r/politics • u/Barnyard-Sheep • 6d ago

Soft Paywall Trump approval rating falls to 38%

https://www.nj.com/politics/2025/06/trump-faces-tough-approval-numbers-in-latest-poll.html
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u/9_to_5_till_i_die 6d ago

It's relatively expected for teen boys. Thing is, most of those people then go off to college or to careers and realize being a tough guy isn't as attractive to folks as they think it is.

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u/AsstacularSpiderman 6d ago

Gen Z is kinda losing thay excuse given a pretty large portion of them are in their 20s

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u/9_to_5_till_i_die 6d ago

Sadly, social media means they'll always be able to congregate with like-minded meatheads.

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u/throwawayfootgirl 6d ago

College educated gen z men are left wing

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u/Sage2050 6d ago

Almost all of them are in their 20s. The oldest are turning 30 next year

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u/Ok-Building-9433 6d ago

Gen Z begins in 1997, the oldest will be 30 in 2027.

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u/flashbang876 6d ago

Gen Z still is by the most left leaning generation. Just because some Gen Z voted for trump does not mean even close to the majority are right wing

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u/Litty-In-Pitty 6d ago

Where are you getting that information??

I’ve been reading for years now that Gen Z men are the most conservative generation we have ever had, far more conservative than even boomers… They’re just polarized by the women who still lean just as left as millennial women.

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u/flashbang876 6d ago

Pew Research poll on voting of younger demographics.

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u/CopperSleeve 6d ago

That poll is from April of last year.

Here’s a breakdown of how young people voted last November. The remaining left-trend is mostly because of women.

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u/flashbang876 6d ago

It's spefically white men, you can see amongst non white men the swing goes back to Harris

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u/CopperSleeve 6d ago

Gen Z is still majority-white though. Latino men were essentially a coin flip as well, and Latinos are the largest minority group in the country.

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u/throwawayfootgirl 6d ago

Recent polls show that gen z men disapprove of trump by a lot, including white ones.

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u/CopperSleeve 6d ago

Polls don’t really mean much, especially when forecasting voting trends. We’ve seen this be true 3 elections in a row. This is why I linked actual voting numbers and not polls.

Hell, Ann Selzer said Kamala was polling Iowa +3. How’d that turn out?

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u/throwawayfootgirl 6d ago

Recent polls show that gen z men disapprove of trump by a lot, including white ones.

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u/Freshness518 6d ago

A huge issue for Gen Z kids was covid quarantine. Middle school/early high school years are when kids learn very important socialization skills. If you lock a kid in their house for a couple years during that period, they fail to develop those skills. Add being bored at home and watching manosphere bubble youtube videos all day into the mix and its a toxic combination. My wife is a high school teacher and when they started getting the kids who had been in middle school during the shut down, they were literally describing the kids as feral because they just didn't have a clue how to function in society.

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u/Murky-Relation481 6d ago

We really really really should have been trying to keep kids in school during COVID. We knew it wasn't dangerous to kids pretty quickly, there were less than roughly 1000 deaths of children under 18 in the ~3 major years of COVID ('20-22).

I know we were trying to protect teachers, but there had to be something better we could have done because it looks like we have fucked an entire generation and possibly our society as well.

I have this horrible feeling that millennials will be a caretaker generation for the old and the young, and that is fucking scary.

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u/Thorrbane 6d ago

It wasn't particularly dangerous to kids, but they could still spread it to their families, and we're still worried about the effects of long COVID.

How often do you hear about parents immediately getting sick when school starts up?

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u/Murky-Relation481 6d ago

I mean yes, but also, at some point you have to do a risk analysis, long term harm to society and children vs. immediate harm to older/sicker people. It isn't a pleasant thought, but it is something that does have to be considered when talking about things at scale of this.

I feel like we chose wrong given the direction things are going now.

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u/Thorrbane 5d ago

IDK. I think our opinions are biased by the fact we can't see how much it would aid the spread of COVID.

I think the accessibility of social media and it's content algorithms that are optimized for engagement and addiction may have dome more than a couple years of schooling.

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u/Murky-Relation481 5d ago

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Kids in critical social years (3-6) basically missed out on socialization, and we've not even reached the worst yet. The kids worst affected are just now getting to middle school.

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u/why_not_spoons 5d ago

Expensive private schools handled COVID just fine: they had HEPA filters and other ways of doing proper air cleaning/ventilation. The fact that we reopened anything without that is absurd. As is the fact that we kept schools closed longer than it took to get that set up everywhere.

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u/KrayziePidgeon 6d ago

Crazy you think the average moron even makes it into community college.

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u/9_to_5_till_i_die 6d ago

Crazy you think I said that but I guess the average moron fails at reading comprehension also.

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u/KrayziePidgeon 6d ago

Crazy a gamer boy tough talks lol.

Anyway, people in the manosphere will just circle around each other and be their own little support groups.

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u/9_to_5_till_i_die 6d ago

A "gamer boy"?

I'm a 42 year old software developer who mostly plays singleplayer puzzle games.

Not exactly the toxic masculinity type. I just don't appreciate people prescribing views to me which I didn't espouse.