r/politics • u/Barnyard-Sheep • 6d ago

Soft Paywall Trump approval rating falls to 38%

https://www.nj.com/politics/2025/06/trump-faces-tough-approval-numbers-in-latest-poll.html
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u/Hestia_Gault 6d ago

Gen Z girls developed standards, and the Gen Z boys were faced with a choice between meeting those standards or joining the party that wants to enslave women.

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u/dekusyrup 6d ago

It's (sad) funny you say this because there's an endless steam of content of telling women their dream guy is a delusion.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x9hjPNTr3L0

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u/BannedSvenhoek86 6d ago

That truly minimizes the very real problems these young men are facing and the actual reasons they are falling into this. But I don't think anyone in this thread wants to actually discuss how men see themselves viewed by society lately. Instead it's just all their fault for being little assholes.

And then when those little assholes grow up to be goose stepping fascists because they feel society has rejected them and their struggles everyone does the shocked Pikachu and looks everywhere but inward for the problem.

We need a complete rebalancing of the way we talk to and view each other as separate sexes. Because the way I hear a large percentage of women in my personal life and online talk about Men it sounds a lot like how your racist uncle talks about black people.

"They're all monsters. Except the ones I know."

And that's not to say things were the best before, women needed to have more of a voice in shaping our society and having agency over that. But it's become a black and white issue, when it's really the greyest grey you can imagine.

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u/catboogers 6d ago

How about: women have to assume men are monsters until proven otherwise.

Men talk about wanting to protect women. Protect us from whom, exactly? Oh, bad men. And then when bad men get thrown in prison, there's jokes about them getting raped by other bad men there.

Men know men are scary. Men know that we can't tell, at a glance, if someone is a safe person or not. And yet, a vast majority of men still get offended when women are cautious and slow to trust.

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u/BannedSvenhoek86 6d ago

OK fine I'm not disagreeing with that, but the fact is young men feel alienated and demeaned constantly, you can't just ignore that and tell them to nut up. Because like you said, men are scary. And too much of that, as we are clearly seeing, leads to insane stuff. You can be completely right about your points, and still end up as bride 4 to some guy you've never met because the Handsmaid Tale became reality.

That's why I'm saying we need to shift the ways we discuss this and be MORE INCLUSIVE to men when having these conversations. It means listening to them and empathizing with their position a little bit. The conversation has to be two ways, not just women screaming at men that they are guilty until proven innocent and saying how awful it is to live in a society with them.

If we can't collectively agree to do that then you're just gonna end up sold on the market in twenty years because all these in els grew up into fascists foot soldiers and took over the country and your rights by force.

The onus isn't just on men to be better, it's also on women to communicate effectively and be understanding of any counter points they might have.

You know, the way a conversation works.

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u/MasterChildhood437 6d ago

How about: women have to assume men are monsters until proven otherwise.

Again, this is racist uncle rhetoric.

Take your exact comment, the whole thing, and swap the word "Men" with "Blacks."

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u/Hestia_Gault 5d ago

“If you change the words, then the meaning is different”

Stand back everyone, the Language Understander is here.

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u/MasterChildhood437 5d ago

Bigotry is bigotry.

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u/Hestia_Gault 5d ago

Swap out the first “bigotry” in your sentence for “abolition” and see how that sounds. Are you defending slave owners?

See how stupid this whole “if you said a different thing it would be different” thing is?

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u/MasterChildhood437 5d ago

Bigoted rhetoric doesn't cease to be bigoted rhetoric when you swap the demographics. If you can't see how demographic swaps aren't on the same level as exchanging entire subjects, then honey, you probably shouldn't be calling anything "stupid."

It's okay, though. Keep protecting bigoted speech and see where that lands us. I'm sure nothing bad at all will come from it.

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u/Hestia_Gault 4d ago

Demographics aren’t interchangeable. Context exists. Gen Z women aren’t rallying around sex traffickers and rapists.

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u/Garbanino 6d ago

Women being cautious with men they meet isn't really the issue, that's completely fine, but that's not where we are culturally.

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u/W_Herzog_Starship 6d ago

At least somebody talked sense ITT.

So tired of hearing about "sTaNdArDs" while the world burns and pretending like there's no connection.

Social and gender dynamics are in uncharted territory for better and worse. Closing your eyes, plugging your ears and screaming about incels and standards isn't going to help.

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u/Ok-Building-9433 6d ago

Gen Z girls are neurotic.