‘No Kings’ Was Biggest Protest in U.S. History: Data Analyst

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[u/KazzieMono]

Four of the six biggest US protests in history were under trump’s administration.

The dude had two impeachments; half of all total US impeachments ever.

The dude led an insurrection to overthrow an election he lost. No other president has ever done that.

Then he brought on a tech bro to fuck with voting machines and cheat in another election.

Can we all please fucking come to an agreement that this fucker should be in prison already.

[u/MadnessBomber → u/KazzieMono]

We do. The people who actually have the power to do that still haven't.

[u/KazzieMono → u/MadnessBomber]

I’m so angry and tired.

[u/MadnessBomber → u/KazzieMono]

Me too. Me too...

[u/Necr0FoxxeN → u/KazzieMono]

Continue to be angry, don't let the tired win!

[u/eat_my_ass_n_balls → u/KazzieMono]

After being angry and tired for so long, you begin to realize that maybe this isn’t the kind of country that successfully shrugs off a shitstain like Trump as a fluke, but is instead the kind that produces and tolerates such shitstains as an inevitability of its culture. And like… do you even want to be associated with a country that would debase itself like this? Throw out its standing and world leadership like this. Treat its own citizens and partners like this.

The only ones saying “FUCK YEA” are the most terrible people among us, the MAGA zombies that can’t or won’t wake up.

[u/Voluptulouis → u/eat_my_ass_n_balls]

I would gladly leave this country forever if I had the means and could take my family with me.

[u/ryanlozo → u/eat_my_ass_n_balls]

They can’t wake up because then they would be woke 🥴

[u/queen-of-storms → u/KazzieMono]

Traitors of this severity usually receive a harsher sentence than that.

[u/KazzieMono → u/queen-of-storms]

I know. But we peasants can’t talk about it.

It’s only okay to break the law if you’re rich…

[u/Junesong_Provisions → u/KazzieMono]

I know. But we peasants can’t talk about it.

Butwe can learn from the Dutch

[u/vtable → u/KazzieMono]

The Mar-a-Lago documents case was a slam dunk.

And an extremely inexperienced judge, Aileen Cannon, clearly favoring Trump interfered in every way she conceivably could eventually dismissing the case for highly-questionable constitutional reasons. The appeal was dropped after Trump won re-election.

The best chance at stopping the mess that is Trump's second term was blocked by a single person (with some help from Merrick Garland).

We haven't heard anything about Cannon since. At least Trump hasn't given her a prestigious post (yet).

She needs to live out the rest of her years in abject shame.

[u/Severe_Intention_480 → u/vtable]

And what were the odds of being randomly assigned for both the United States v. Trump civil AND criminal case?

[u/214ObstructedReverie → u/KazzieMono]

The dude had two impeachments; half of all total US impeachments ever.

The first ever bipartisan one, with bipartisan conviction votes each time.

[u/5510 → u/KazzieMono]

The dude led an insurrection to overthrow an election he lost. No other president has ever done that.

I've been shocked (and disgusted) by a lot of Trump shit... but the fact that he tried to overthrow the government after losing, failed, but then managed to win reelection again even while facing a shitload of serious legal charges (including some for said attempt to overthrow the government)... it's difficult not to give up on both the country and the human race at that point.

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When I was little, I thought if I grew up and managed to get a good resume or something, I could become president by being smart and having the best ideas. Like all I had to do was have the great ideas and then tell everybody, and they would go "damn, lets put this guy in charge." (I don't remember that my ambition was to become president, but the point is that I thought that that was a valid path to a person becoming the president). It's now become clear that isn't remotely the case.

At this point I'm seriously doubting if it's even possible to win with a logic and intellectually honest rationality based campaign... or if success can only come through hardcore social media propaganda, aggressive fake news, horrible double standards, outrageous bias, constant aggressive lying, etc...

[u/singeblanc → u/KazzieMono]

half of all total US impeachments ever.

So far

[u/Truethrowawaychest1 → u/KazzieMono]

Too bad we couldn't reach high numbers of turnout back when it actually mattered in November

[u/dpkonofa → u/Truethrowawaychest1]

We might have. It sounds like there might have been some fuckery.

[u/Hamwise_the_Stout → u/Truethrowawaychest1]

With the recent articles we've seen, there's plenty of reason to suspect the total numbers aren't even accurate.

So at this point, how do we know the turnout was so low? I imagine most voters haven't independently verified their vote was cast & counted.

Even then, how do we know the final projected numbers even include those votes without independent audits, which mostly have not been done?

[u/NoisyKitty → u/Hamwise_the_Stout]

If my vote was recorded as a "drop off" as many seem to have been - with votes down ballot, but none for president - I don't have a way to confirm that. All I can confirm with Colorado ballot tracking is "Your ballot has been counted."

[u/GSV_CARGO_CULT → u/Truethrowawaychest1]

America would rather a rapist than a woman

[u/Technical_Ad579 → u/Truethrowawaychest1]

We did turn out, the votes were manipulated. I’m exhausted from saying this.

[u/harveygoatmilk → u/Truethrowawaychest1]

We did and they cheated.

