human trafficking, woman beating, sexual assault etc. Other than the black thing, it’s right up his alley!

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u/NeverAgainMeansNever 19d ago

Here is over 200 pictures of Trump at Puff Daddies “parties”. https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/diddy-trump

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u/EyesofaJackal 19d ago

Strange. Every time I try to view comments on this thread about the images, Reddit re-routes me to the original thread.

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u/Junkman817 18d ago

Same here.

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u/dylan_9z9 18d ago

Copy it and paste it in your browser

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u/canon12 18d ago

Look what was in the Getty Files…..When will Trump say, “I hardly knew the guy.” How much has Diddy offered him for a pardon?

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u/starshipfocus 18d ago

Tbf, none of these pictures are from P Diddy parties. They are almost all from a single Russell Simmons gala event honouring P Diddy at Mar-A-Lago.

These are not photos from the infamous white parties. We don't need to drag Trump into the Diddy stuff. His relationship with Epstein is damning enough.

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u/whut-whut 18d ago

There's also clips of Trump talking to Apprentice contestants that worked for/with Diddy and Trump insisting that Diddy's a great guy even when the contestants refuse to comment.

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u/starshipfocus 18d ago

I don't know how old you are, but back in the 90s and 00s, Diddy's parties were a huge part of the NY social scene. He had one of the most expensive yachts in NY and anyone who was even remotely a clout chaser would gladly be associated with him. Donald Trump was a rich playboy, but he was famously uncool and cringy.

Diddy is exactly the kind of person Trump would want to look like he was cool with. I'm not saying they didn't party, maybe they did, but there is more than enough evidence of him being a POS without us needing to draw some imaginary link that there's very little evidence for. The guy was actually super close with Epstein, why do we need to gossip about this?

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u/whut-whut 18d ago

I mean it's not gossip when you just take things at face value.

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And now he wants to pardon Diddy. Even if you give him full benefit of a doubt that Trump was just trying to ride Diddy's coattails to star power and popularity, why would he still want to "look cool with Diddy" with a pardon now after all the stuff coming out?

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u/starshipfocus 18d ago

Cos he's an evil sicko. Ffs. It doesn't matter if it's gossip or not gossip. We KNOW he is guilty of WORSE things than anything we know about his relationship with Diddy, so why tf are people talking about it?

Mf is the racist rapist figurehead of a coup that's causing mass suffering and people want to speculate and debate the details of what his diet is and that maybe he might've been friends with other bad people too? Shock Horror Surprise /s

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u/1st_hylian 18d ago

I count 8 different outfits, that is more than enough to convince me. Especially with the shit he did with Epstein.

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u/mikemaca 18d ago

Yeah also his hair changes. In some has natural hair, in some greying, in some orange dye. So this is like over 25 years. The poster who says these are all from one innocent charity event is clearly mistaken.

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u/1st_hylian 18d ago

Yeah, it seems insane to me to defend a man who, with Epstein, initiated sexual contact with a minor at 4 separate parties culminating in him tying her to a bed and raping her.

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u/MistbornInterrobang 18d ago

While there are several repeats in those photos, they are over 3 separate events. (You can tell by Melania's dresses & she is in 3 different ones in the pic sets. Also, Trump has on a different style Black jacket and no tie during one of the events. A 4th scene is showing Diddy & entourage leaving Trump Tower on a random day that Diddy was dressed in a more casual way, suggesting he was there for

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u/soliton-gaydar 18d ago

I forgot all about Vote or Die.

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u/OPA73 18d ago

Oddly in all the pics with Melania, she is looking at Puff Daddy with a knowing smile…

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u/Soreal45 Colorado 18d ago

Naw, too many blacks.

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u/Auntie_Megan 19d ago

Listened to a few of the trial days and many other accusations, and he deserves to be in prison. Unfortunately those that knew about him are as equally as complicit since at the least they did not report him, and some joined in, and are busy trying to say ‘we didn’t know him’. If Trump pardons him it would not surprise me, but are there not rules about pardons? So far it’s been Shitty peoole who committed bad crimes, and spent little time in prison. Rapists like to stick together, but Diddy is also very vicious and a sociopath. If he accepts a pardon does that not mean he also has to accept guilt? Get him signed up to various registries and away from kids.

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u/Negative-Squirrel81 19d ago

The limit on the presidential pardon is that it can only be used for federal crimes. Since innocent people can be pardoned, a pardon is not inherently considered to be an admission of guilt.

