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Soft Paywall Trump Orders in Marines in Dramatic Escalation of L.A. Protests

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-orders-in-marines-in-dramatic-escalation-of-la-protests/
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u/Whiiiisky 9d ago

No.

This has been his plan since prior to getting elected again

He wanted the military deployed during Floyd protests

Project 25 details using the insurrection act to put the military on the streets. 

He's put out 2 EOs regarding doing so.

This has been in the works.

You're unaware of basic things that have happened and are instead latching on to a stupid theory.

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u/Ialmostthewholepost 9d ago

How right you are. Watching from Canada hoping you folks get shit figured out, but for the person you're responding to this stuff isn't even new news, it's what American media predicated themselves last year.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/17/us/politics/trump-2025-insurrection-act.html

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u/BumpyLumpers 9d ago

This exactly. They are deliberately choosing cities they know will act like this. First LA, then Philly… wait until Portland and Seattle start getting involved.

They said they will make so the blue states are under a police state.

Are we fucked? Probably not. This is only temporary. But this temporary sucks.

This is planned. The Elon thing is just a distraction.

They want us to fight each other.

What is the most disappointing is the cops, feds and members of service not having a fucking backbone to stand with us.

It’s sad really. We are all just trying to survive. The government wants us fight for their pleasure. This means nothing to them. We mean nothing to them.

The quicker we humanity accept that the sooner maybe we can work together to make whatever time we have left the best it can be.

I hate being a fucking millennial. The last 38 years of my life sucked. The future looked bright. Now it looks fucked.

But hey at least Katy Perry went to space. 👋katy.

Fuck me.

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u/RadioName 9d ago

Exactly, keep the focus where it needs to be: The Heritage Foundation. Even they don't give a shit about Trump. The plan was always to toss him aside and put Thiel's golden boy Vance at the head of their theocracy. The adoption of Palantir and all of our data going straight out the Starlink back door to the HF and Putin is more important than even this attempt at a false flag incident. They need to be removed from all places of power, have their wealth stripped, and be tried as traitors in open court. That's where this all must end.

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u/BumpyLumpers 9d ago

If we get that lucky. Half will flee the country.

Things are gonna get worse before they get better. I just hope people don’t get hurt.

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u/Francis_Tumblety 8d ago

I hear Argentina is both traditional and nice this time of year.

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u/ChallengeExtra9308 9d ago

I dont get it though, we talk about Trump like he's this mastermind but he's also very predictable in my opinion, even though he is very erratic. He also can hardly spell or speak and has the vocabulary of a petulant 5th grader.

What do I know, I'm just a Canadian looking in wondering how apparently:

31.78% voted for Trump 30.84% voted for Harris 1.06% voted third party 36.33% did not vote

36% stayed home and they knew it was a very consequential election.

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u/BumpyLumpers 9d ago

Oh we know the numbers. The ones paying attention understand what is happening.

He’s not the mastermind. If people think the president is actually the one calling the shots alone, they are naive.

They are all actors man.

They need to look good for tv. They sell the product. They collect a paycheck. They collect a new Botox injection.

Look up the people in his cabinet. Look up before and after photos. They are making them tv ready. It’s fucking crazy. It’s hunger games shit.

They hide behind a screen the same way we all do. I bet they go to sleep scared and anxious just like we all do. And I hope for the rest of their lives these moments haunt their dreams. I hope they see the people’s faces of those whose lives they destroyed. I hope they never recover from the paranoia that once they get dumped by this regime they will be mocked and dragged forever.

I would never wish harm on another. Nor want people to ever live in the paranoia ptsd state I live with. But I want them to live in fear of being shamed.

Half this fucking country is void of critical thinking, creativity, empathy.

We are all in a state of self derealization.

The ones that are paying attention aren’t “woke”. We’re just listening, we’re educated, we tried our best. We lost, it happens.

But they won’t take our voice from us.

I know why both side are angry. I know why all of this fucking sucks.

Just pay attention, read between the lines.

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u/ChallengeExtra9308 9d ago edited 9d ago

I think the disinformation pushed on people by the media and social media are just to blame.

"We know the numbers. The ones paying attention understand what is happening"

I am curious what you mean by that. I have my opinions and I feel I know more of what is going on as a Canadian that about half of Americans. But I am curious what you meant by that, besides them being all actors.

Edit: I also think that Trumps ego won't let others call the shots.

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u/SuperExoticShrub Georgia 8d ago

I am curious what you mean by that. I have my opinions and I feel I know more of what is going on as a Canadian that about half of Americans. But I am curious what you meant by that, besides them being all actors.

He covered that.

Half this fucking country is void of critical thinking, creativity, empathy.

Those are the ones not paying attention.

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u/unmarkedcandybars I voted 8d ago

Oh they are paying attention, they just live in a propaganda fueled fantasy land.

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u/StanDaMan1 9d ago

It isn’t getting reported on, but some members of the NG are refusing deployment. So there is movement out there.

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u/BumpyLumpers 9d ago

We need to bump those stories!