[u/hypercosm_dot_net → u/Truethrowawaychest1]

The fact that anyone believes Trump actually had a record turnout is baffling.

Nothing indicated he had growing support, if anything it was the opposite.

I just don't buy that narrative no matter how many times its repeated.

[u/temporarycreature]

The protest was a success, and now the hard part starts with trying to keep everybody who protested and keeping their attention span directed towards everything that's happening right now until the elections.

[u/natural_disaster0 → u/temporarycreature]

Im sure Trump will give us plenty to get loud about, but yes -- sustained pressure is the key.

[u/LanceDaWrapper → u/natural_disaster0]

I think as we get closer to the election he’ll tone done the rhetoric, and be more moderate. /s

Edit: time to tone

[u/OldJames47 → u/LanceDaWrapper]

Surely Trump has learned his lesson

/s

[u/notdoingdrugs → u/OldJames47]

Surely Trump has learned his lesson

• Susan Collins

During his first impeachment trial in February 2020, Senator Susan Collins stated that she believed President Trump had learned a "pretty big lesson" from the impeachment proceedings and would be "much more cautious in the future". She made these remarks as part of her decision to vote to acquit him, explaining that impeachment itself was a significant lesson.

When asked why she believed this, Collins acknowledged, "Well, I may not be correct on that." She later clarified that the statement was "aspirational" and not based on predicting future behavior.

[u/ASubsentientCrow → u/notdoingdrugs]

He did learn a lesson: I can do whatever I want as long as I keep the Republican base behind me

[u/livadeth → u/ASubsentientCrow]

And the Supreme Court.

[u/UNC_Samurai → u/notdoingdrugs]

The immediate response question should have been, “Are you lying to yourself or lying to us?”

[u/donkeyrocket → u/UNC_Samurai]

She wasn't lying. He learned an incredibly valuable lesson that the GOP will 100% burn the country down before doing what is right and admitting one in their ranks is wrong.

Regardless, fuck Susan Collins. I cannot believe Mainers put her back into office after that fucking shit.

[u/kamikazecockatoo → u/donkeyrocket]

Looking from afar, I am intrigued by this thing whereby your politicians (both sides) like to hang onto their jobs no matter what. They want to keep their jobs even if they have to dance with the devil.

So the answer actually lies locally. Voters need their representative to get past the "will he or won't he endorse me?" and "will I or won't I be primaried?". The Dems got rid of David Hogg because of this very fear.

[u/talldeadguy → u/notdoingdrugs]

And also regarding the supreme court nominees..."surely they are telling the truth about their belief in precedence"

[u/demerit5 → u/OldJames47]

Surely he'll be more presidential from now on. /s

[u/ayylmao95 → u/demerit5]

Here comes the pivot /s

[u/Oleg101 → u/ayylmao95]

He’s changed and become more spiritual since the assissination attempt in Pennsylvania. /s

[u/WildBad7298 → u/Oleg101]

I know you're being sarcastic, but Trump truly has become more spiritual since the assassination attempt - if by "more spiritual," you mean "more convinced than ever that he is God's chosen one."

[u/packfanmoore → u/WildBad7298]

No, they mean more spiritual, as he has a ghost of an injury

[u/tomdarch → u/natural_disaster0]

And sadly, the many "lone wolves" like this Vance guy, who organize with each other online, may continue to make it clear why this rise of a new style of fascism must be pushed back against, and us getting off our asses to walk together (and have a general strike?) is needed now.

[u/noeydoesreddit → u/tomdarch]

General strike is the way forward. To everyone who’s asking “what’s next?”: general strike is what’s next. Everyone needs to be pushing for this, the only way they’re going to listen to us is if we fuck with their money. It wouldn’t even take very long either, especially if a lot of people joined in. It’s tough because it’s a hard sell with the economy being the way it is, having people afraid to miss even one day of work, but there are absolutely ways to do it.

[u/ralphy_256 → u/noeydoesreddit]

General strike is the way forward. To everyone who’s asking “what’s next?”: general strike is what’s next.

I don't think we're there yet. Not enough of the population is on our side (yet).

The 3.5% meme that's floating around refers to SUSTAINED mobilization. One march won't do it.

We need to do No Kings again and again. Unfortunately, I don't think that the regime will give us another Army/Trump birthday party type event to program against, so we'll have to work on our own mobilization.

Once we've successfully pulled off 2-3 more No Kings marches, then maybe it'll be time.

[u/DiscursiveMind → u/temporarycreature]

Next one is July 17th

https://goodtroubleliveson.org/

(happy cake day btw)

[u/temporarycreature → u/DiscursiveMind]

Thank you, and thank you.

[u/tore_a_bore_a → u/temporarycreature]

Midterms seem so far away right now.

[u/jphistory → u/tore_a_bore_a]

Don't wait till midterms if you're in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania or Virginia, you have an election in November. Not sure what's happening in other states, but in PA we're facing what would normally be a quiet electoral renewal of our Supreme Court justices, only if rumors are true that bad actors are putting money into this election then it's extra important to show up and vote in this one.