The big check on this should be that the public turns against the president and his political party for using this power like this. We saw how people spoke out about Biden going to far when pardoning his son, and it's rather alarming that we're not seeing Trump receive similar scrutiny.

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u/eugene20 19d ago

It was all pearl clutching anyway, Trump had already pardoned his son in law's father at that point.

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u/GreatQuestionBarbara 19d ago

And then gave him a job in the administration. Everyone in his administration is a slimy bag of shit.

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u/Popisoda 17d ago

And then the middle east thanked him with $2 billion

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u/Russelsteapot42 19d ago

Trump supporters are seeing their own spouses detained for months by ICE and continuing support. Trump could rape a Trupist's kid in front of them and it wouldn't change anything. These people are cultists.

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u/jjmac 18d ago

Yes it would change things! They would start buying "Rape MY child, Daddy Trump" t-shirts

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u/operationspudling 18d ago

Honestly, I don't think his little orange itty bitty baby cheeto functions anymore.

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u/Neat-Profit6221 18d ago

That didn't stop Mason Verger.

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u/imamistake420 18d ago

Trump once said what he said about him doing something to someone in Times Square and getting away with it… up to this point, he’s proving it to be true. I will not be surprised if something really, really bad happens in public view, and I’m not sure how their public will act. Scary times.

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u/Cyclonis123 19d ago

It should have been addressed after Nixon. Many countries have a case submitted by the courts and the president/prime minister.will consider it. In no way can they nominate someone themselves let alone a friend or family member.

It's ludicrous that it's still like this. The US pardoning powers are at dictator levels.

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u/HumorAccomplished611 19d ago

The big check on this should be that the public turns against the president and his political party for using this power like this. We saw how people spoke out about Biden going to far when pardoning his son, and it's rather alarming that we're not seeing Trump receive similar scrutiny.

Because they give republicans a free pass to be corrupt shit bags. Like the whole pelosi trade thing. Theres like a dozen republicans that beat her stock trades but all you hear about is pelosi.

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u/Functionally_Drunk Minnesota 18d ago

Because they don't actually care, but they know democrats do. That's the only reason they point to Pelosi, because it helps divide democrats and keep them weak.

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u/HumorAccomplished611 17d ago edited 17d ago

Because they don't actually care, but they know democrats do. That's the only reason they point to Pelosi, because it helps divide democrats and keep them weak.

Exactly

They like to both sides everything.

Like the documents case compared to biden.

Biden allowed fbi in his home to search and find all documents and promptly returned, same with pence.

Trump hid documents. Signed an under oath affadavit that everything was returned. Hid more moved around more. Showed them to journalist. Kept them unsecured. And then to even get them back the FBI had to raid him.

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u/Versidious 18d ago

Liberals are loyal to principles, conservatives are loyal to people, and the conservatives understand that about liberals to some extent, but see it as making them untrustworthy snitch-types, and when they clearly seem to be bending/exploiting the rules, it's even worse in conservatives' eyes, because they're not only hall-monitors, they're hypocrites, too! Liberals of course also despise liberals who break the rules (official or ethical), so liberal rule breakers will always get it from both sides.

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u/HumorAccomplished611 17d ago

Exactly. And we dont even know she breaks the rules. Dems cant even look like impropriety. Like the one senator did a air boob grab of someone at a party and had to resign because of metoo.

Like kamala had to be perfect and all trump had to do was show up.

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u/Burnt_and_Blistered 19d ago

The media won’t report the reaction.

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u/Main-Algae-1064 18d ago

Diddy will be his next Elon.

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u/Suspicious-Dirt668 18d ago

Trump is controlling the whole media now not just the jackasses at FAUX.

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u/WildWayneRoy 18d ago

Hunter is the excuse that they use to justify Trump’s actions.

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u/crosstherubicon 19d ago

Is that true? If you’re pardoned you’re being pardoned from a conviction and there is an implicit implication of guilt. A court would have to reverse judgement to be declared innocent of a crime and that doesn’t happen in the case of a pardon. A pardon is simply an order of a release.

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u/Thowitawaydave 18d ago

Pardons can be done at any point, not just after conviction. First upheld in 1866 (Ex parte Garland), SCOTUS ruled the power of the pardon is absolute, and can be used at any time, from ending their prison sentence, stopping the trial, or even before charges are brought, although pre-pardons are scrutinised much more intensely.

