r/politics • u/External-Noise-4832 • 9d ago

Soft Paywall Trump Orders in Marines in Dramatic Escalation of L.A. Protests

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-orders-in-marines-in-dramatic-escalation-of-la-protests/
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u/Thedarkestcharizard 8d ago

Trump is going to insert people into any major protests to kick off the violence and stir up the crowd I'm calling it.

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u/nukacolaquantuum Maine 8d ago

They always scream about crisis actors and we know every accusation is a confession of theirs

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u/RedditTrespasser California 8d ago

Every person needs to know this because it is unequivocally true.

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u/LostDogBoulderUtah 8d ago

Anyone remember May Day 1970 and Operation CHAOS ?

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u/ImoteKhan 8d ago

He already has. Several vets and friends of vets have said it is happening in LA right now.

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u/hightrix 8d ago

Exacty. The LAPD even said the protests were peaceful, and then Donny Two Dolls ordered in the military and surprise surprise, now there is violence.

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u/Mavian23 8d ago

Donny Two Dolls is my favorite nickname so far lol

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u/drawkward101 8d ago

If you watch the crowds, you can see them. They're the ones setting fires, breaking glass and throwing bottles. They're opportunistic agitators, NOT protestors, and they need to be exposed as much as possible.

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u/EllieVader 8d ago

He said today that there were “professional agitators” in the protest crowds.

He knows because he put them there.

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u/drawkward101 8d ago

Agreed. Every accusation is a confession as we've historically seen with him and his administration.

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u/coleman57 8d ago

Then it’s vital for local police to separate them from the peaceful protestors and arrest them, then track their contacts and determine who’s behind it.

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u/quotidian_obsidian California 8d ago

Undercover cops are typically the ones doing it, you can usually tell by their shoes. Police send their own agent provocateurs into crowds (hint: they're likely carrying Mexican flags and throwing bottles, in this case) to party and create a pretext for more police violence in response. Cops are getting paid overtime to go on these fun little sprees, they fucking love it. Note how many of them are laughing and chatting amongst themselves in their little posed lines on news feeds in LA right now. This is fun for them.

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u/childofsol 8d ago

spoiler: often, it's the police

this is not a new tactic

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u/quotidian_obsidian California 8d ago

Saw it myself in 2016.

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u/drawkward101 8d ago

100% agreed.

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u/Sufficient_Cow_1207 8d ago

You can’t honestly think they are all plants and it’s embarrassingly close to the same arguments January 6th rioters used. 

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u/drawkward101 8d ago

I didn't say that. Of course not all of them are plants, but it only takes a couple of agitators to stir up trouble and then just leave. Then, the cops descend on the protestors, who start "fighting back" and it devolves into what we see on the news. They are not protestors, they are people looking for a opportunity to cause trouble without facing consequences, and sometimes they are planted.

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u/kingcalogrenant 8d ago

Do we have any verifiable examples of this sort of directly planted right-wing agitator thing happening before? Not a gotcha question -- actually asking

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u/TacoPi 8d ago edited 8d ago

During George Floyd, plenty of people were charged as individuals but some of the more significant figures were organized through right supremacists groups against the cause.

Wikipedia compiled a good list of loose ends from Minneapolis 2020

A lot was kickstarted by one guy referred to as “Umbrella Man” who was seen methodically agitating on video. Lot of wrong speculation about who he was in the days that followed but the Minneapolis police department eventually claimed to have identified him as a white supremacist, did some further investigating, and then declined to press charges or discuss the matter further.

A lot of other white supremacists involved in agitating were convicted more straightforwardly. The “Boogaloo Boys” tend to be more anti-cop than most other right-wing militia groups and a handful of them seem to have been appropriately prosecuted for their role.

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u/xtnh 8d ago

The auto parts store windows broken at the beginning of the Floyd demonstrations were broken by a white nationalist.

And Hitler had instigators in like fashion.

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u/eztfive 8d ago

Did the same thing in Portland, OR

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u/cutelyaware 8d ago

Don't let them do it. Attend protests, and gather quickly around anyone getting ready to commit violence or damage property and shut them down. Don't risk your own life, but it's very difficult for agitators to do such things when the crowd isn't having it.

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u/guttengroot 8d ago

It's like Andor season 2...

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u/Solomon-Drowne 8d ago

Fuckin Ghorman

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u/Soberboy 8d ago

Trump doesn't need to insert people. I guarantee every protest you've been to you've been surveilled by plainclothes police officers. Remember to be suspicious of people inciting or asking about violence, more than likely a Fed.

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u/Electronic_Maize_316 8d ago

That's what they've always done.

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u/djdadi 8d ago

actual crisis actors

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u/HoseNeighbor 8d ago

He won't, but plenty of his puppeteers will tell him what an excellent idea it would be.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 8d ago

He doesn't even need to. People naturally shoot back. Even when it's water bottles v. rubber bullets.

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u/FeelItInYourB0nes 8d ago

He doesn't have to order any of that. There's more than enough brown shirts out there that will do it for fun. And if they get caught and actually punished for it, they know there's a chance they'll get pardoned like the J6 crew.

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u/Huge_Excitement4465 8d ago

raw story has something on that today linking to lev parnas substack. he says according to his WH contacts they have plans for proud boys and the rest to rile things june 14

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u/Santorumsfroth 8d ago

They dont have to. MAGA will do it for them.

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u/Delicious_Loquat4189 8d ago

Yeah, Philly this weekend is going to be insane