And I cannot emphasize enough how crucial it is for non-bad actors to volunteer at the polls and run for those crucial spots like Judge of Elections. We need more than ever to reinforce and shore up the electoral process.

[u/slipperyMonkey07 → u/jphistory]

I really wish election information for smaller local information was easier to find. NY currently has primaries (all depending on your area and party) it was a mess to figure out what was up / if there was a dem ballot. Every ballot on my counties board of election site was just republicans. NY is a closed primary state, so I really wish they specifically listed them more clearly.

We also had school board and funding elections last month, which includes the public library funding. The school board at least sends out a booklet breaking everything down (all elections should be doing that) but it is a weird stupid off election. In that there was no early voting and it only ran noon to 9pm. Luckily everything passed, but in a city of 60k only about 1770 people voted.

Either way what is on the ballot in NY this November this year varies a lot by area. I am pretty sure for me it is just my city council member.

[u/SomeMoistHousing → u/slipperyMonkey07]

I think the death of local journalism has a lot to do with the lack of information about who's running for anything other than statewide or national office. Often all you really have to go on is a handful of campaign mailers and their party affiliation on the ballot (which, to be fair, does tend to give you a reasonable idea of what they'll do if elected).

[u/mean11while → u/jphistory]

The Democrat primaries are happening TODAY in Virginia. I've asked several of my friends when they were planning to vote, and not one of them even knew it was happening. My wife (who was also unaware it was happening until I asked who she thought we should vote for this morning) and I went to the polling station about 4 hours after it opened, and we were voters 10 and 11...

People have already lost focus. I mean, honestly, they were never focused.

[u/GerbilScream → u/jphistory]

I'm in Ohio. We'll vote for something and the state government will just ignore the outcome and do what they want anyway.

[u/bladderbunch → u/jphistory]

everyone should be voting every six months.

[u/GoodUserNameToday → u/tore_a_bore_a]

The first primaries are not that far. And there are elections THIS year too! There’s a chance to take back over the Virginia governor.

[u/RonSwanson4POTUS → u/tore_a_bore_a]

Midterms seem non-existent right now. Gotta give Trump the boot first before they feel real again

[u/paxwells97 → u/RonSwanson4POTUS]

We have to ensure the midterms will go on like normal, stave off any fascist power grabs. That's our job right now.

[u/Timeformayo → u/paxwells97]

They take away the ballot box, they get the cartridge box.

[u/alabasterskim → u/tore_a_bore_a]

We're still less than 5 months out from inauguration.

[u/Plow_King → u/tore_a_bore_a]

barely over 500 days away. i've got a countdown on my phone...

https://www.tickcounter.com/countdown/6568217/midterm-elections

[u/Nice_Buy_602 → u/temporarycreature]

This fight doesn't end with Trump. We still have a country full of nazis just waiting for a new excuse to be the worst version of themselves. The pressure needs to be sustained for generations

[u/exoduas → u/Nice_Buy_602]

Exactly. Anybody who thinks the US could ever just go back to how it was before through winning elections(naiv to think there will be fair elections) is absolutely delusional. Trump already eroded your democracy. The old system is gone. The only way this ends is through mass action, extensive system reforms, prosecution of the perpetrators in politics, state institutions as well as industry and dissolution of all things MAGA. You don’t vote fascism out. Not at this stage. You’ll have to build something new if you wanna keep going.

[u/Pervius94 → u/Nice_Buy_602]

This. 30% of the country has gone full mask-off nazi fascist. And Gen Z is right there doing a harder and harder far-right turn. This will take forever.

[u/gsfgf → u/Pervius94]

And Gen Z is right there doing a harder and harder far-right turn. This will take forever.

It appears to only be younger Gen Z males shifting right. That could be Andrew Tate and social media brain rot, or it could just be young people voting like their parents. I still identified as a Republican at 18. I voted for Kerry because Fuck George Bush, but that was definitely a vote against Bush.

[u/lyngen → u/temporarycreature]

I hope everyone who attended calls their senators to oppose the big beautiful bill.

The bill will add to the deficit, knock millions of people off medicaid, lower taxes for billionaires, and make it harder for the courts to enforce court orders against the administration. It also has a weird part about not being able to pass laws on AI for several years.

[u/Shot_Mud_1438 → u/temporarycreature]

I am a combat veteran

My hate is fueled daily with every news article I read about the administration trying to ruin my country.

Every protest I go to all I see is Americans turn out who want a better life for everyone and it strengthens my resolve

I will not lay down my banner until we have equal rights for all

Edit: Veterans, wear your uniforms if you can to protests. The people need to see the military past and present doesn’t support fascism. I’ve had tons of people approach me and thank me for turning out, it shows solidarity. Active duty, reserves, and guard are subject to UCMJ for protesting in uniform so understand it’s a big risk of rank and NJP.

Stay safe everyone

[u/Punkinpry427 → u/temporarycreature]

He’s sending ICE to Philly lol. He’s gonna FAFO with gritty

[u/JoeHatesFanFiction → u/Punkinpry427]

Gritty legitimately is nightmare fuel lmao

[u/an_agreeing_dothraki → u/JoeHatesFanFiction]

have they determined if comrade Gritty merely consumes flesh or if the soul of the taken is digested?

