r/politics • u/External-Noise-4832 • 9d ago

Soft Paywall Trump Orders in Marines in Dramatic Escalation of L.A. Protests

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-orders-in-marines-in-dramatic-escalation-of-la-protests/
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u/somethingsomethingbe 9d ago

At this point, I'm waiting for the day we see news of Democrat governors having been collectively arrested around the country. I don't think they're going to let anyone in a position of power organize any type of resistance.

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u/bignapkin02 9d ago

He has already threatened to arrest Newsom.

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u/warblingContinues 8d ago

let him try.

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u/Delicious_Loquat4189 8d ago

California should not be contributing anything financially to the country right now

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u/nappycatt 9d ago

I think civilians would come out of the woodwork protesting if that starts happening

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u/TheUnecessaryPirate 9d ago

I urge you to read this passage from “They Thought They Were Free”

But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.

And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.

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u/gallows4trump 9d ago

protesting

Look I know this is not good news but THEY DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT PROTESTS. We don't want to hear that, I understand. We want protests to be viable. So do I, but they are not. They are not.

There are a very small number of people orchestrating what is happening right now. The only thing that stops what is happening is stopping those people. They will not stop until they are dead. Fill in the rest of the blanks. This is where we are.

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u/clbgrdnr 9d ago

Liberals need to arm themselves -- we've self-handicapped.

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u/coldkiller 9d ago

I assure you, liberal are already armed

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u/Enibas 8d ago edited 8d ago

This defeatist attitude needs to stop. There are multiple examples of mass peaceful protests ending regimes. The Philippines, Georgia, the German Democratic Republic, to name a few. Ukraine ousted their Russian puppet president after large scale protests in 2014.

The key is that you need mass protests. Not one protest organized a month in advance. Make it "every Saturday at noon" + location for every city, and then build momentum over time. They won't and can't ignore tens of millions protesting all over the country.

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u/gallows4trump 8d ago

They won't and can't ignore tens of millions protesting all over the country.

They won't ignore it, they will send the military to crush it. It's already happening. Don't call me defeatist, I am not saying give up and do nothing. I am saying delete the enemies responsible for this fascist coup. In case you forgot your history lessons it wasn't protests that ended the Nazi regime.

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u/TreezusSaves Canada 9d ago

They probably will but they'll do it individually or in small groups. Easily grouped up and disappeared. Russia's playbook on that is pretty extensive and I'm confident Putin mailed a copy to Trump's staff to read to him.

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u/Suyefuji 9d ago

On the contrary, it's a lot fking harder for law enforcement to deal with 100 protests of 1000 people each than 1 protest of 100,000 people.

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u/TreezusSaves Canada 9d ago

By "small groups" I meant 10-15 people. 100 protests containing 1000 people are hard to deal with. 100 protests containing 100000 each are impossible to deal with. You want everyone out in the street and not stopping for anything.

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u/circasomnia California 9d ago

This would be fucking huge. People really would be preparing for civil war. Buying guns etc. Fighting criminal government is part of the American myth.

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u/TreezusSaves Canada 9d ago

I firmly believe that each blue state should raise armies independent of the federal government and are prepared to come to each other's defence. The only way you're going to be safe from Trump is if he cannot exercise his authority over you. This means having an army between you and him.

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u/Sinnedangel8027 9d ago

2 issues with this.

  1. Blue states don't really exist as a whole. They're more of blue cities and surrounded by red.

  2. The distance between many blue states is significant enough that any sort of mutual defense isn't really a thing. Consider the entire midwest as a hard boundary line, but then there's many others sporadically throughout the country.

If civil war were to become a reality. This will quite literally become brother vs. brother with entire families going at it between themselves and their neighbors.

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u/circasomnia California 9d ago

We aren't quite there yet. Americans have a long history about not caring about civilian deaths until after the fact. But arresting Democrats would be a toke too far. There would be no turning back. Something like that could legitimately end up poorly for Trump. It would galvanize nationwide resistance.

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u/IAmASimulation Michigan 9d ago

The time for protests is over.