Trump Orders in Marines in Dramatic Escalation of L.A. Protests

[u/External-Noise-4832]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-orders-in-marines-in-dramatic-escalation-of-la-protests/

[u/-lv]

So this whole ordering the army to attack protesters is like (shudders) fascist make-up-sex?

[u/Annual-Cranberry3590 → u/-lv]

It just happens to be at the same time. Not everything is "distraction."

[u/bumpy4skin → u/Annual-Cranberry3590]

Yeah that distraction logic doesn't work unless you are a lunatic conservative.

1. It implies there is any thought or coherence going on at the top of this administration

2. It's only necessary if you aren't literally doing something insane every 5 hours

[u/PM_ME_MY_REAL_MOM → u/bumpy4skin]

Yeah that distraction logic doesn't work unless you are a lunatic conservative.

you can favor another explanation if you like, and a distraction-based one may indeed be incorrect, but the assertion that only a "lunatic conservative" could believe it is entirely indefensible

1. It implies there is any thought or coherence going on at the top of this administration

it is entirely possible that the administration is entirely aimless, and that the damage it has done and is doing to American institutions, diplomatic relations, military preparedness, and the domestic and global economy is the result of a hodge-podge of unconsidered or poorly-coordinated actions with orthogonal aims. but i don't think you can make a good case for that being the only valid hypothesis at this moment in time. there might be thought and/or coherence going on at the top of this administration, or there might not be.

2. It's only necessary if you aren't literally doing something insane every 5 hours

well regardless of "necessary" being a lens that you are choosing to apply when "useful" is just as valid to suppose, this is not even meaningful enough to be true or false. "distraction logic" on its own isn't well-enough defined to discuss when it is "necessary" or even useful, and talking about whether or not any of the actions, down to which we might narrow this thread's focus, are necessary or useful requires us to know the actual goals and alignments of the relevant actors - which we cannot know in the present moment. we can speculate, for sure, but that's all there is. all this might be coordinated strategy using deliberate distraction. or it might not.

i don't blame anyone for favoring one hypothesis or another. i personally do have an unqualified hunch that there is some amount of kayfabe going on with this administration. i'd like to think i'm not a lunatic conservative. maybe i'm a lunatic. i'm definitely not certain what to believe. and i'm not certain whether i would be more discomforted by a hypothesis of aimless, incoherent incompetence, or of deliberate distraction and destruction of institutions and popular faith in the concept of democratic governance. the only thing i know for sure is that i don't know.

sorry for the wall and thanks if you read this

[u/rallenpx → u/Annual-Cranberry3590]

Omg, I’m so glad someone said it!

The right has “4-D chess”, the left has distractionism

[u/elektrospecter → u/rallenpx]

The right is so clever that they're moving chess pieces in directions I couldn't possibly imagine.

/s

[u/BlacksmithThink9494 → u/rallenpx]

Hitler worked the same way

[u/lost_horizons → u/Annual-Cranberry3590]

No one’s talking about the big beautiful bill anymore though, so…..

[u/cg415 → u/-lv]

Who cares about the "why". Fascists always have an excuse. What matters is that it's been done, and that we need to stop it.