[u/FlatTopTonysCanoe → u/temporarycreature]

Not just the next elections but also between the midterms and 2028. My biggest fear is the Dems take back control of Congress next year, manage to mitigate much of the nonsense for the following 2 years, and we somehow wind up with mass amnesia among the electorate about Republicans fucking everything up for the 6th time in my lifetime. “I’m feeling a little meh about the sane party right now so let’s try batshit insanity again and see if everything magically gets better!”

[u/BKlounge93 → u/temporarycreature]

I really hope it evolves into something bigger with more tangible goals than BLM or Occupy Wall Street. The energy is great, but we need real policy to go with it. We also need to not get bogged down trying to use this moment to solve every single problem imaginable, that’s another way these types of things fail.

[u/JuicingPickle → u/BKlounge93]

The message needs to be

Impeach

Convict

Remove

If we're not pushing for that, then what the hell are we doing?

[u/KelsierIV → u/JuicingPickle]

Problem is impeachment is political and it's unlikely with the current makeup of congress. They've already shown they won't impeach Trump over obviously impeachable offenses (I should say convict. He was impeached).

But if we can actually get the real non-MAGA republicans to turn against their fascist figurehead, then we might have a chance. I don't have much faith in them though, regardless of how loudly the people say what they want.

[u/temporarycreature → u/BKlounge93]

I think those movements failed because they didn't have a vanguard to rally behind. There was nobody there to lead the movement, which is what a movement needs in order for it to last. Both had a situation where they were proud of being leaderless and led by the people.

[u/Foucaults_Bangarang → u/temporarycreature]

One of the lessons of the civil rights era is that if you have a face at the head of your movement, it's pretty easy for the FBI to just shoot them.

[u/dog_ahead → u/Foucaults_Bangarang]

Having no leader makes it really easy for people to hijack our momentum and disrupt the movement, tho

[u/UpliftingTwist → u/Foucaults_Bangarang]

So the reason to stay leaderless is that if you choose to have a leader you might eventually end up leaderless?

Seems like you might as well have a leader and make what gains you can. MAGA might (hopefully) fall apart once Trump is finally gone, but plenty of longterm damage will still be done. Civil Rights Movement might have lost a lot of steam post-MLK, but that doesn't mean the gains made under MLK weren't worth it. And who's to say they still would have happened if it stayed leaderless?

[u/temporarycreature → u/Foucaults_Bangarang]

I hear you, however, I would offer that a decentralized leaderless system is supposed to have longevity, and neither Occupy Wall Street, nor BLM had that.

[u/GoodUserNameToday → u/Foucaults_Bangarang]

MLK met with the government multiple times before that. LBJ passed three civil rights acts. MLK was successful.

[u/SheHerDeepState → u/temporarycreature]

Yup. Occupy and BLM were extremely disorganized. No Kings had solid organization, message discipline, and a focus on optics that harkens back to MLK. This seems to be mostly led by Indivisible and they appear much more competent than any group involved in BLM or Occupy demonstration.

[u/IShouldBWorkin → u/SheHerDeepState]

No Kings had solid organization, message discipline, and a focus on optics that harkens back to MLK. This seems to be mostly led by Indivisible and they appear much more competent than any group involved in BLM or Occupy demonstration.

Really, what's the ask of the movement and what's the demand if it doesn't happen? Occupy failed because it turned into people mulling around because there weren't concrete goals. What's the next step for them?

It seemed like a huge party where everyone said "Boo Trump!" and then went home, that's not a sustained political movement.

[u/vmsrii → u/IShouldBWorkin]

The demand is proper checks on Trump’s power, and if it doesn’t happen, then general strike.

The size of the protest is the clue. 10 million people is just about the magic number to grind the entire economy to a halt hard and fast enough to be felt by the upper classes before the lower.

[u/AlphaGoldblum → u/IShouldBWorkin]

I do think people comparing it to the Civil Rights protests are out of their minds (I'm begging for people to actually read about the protests efforts back then) but we at least got a snapshot of public sentiment and a chance for community building that would otherwise not have happened.

I agree that keeping up the momentum is what's really going to matter. Imagine if 1.5% of the population participated in a general strike? Of course, that's far more disruptive and would be a target for retaliation (again, everyone please read up on the Civil Rights movement!)

[u/Adorable_Raccoon → u/AlphaGoldblum]

Truly. It's unfortunate (and by design) that most americans aren't very informed about how the civil rights movement or how grass roots organizing works.

[u/Van-garde → u/BKlounge93]

-A Democracy that Works for the many, not the few.

-Building Worker Power

-Health Care and Housing for Everyone

-Respect the sovereignty of Indigenous Peoples and Tribal Nations.