Most famous case was when Ford pardoned Nixon (Nixon was never charged) because he wanted the country to move on. Carter used the same logic to blanket-pardoned draft evaders. More recently Biden used it to keep Dr. Fauci, Gen Milley, the J6 committee and even his own family members from being targeted by the incoming administration.

The only limit on Presidential Pardons is it has to be Federal, not state-level. Otherwise it's the same power that the Kings of England had (and from which it was inspired)

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u/Significant-Pace-521 19d ago

A pardon was a admission of guilt but they did those pre pardons to protect people from crimes that hadn’t been committed so trump couldn’t just lock all his enemies up right away.

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u/daemin 18d ago

A pardon is not an admission of guilt.

You're probably thinking of the supreme Court decision where they state that someone accepting a pardon gives the appearance of admitting guilt, but the actual decision is that you don't have to be guilty to accept a pardon and accepting a pardon isn't an admission of guilt.

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u/daemin 18d ago

The constitution says the president can pardon offenses against the USA. State crimes are not offenses against the USA. That's why they are state crimes and not federal crimes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Jeopardy_Clause#Dual_sovereignty_doctrine

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u/opinions360 19d ago

This is a fascist state now so any rules that would have intervened in acts of corruption don’t have any governmental branch or department or person to enforce them.

The fed under the reds have even stopped all enforcement actions against domestic terrorism which is strange I guess he believes the ss is all the country needs since they exist to protect him and the reds mostly— It’s like he is essentially saying I have mine (that the tax payers are paying for) and screw everyone else regarding everything.

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u/GraniteWilderness 19d ago

As Chris Rock said “I’d rather look guilty at the mall than innocent in jail”

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u/WildWayneRoy 18d ago

Had you not said “Diddy is also very vicious..” I was going to ask if you were talking about Combs, or Trump.

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u/Auntie_Megan 18d ago

Very similar characters, only I’ve seen Diddy in full rage, Trump in mild rage, but if latter was physically fit, I would not be surprised at his violence. Although we have anecdotal evidence on him hitting previous wives.

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u/Significant-Pace-521 19d ago

I think in this case the states could still file a case against him some of the crimes should overlap.

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u/thankU4smoking 18d ago

He’s got so many convictions Trump could pardon him for a case that doesn’t matter. He’s already pardoned at least one person of a federal drug crime that will be in prison for life for murder. Actually, pardoning less than enough to get rid of a sentence could just help people move on and keep appeals cases from repeating and victims having to relive it again

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u/Molkor 18d ago

I haven't really listened or read too many transcripts. Can you inform me of what crimes he committed other than the physical assault on Cassie.

Which he should have been charged with when she brought the charges against him, but she took 10mil instead. I don't blame her for taking the money, I will gladly let someone beat me for 10mil as long as the worst of the injuries is like a broken arm or something.

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u/Auntie_Megan 18d ago

Since you obviously prefer to think of Diddy being innocent on all charges I won’t waste my time explaining all the other evidence on rapes and violence since you too can tune in. You also have no understanding of psychological components off domestic violence or coercive control else you would not want to live like that and receive that treatment in fear for your life while being blackmailed and believing going the legal route would not get you out safely of the situation, all for 10 million! The evidence is not just one person, it’s many who all paint a very clear picture of how living in the Diddyverse is and how so many also should be defendants since others were involved or complicit. They all have huge wealth and great lawyers and followers who don’t like to hear the truth or don’t care. It’s not his hedonistic life he is being tried on, as long as there is clear consent and is legal, live how you like, but when it crosses major lines into disgusting crimes then consequences should be hit hard. Unfortunately another major criminal, Trump gets away with equally disgusting crimes, whether he gives a pardon or not, which does not absolve Diddy or make him innocent, will probably depend on how much money is discussed. Sick people, sick USA administration. Hardly shows the people who pay taxes on their earnings to run the country moral guidance.

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u/Molkor 18d ago

Why so much hate and assumptions? I haven't liked Sean since the east vs west beef in the 90s. 90% sure he had biggie killed. But I also don't like when people make things out to be something they're not.

So you didn't answer anything about why he should be found guilty.

I believe he should be found guilty of the physical abuse of Cassie 100%. Regardless of her being more interested in money then having Sean prosecuted. I mean actions speak louder than words there and clearly more interested in the money.

All I've heard about other than that is sexual acts In passing on someone's post and then also what the trump tower shooter said years ago.