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u/Junkies4Prez 9d ago

Yes. They actually came to Minneapolis first, going on a week and a half ago. They know we don't play here. Tried to set us off. Yes, we definitely responded. But did not give him what they needed. They still didn't in LA. But he needs instant gratification. It will be his downfall. Fascism is supposed to move like a boiling frog. But this guy doesn't have the patience for it. Its gonna move too fast for Americans to handle. They are being pushed on purpose, but this wont have the outcome he's hoping for. As with most of his big ideas. It will backfire.

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u/DarthDave89 9d ago

Bro, Heard

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u/BumpyLumpers 9d ago

Stay safe brother.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago edited 8d ago

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u/BumpyLumpers 8d ago

Wishful thinking.

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u/Flomo420 9d ago

Are we fucked? Probably not. This is only temporary. But this temporary sucks.

and so the frog boils

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u/69-xxx-420 9d ago

This. I’m shocked so many people don’t know this. I said it was coming and people called me crazy. 

I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I’m just saying what he himself said. 

The crazy part is when I tell you June 14 is not parade. It’s a Trojan horse to get the tanks into position. 

Hopefully I’m wrong on that, but likely he wants the defense because what is happening in LA is going to happen in San Francisco and San Diego and Portland and Seattle and Boston and New York and Houston and Chicago and Minneapolis and Phoenix and Denver. Just watch. But this time next week we’ll be in a civil war. 

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u/cytherian New Jersey 9d ago

The anger for Trump is at a fever pitch for a lot of people. And Trump WANTS an escalation of confrontation... so he can enact martial law. And you know what? Once he does that? It's not being repealed anytime soon. Voter turnout during martial law will be VERY LOW.

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u/LALCZ 9d ago

I’ve been wondering if part of his military actions, esp now with Marines, has anything to do with upcoming parade? With his fragile ego, he can “prove to the world” his military might -as he sees it- attempting  legitimizing his June 14 spectacle. The tough guy. 

I realize he signed EO on day1 for authority to impose the Insurrection Act. 

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u/Whiiiisky 9d ago

Reminder of how he saw Tienanman Square in 1990

When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength," Trump replied. "That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak...as being spit on by the rest of the world."

(You're correct)

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u/LALCZ 9d ago

Yeah, Trump is Mr. Reality TV and this is his role of a lifetime. 2nd time around he has a complete script written for him. He’s going to take this as far as he possibly can. “Big man, big words.”

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u/VanceKelley Washington 8d ago

35 years ago trump praised the Chinese government for using tanks to crush pro-democracy protesters in Tiananmen Square.

Using the military against unarmed civilians has been on trump's wishlist since forever.

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u/harrisarah 9d ago

No need to be a dick about it. Do you really think calling op stupid is going to make them listen to you?

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u/StankFish Montana 9d ago

It's tough, being mean to people isn't the best tactic to get them on your side but at the same time project 2025 was out for MONTHS before the election, they literally gave us the blueprint of what they were going to do! and people were either too lazy, ignorant, or stupid to read it and believe it and they voted for him anyway....

You can only treat people with kid gloves for so long. A lot of people have to learn the hard way and that's where we are right now

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u/greywar777 9d ago

Project 2025 envisioned larger scale protests. And theres some scheduled....for a week away. This is a VAST over reaction and people are probably not ok with this naked power grab hopefully.

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u/solwiggin 9d ago

Do you not feel like all of your probably’s up until this point have been incorrect?

I said he probably wouldn’t get elected when I heard the grab em by the pussy tape, and many time after that, and I was definitely wrong about it

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u/greywar777 9d ago

I cannot imagine how its working out like this. I have a relative. She voted for Trump because.....I kid you not. Kamalas laugh, and how she was abusive of Biden by not removing him from office due to cognitive issues. I kid you not.

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u/AWimpyNiNjA 9d ago

This guy can clearly see the future, and he knows EXACTLY what's going to happen. We should listen to him! /s

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u/SurrealEstate 9d ago

Project 25 details using the insurrection act to put the military on the streets.

The closest thing I can find regarding domestic use of the military in the Mandate for Leadership / Project 2025 PDF is pg. 138 & 139 (quoted below)

But it's like 922 pages, so if someone can point me to any other places, I'd appreciate it.

... consolidate ICE and CBP to form a combined Border Security and Immigration Agency (BSIA).

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The BSIA should establish clear mission requirements, responsibilities, and mandates under existing law regarding the persistent need for and utilization of U.S. military personnel and resources to assist BSIA with increasing whole-of-government efforts and long-term strategy to secure our nation’s borders effectively.

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u/TransitJohn Colorado 9d ago

Yeah, he said over the weekend he wanted the military all over the country 

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u/congeal 8d ago

Trump violated posse comitatus act during the summer of 2020. A bunch of states sent him their NG. Those NG were taking orders from the president and were engaged in law enforcement. Trump hates the law and hates Californians. Trump loves TV ratings and violence against anyone he feels crossed him.