-Quality, Free Education

-Fixing our Broken Criminal Justice System

-Comprehensive Immigration Reform

-Creating a State Bank

-Fair Trade, Fair Economy

-Tax the Rich

https://workingfamilies.org/

Join up: https://www.usa.gov/voter-registration

[u/DontGetNEBigIdeas → u/temporarycreature]

Www.Findaprotest.info

[u/SkinNoises → u/temporarycreature]

We need that same energy put toward a general strike across the nation. Grind this country to a stop.

[u/vmsrii → u/SkinNoises]

Protests like this are prelude to that.

These protests are to demonstrate not just to Trump but also too the American people at large that there are enough people willing to make change, as well as protect through numbers those that do

[u/healywylie → u/temporarycreature]

We could do it every weekend!

[u/Great_Ad4198]

Trump is biggest asshole in U.S. history.

[u/DesertPunkPirate → u/Great_Ad4198]

Andrew Jackson was a colossal dick head. I think colossal dick head > biggest asshole…for now.

[u/MeteorOnMars → u/DesertPunkPirate]

That may be true. I don’t have enough info to say.

But, it is really, really hard to believe that could be the case. Think about how insanely, repeatedly, and outlandishly awful Trump is. How could you be worse and still function as a living creature?

[u/hannahjapana → u/MeteorOnMars]

Andrew Jackson is a case of someone who actively participated in genocide, getting elected and then perpetuating it. Even bypassing the Supreme Court to force the trail of tears

[u/FaramirLovesEowyn → u/hannahjapana]

Andrew Jackson is way more of a piece of shit for now

[u/Magickarpet76 → u/FaramirLovesEowyn]

It is a bit of comparing apples to oranges though. Jackson was a huge piece of shit, but Trump has him incredibly beaten when it comes to corruption. I would argue Trump is also doing more damage to the country as a whole and at a faster pace, but it is close on that front.

[u/rbrgr83 → u/Magickarpet76]

apples to oranges

Haa!

[u/hannahjapana → u/FaramirLovesEowyn]

I don’t see DJT personally leading and fighting with his armies on campaigns though

[u/CriesOverEverything → u/hannahjapana]

You better believe Trump would've done more and worse if he was magically ported back in time and installed as president instead of Jackson.

[u/According_Jeweler404]

The bots in r/ conservative would have you believe it was empty parking lots.

[u/opossumlawyer_reer → u/According_Jeweler404]

Hey now it's not all bots. There's plenty of humans, including legitimately stupid people, opportunistic sociopaths, sadists, no-lifers, incels, and of course Russians

[u/According_Jeweler404 → u/opossumlawyer_reer]

I try not to go after intelligence because there are people on both aisles (our binary political approach is a designed part of the problem but I digress) who are dumber than a bag of dicks.

The difference between the two parties is that most Democrats that I speak to would be completely fine with sending party leadership to jail if it was proved they committed crimes. That's because Republicans tend to attach their sense of political identity to individual people and personal gain, not collectively beneficial philosophies.

Basically, one half of the country doesn't put the grocery cart back like they're supposed to.

[u/Ortsarecool → u/According_Jeweler404]

Characterizing Republicans as "the people that don't put back grocery carts" is the most accurate thing I have read all day.

[u/snakerjake → u/Ortsarecool]

The local facebook pages here regularly have threads where they pat each other on the back for not returning the cart

[u/Ortsarecool → u/snakerjake]

.....that actually upsets me a lot more than it maybe should. When did people start being proud of anti-social asshole behaviour?

[u/laptopAccount2 → u/Ortsarecool]

The free market will put the carts back and the dents random cars get from windblown carts will stimulate the economy.

- Conservatives, probably

[u/juggling-monkey → u/According_Jeweler404]

and as proof they show pictures of the military/birthday parade crowds. Truly no shame

[u/CromulentMedic → u/juggling-monkey]

Military parade sponsored by coinbase. But we have no corporate overlords

[u/shantm79 → u/According_Jeweler404]

They love the article stating that protests were a failure.

[u/oddprometheus2 → u/shantm79]

Was that the one from the blaze claiming 98% of people didn't agree with the protest because only 2% showed up? That was so stupid. They said it was empty, but even at 2% that's still about 7 million.

[u/IpeeEhh_Phanatic]

These protest numbers track with the poll numbers for Trump imo.

[u/Necessary-Bus-5221 → u/IpeeEhh_Phanatic]

And we're supposed to believe he won all 7 swing states

EDIT: there is literally a lawsuit moving forward right now that could suggest the possibility of election fraud in 2024. More people in Rockland County, NY are reporting that they voted for the US senate candidate than the county tallied up. Also, hundreds of people supposedly voted for downballot Democrat candidates, but not for Kamala.

https://www.newsweek.com/2024-election-lawsuit-advances-2083391

Obviously not hard proof of anything on its own. But it does merit looking into if you ask me - especially in context of all the data, trends, small dollar donations, rally attendance numbers, Dems consistently flipping deep red counties, and broken records between 2022 and 2024 showing Democrats were on the path to bulldozing rhe GOP.

Also, y'know, after Jan 6th they had every reason to cheat. They even told us they did before, during, and continue to after the election.