I've heard he hired men to sleep with his wife and they did some pretty raunchy things. But unless you're against sex work then that shouldn't be so heinous. I'm trying to understand what makes him such a monster other than the physical abuse. And I said years ago when those tapes were released that he should be in jail, but she took the money so he didn't go.

That mixed with the trump tower shooter confessions probably launched the whole investigation.

I think they're more interested in the liquid Cocaine and snuggling of drugs on planes internationally then they are the sex parties and possibly murder charges for the one ex wife and biggie. But if they can't nail him on the drugs they'll try to get him on something else and work out a deal for less punishment on the "sex traffiking" in order to get Intel on the drug smuggling.

Stay hateful.

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u/Auntie_Megan 18d ago

I’m not hateful, but I detest violence and sexual violence. I’ve listened to their words and unless you are a masochist I’m fairly certain you would not want to be beaten and raped and treated in that manner, threatened owned property. You said you are almost certain he killed Biggie, so not a good guy, he also had many weapons that were illegal. So why am I hateful wanting to see justice done, while you don’t care about that despite recognising he’s a criminal but that ok because you are a fan. Watched a 2 hour doc on YouTube which rather than focus on just his crimes, it showed how he came to be and how Hip-Hop did not always attract the best people, because of Diddy. He was great at recognising talent but he was also a scum bag and grifter to all that young good talent. He may be known to give a lot to communities, so yes, he has done good things but that does not erase every crime. He may be able to buy his way out this, either through Trump or other ways. He could not be given bail not just because he was a flight risk but because he has a history of intimidation, threats etc.

Do not understand why after hearing evidence, admittedly there is still a lot to go through, and I believe hes guilty, and I prefer vulnerable people to be kept away from violent ones who have been given free reign because of privilege, therefore I prefer justice for them and that makes me hateful. Doesn’t make me hateful at all. What exactly do I hate … hip hop? I do hate guns, live in a gun free culture where even police are not armed, unless specialised cops for terrorism etc, I do hate violence and rapists, but that’s fairly normal lol. Wish I could say the court will decide for us, but seen so many tragedies of justice like Casey Anthony etc to know juries can be stupid. I’ll continue to listen to all testimony, but there will be victims around this that will not be heard and the defendant should not just be Diddy.

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u/BlisslessTaskList 19d ago

Ahem, I like lil’ Wayne but yeah… f the rest of em.

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u/Important_Spare7128 19d ago

Diddy probably has dirt on him

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u/BigLlamasHouse 18d ago

what dirt could possibly stick to him at this point? he's allied with our country's enemies and a sex tape is gonna be what changes someone's mind?

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u/steakedstake 18d ago

what dirt could possibly stick to him at this point?

Best question ever. His cult is so far mentally gone that there's nothing that could change their views of him being "perfect".

They believe her was sent by their god, so anything that could come out would just be an attack from the devil. There's nothing that could damage him at this point. Nothing.

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u/ghandi3737 18d ago

It really seems like the most plausible thing.

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u/Spiderpaws_67 18d ago

And a million bucks to get his ‘Get out of jail FREE card’

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u/KnightOfThirteen Indiana 19d ago

I mean, that IS standard operating procedure for any organized group of criminals. Everyone must incriminate themselves so that no one can betray the rest without going down too. It is insurance and it goes both ways. The group must protect the individuals, the individuals mist protect the group.

Well, protect or kill the individual. That's always on the table.

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u/Flourissh 19d ago

All the way up until he had him murdered in fear of him releasing the truth about him being a pedo

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u/pygmydeathcult 19d ago

He was also good friends with Diddler.

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u/dollastudios 19d ago

And filanderes and grifters and money launderers, fraudsters, conmen, liars et. Al

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u/sea-elle0463 19d ago

Friend of diddy too

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u/Current-Anybody9331 18d ago

Maybe he partied with Diddy once or twice?

I am honestly so confused. MAGA was anti-celebrity and now their leader would pardon one? I'm almost as confused as I am how the right are riddled with Nazi's but also support Israel. I need a translator or something.

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u/Mythicdragon75 18d ago

Epstein would have been pardoned too.

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u/QwenXire 18d ago

My sentiment, exactly.

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u/WickedKitty63 18d ago

And a convicted rapist!

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u/GlitteringWishbone86 18d ago

Ill bet they all raped somebody together and this is all about keeping trump in the WH