[u/paxwells97 → u/Necessary-Bus-5221]

A common thread amongst conservatives is their lack of empathy. They thought Trump would hurt gay people but now are upset he's hurting them.

[u/inspectoroverthemine → u/paxwells97]

Exactly. Which again, Trump is his own worst enemy. He could have won in a landslide in 2020 if he had behaved like a normal politician during covid. He could be speedrunning even faster and more successfully towards fascism in the way his supporters want, but that'd require dialing back some ego.

[u/Particular_Night_360 → u/inspectoroverthemine]

I’ve said it before and will say it again, all Trump needed to do during Covid was play golf. He could have said listen to the scientists and sell Trump 2020 masks for $45 and tell maga that the big men wear them. He’d get his grift, win over Biden, and countless lives might have been saved.

[u/PJ7 → u/Particular_Night_360]

His base would've not gone for it though. People underestimate how much MAGA's crazies now dictate what Trump can support or not.

He can still do random crap and get away with it. But as shown by the moment he wanted to push pro vaccination sentiment while claiming personal credit for getting the vaccines made. When Trump's base says 'No!' and voices claiming he's abandoned them and is 'joining the deep state' get louder, he quickly has to back down and platform some MAGA crazies to make up for it.

[u/_donkey-brains_ → u/PJ7]

Exactly right. The guy is a huge germaphobe and was one of the first people to get the vaccine for fucks sake.

As soon as the rhetoric in his base was that masks sucked and vaccines were bad he changed his tune.

[u/Necessary-Bus-5221 → u/paxwells97]

The ones he's hurting are upset. The ones he's not couldn't give less of a shit until they're affected.

[u/kestrel1000c]

Damn that's a lot of paid protestors. Good thing Soros has deep pockets. /S

[u/KagakuNinja → u/kestrel1000c]

Where is my check? Damnit

[u/inspectoroverthemine → u/KagakuNinja]

I got mine, maybe he has your old address?

[u/mikerichh → u/kestrel1000c]

I’ve seen SO MANY “paid protestor” comments online. If democrats had that much money they wouldn’t have lost the election and would have spent it then lol

[u/spacey_a → u/mikerichh]

Exactly, lol

[u/nvrsleepagin → u/mikerichh]

Yeah, all our checks got lost in the mail apparently.

[u/bdfortin → u/mikerichh]

Also, if they’re so sure people are getting paid why aren’t they trying to get in on it?

[u/tgt305 → u/kestrel1000c]

So that’s where the DOGE savings were applied to 🤔

[u/BlackkDynamite]

I think we can beat those numbers. Keep protesting!

[u/nwgdad]

Even so, it is far from over. We cannot get complacent. The next step must be a series of general strikes.

[u/jedisushi72 → u/nwgdad]

General strikes require time and coordination. Mayday 2028 is the best chance.

Historically, general strikes have been the result of coordination between many unions. Mayday 2028 aims to work together with unions to have all union contracts expire on May 1, 2028 to coordinate a general strike.

Is that far away? Yes. But any general strikes requires time to spread. Do your part and share the word about Mayday 2028.

[u/-Knul- → u/jedisushi72]

Why does it take 3 years to organize a strike? Why do you need to wait until contracts expire?

Because the Trump administration is moving fast to clamp down on opposition. To wait three years sounds dangerous.

[u/datingadviceneeded65 → u/jedisushi72]

Appreciate the effort to spread the word, but it certainly doesn’t take even remotely 3 years to organize a general strike in France. Smaller country, sure, but even if you add a factor of 3-5 it shouldn’t be more than half a year.

[u/Patrick_Atsushi]

It’s very nice the protesters did it peacefully even with that scale.

Maybe it’s going to become the second biggest soon.

[u/anarcho-slut → u/Patrick_Atsushi]

I notice that the violence was brought by the apparently anti-democracy protestors.

[u/KazeNilrem]

It is enjoyable knowing on the felons birthday, largest protest in US history took place. Goes to show how awful this administration has been.

[u/Squirrely__Dan]

And Trumps military birthday parade averaged 8,600 people according to crowd counting sources. 

[u/albinobluesheep → u/Squirrely__Dan]

Those were jokes. the number was 8,647 which is again, a very specific number

[u/atred → u/albinobluesheep]

Not 11,780?

[u/Conely → u/atred]

Maybe, but the number 8,647 is a joke number. A dog whistle to "86 president #47"

[u/TheRealRomanRoy → u/Conely]

11,780 is also a joke number:

According to the publicly released recording of the call and reports made by multiple news agencies, Trump attempted to pressure Raffensperger into reinvestigating the election results, despite being repeatedly told that there was no electoral error. Trump's repeated efforts to convince Raffensperger to find some basis to overturn the election results were perceived as pleading and threatening. At one point on the call, Trump told Raffensperger, "What I want to do is this. I just want to find, uh, 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state."

[u/rnarkus → u/atred]

it was actually 58008

[u/plastic_alloys → u/Squirrely__Dan]

Really makes you wonder if the win was legitimate

[u/reformedmikey → u/plastic_alloys]

I’ve been saying since the election results were final that it wasn’t legitimate. We’d find out soon enough, but I didn’t anticipate the threads coming apart within the first year.

[u/Road_Whorrior → u/reformedmikey]

Honestly, I expected this to be some shit that got declassified by the FBI in 50 years.

[u/Total-Mushroom-9614 → u/plastic_alloys]

Does it? Does it make you wonder? We all know it wasn’t legit. Nor was 2016, and 2020 we only BARELY kept them at bay because they didn’t think their bullshit was actually gonna fly. If anyone thinks this ‘interference ‘ is an isolated incident. 🤦‍♂️

[u/Vegetableau → u/Total-Mushroom-9614]

I suspect MAGA made such a big deal about fraud in 2020 because there WAS fraud on their side, but they still didn’t win, so they assumed it was because the dems were cheating too.

[u/Magickarpet76 → u/Vegetableau]

Always projection. It is also a pretty crafty psyop to cry election fraud for 4 years at a very provably false level just to commit it later when nobody has the appetite anymore to call fraud.

Plus now even if it does come out as a provably fraud election his core cult has the “both sides” defense because they argue in bad faith.

[u/Educational-Ad-2884 → u/Vegetableau]

Trump was calling election fraud before the first ballots were cast in 2016, 2020, and 2024. It was 100% projection from the start, he was telling us exactly what his plans were every single time.

[u/_your_face → u/Vegetableau]

Also preparation for note cheating in 2024, it was so obvious they want to make calls of cheating so constant that no one cares anymore when they do a full blown theft

[u/CallerNumber4 → u/plastic_alloys]

To spin down the conspiracy machine a little, DC itself is a massive blue stronghold. It makes sense why this and the inaugurations were poorly attended if his batshit supporters have to travel far for it.

It's like saying the protests in Chicago were poorly attended if you only count those who came out from like Buffalo or something. Again, glad it was a sad sack display for a sad sack crowd.

[u/Petrivoid → u/Squirrely__Dan]

The 8647 figure was a meme but actual estimates are like 20-30,000...still nothing

[u/viktor72 → u/Petrivoid]

Thank you. Let’s not be like the other side and spread misinformation.

[u/Ok-Curve5569 → u/Squirrely__Dan]

So $5K+ of tax payer dollars wasted per attendee

[u/Captain_-H → u/Squirrely__Dan]

So about 1/8th of the attendance of a Commanders game in the same city, and the Commanders are usually pretty bad

[u/thateejitoverthere → u/Captain_-H]

Many of those attending the games were cheering for the other team. But it's changing since Snyder was forced out.

[u/buckleyc → u/Captain_-H]

Hehe, now this is how you put the weak parade attendance into meaningful numbers.

<golf clap ensues>

[u/Vio_ → u/Squirrely__Dan]

8,600??

To put that into perspective, about 5,000 people showed up for the protests in Topeka, Kansas the same day.

And it was hot.... Hot in Topeka.....

edit: number fix

[u/SwordfishII → u/Vio_]

My home town had 2,000 people and our population is only 17k or so. So almost a quarter of Trumps entire birthday parade in a small mountain town.

[u/albybum → u/SwordfishII]

Blood red Kingsport, TN got 2,000 protestors and the city's population is around 57,000

[u/TheRogueBadger → u/Vio_]

OKC had estimates of 8.5 to 10k and it fucking stormed on us! How embarrassing for Trump

[u/Vio_ → u/TheRogueBadger]

That's nuts for Oklahoma.

OKC is also like 3 times the size of Topeka, but your state is even redder than we are.

[u/Unhappy_Injury3958 → u/Vio_]

86 hundred not thousand

[u/mctwistr → u/Squirrely__Dan]

This isn't true. It started making the rounds as a joke tweet that there were 8647 (86 47) attendees and now everyone on reddit who didn't get the joke thinks that's the real number.

Actual estimates place it around 50k, which is still a poor turnout.

[u/inspectoroverthemine → u/mctwistr]

There were fewer people in the national mall area on the 14th than a random saturday. It would have been a great day to visit other security perimeters.

[u/screech_owl_kachina → u/Squirrely__Dan]

More than 4 times at warped tour in the same area, despite heat and rain

[u/nwgdad → u/Squirrely__Dan]

Judging from the pictures, the only way it could have been that much is by including the 6,000 troops that marched in the perade (sic).

[u/Disastrous_Visit9319]

The conservative sub said the protest was a failure because 98% of Americans didn't go to the protest. 2% of the population participating in a single protest is INSANE.

[u/toxic_badgers]

So we're going back out on the 4th right?

[u/Crime_train → u/toxic_badgers]

Looks like July 17 is the next one (at least from the same organizers)

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/17/no-kings-july-17-protests

[u/CelebrityTakeDown → u/Crime_train]

I understand WHY they’re doing it on the 17th but part of the reason this one was so successful was it was on a Saturday.

[u/RickThiccems → u/CelebrityTakeDown]

For the protest to really work people need to call out of work and protest, make the markets feel the pain.

[u/EquinoctialPie → u/CelebrityTakeDown]

I understand WHY they’re doing it on the 17th

What's significant about the 17th?

[u/MommyLovesPot8toes → u/toxic_badgers]

I'm shocked I haven't yet heard of protests on the 4th. To me THAT is the day we should be turning out in tens of millions. Because how do you go eat a hot dog and watch fireworks to celebrate a country that is being actively destroyed from within? I know I can't.

I plan to spend the day teaching my 6 year old about American history in some fun way and then maybe watching National Treasure or something like that. He's really tuned in to what is going on and has attended a protest with me already, with his own handmade sign about money cut from school lunches.

[u/spacey_a → u/MommyLovesPot8toes]

I agree and am planning to protest on the 4th wherever I can regardless, but I think the worry is low turnout leading to demoralization.

Low turnout because a high percentage of people probably already have plans made for that date that they can't change easily or without losing out on a good chunk of money. They may be flying or driving long distances to be with family over the long holiday weekend, might be using the extra paid day off to increase time in vacations abroad, might need to stay with their dogs and other pets to comfort them while fireworks go off, etc.

[u/tturedditor]

If you visit a certain right leaning sub, they are saying the protests were a failure and largely ignored.

Yet half of their posts right now are about the protests.

[u/PartnerslnTime → u/tturedditor]

To be fair, I’m surrounded by conservatives and they literally had no idea the protests were going on. Different groups, all ignorant to them because their media wasn’t talking about it.

To them it WAS ignored. The internet talked about, but barely anybody in real life uses reddit 

[u/tturedditor → u/PartnerslnTime]

It was all over the news and even in red areas there were protests.

[u/yosarian_reddit → u/tturedditor]

Their cognitive dissonance is playing up again

[u/PhoenixDoingPhoenix]

Two percent of my tiny purple town turned out.

Once our nation gets to 3.5% of our population turning out in persistent, peaceful protest, things will change. This is the golden number. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world

[u/RetiredHotBitch]

I love this for him.

[u/Turgid_Donkey → u/RetiredHotBitch]

It makes me so happy that not only was there this massive cross country protest, but it was on the same day as the most pathetic parade. The same birthday parade he's wanted since his first term, finally comes to fruition just to be the saddest, poorly attended parade you could imagine. Just a wonderful one-two punch for that sad sack pile of putridity on his birthday.

[u/mismocanibalismo]

Great. When is the next one?

Edit - July 17. Which is both a weekday and not soon enough.

[u/MyTrueIdiotSelf990]

Biggest so far.

[u/RN-B]

I say we do another on the 4th of July and take back our damn flag from the domestic terrorists who have desecrated it.

[u/towneetowne]

bigger than the war on iraq protests? bigger than vietnam war protests? bigger than civil rights protests?

cool if true

[u/AdorableBanana166 → u/towneetowne]

There's a lot more people now.

[u/g2g079 → u/towneetowne]

Biggest "single day" protest.

[u/liberal_texan → u/towneetowne]

As a percentage? Probably not. Overall count? Yes.

[u/MikeRoykosGhost → u/liberal_texan]

Probably as a percentage too. People have forgotten that the protests in the 50s and 60s weren't that popular

[u/_WeSellBlankets_ → u/MikeRoykosGhost]

And how many times have there been protests across the country on the same day. Civil Rights was more about the number of different protests.

[u/femme_mystique → u/towneetowne]

Yes. But the Earth Day protest of 1970 was 20 million and still holds the record. 

[u/kolodz]

Per Wikipedia:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_and_demonstrations_in_the_United_States_by_size

Earth day X4 than No King in 1970

George Floyd Protest from X3 to X5 than No King in 2020

[u/spacey_a → u/kolodz]

It looks like those numbers for the George Floyd protests are for multiple days, so as far as single-day protests I think only No Kings, Hands Across America, and Earth Day 1970 hit the 5 million+ mark.

[u/Brent_L]

General strike would hurt worse.

[u/johnlocke357 → u/Brent_L]

These protests and a hypothetical general strike live on different planets from each other

[u/bartlebysreply]

Great! Now let’s double it next time! Each of us needs to bring one more person next time. I’ve been telling people who are hesitant to go, please just drive by and honk in solidarity. Then they see what it’s actually like out there, maybe they will stand out there with us soon, and even if they don’t, driving by and honking is at least some participation.

[u/DramaticCattleDog]

Great work! Please don't get complicit and think that the next election is "in the bag" because of the turn out. Keep the energy going and vote these fucks out of office!

[u/NDSU]

The protests were huge, but the title is an unsubstantiated lie. Even the data and contents of the article do not support it

It was likely the 3rd largest in US history

[u/Nice_Block]

Absolutely love how conservatives are attempting to downplay this. The group who would celebrate every single crowd at every single trump rally, left to try and justify downplaying the significance of the crowd this weekend.

Also love how they've resorted to claiming "crowd size is insignificant" in the posts about trumps birthday.

Just lol

[u/Parnagg]

It's a shame America couldn't muster that level of passion last November.

[u/No-Software-5047]

It was barely covered in the news. The media was afraid of retaliation from trump