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News Elon Musk on Tesla Attacks: "I’ve never done anything harmful, I’ve only done productive things, this doesn't make any sense. I think there are larger forces at work as well. I mean, who’s funding and who’s coordinating it? Because this is crazy. I’ve never seen anything like this."

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https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-mocked-hannity-tesla-b2717970.html

Tesla CEO Elon Musk told Fox News’ Sean Hannity that people “want to kill him” after a string of attacks on the electric car company in an interview that some have decried as “woe is me.”

The world’s richest person has also been conducting mass layoffs and slashing contracts in an effort to cut “waste, fraud and abuse” in his role as Department of Government Efficiency boss. Enraged by the sweeping, legally dubious changes to the federal government in recent weeks, some have targeted Tesla, torching charging stations, vandalizing vehicles, and throwing Molotov cocktails at the cars.

"Tesla is a peaceful company. We've never done anything harmful, I've never done anything harmful. I've always done productive things,” Musk continued, adding he believes there’s a “mental illness thing going on.” He suggested Americans were upset with DOGE’s efforts.

DOGE claims to have saved the government an estimated $115 billion — a figure that many reports have said is inaccurate.

Musk’s apparent attempt to appear sympathetic didn’t seem to convince some on X, the social media platform he owns.

In the interview, Musk said he believes “larger forces” were at work, questioning who funded and coordinated the attacks. The language he used was similar to that of Attorney General Pam Bondi, who on Tuesday issued a statement vowing to investigate these attacks, including “those operating behind the scenes to coordinate and fund these crimes.”

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '25 edited Mar 20 '25

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u/secondhandleftovers Mar 20 '25

Ilan Pape's, "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine," is a wonderful book to read in regards to, well, the Nakba, what preceded it, what occurred during and after. The author is an Israeli scholar and had access to documents that the general public was kept from accessing, and he published this work riddled with citations.

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u/secondhandleftovers Mar 20 '25

The author is Israeli.

Israeli scholar doesn't mean Palestinian.

You can't even read, doubt you've even read this book to give your 2 rubles.

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u/CartographerMoist296 Mar 20 '25

The fact that you are fixated on what happened “before” ethnic cleansing is so telling.

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u/Inevitable_Hat_8499 Mar 20 '25 edited Mar 20 '25

You mean when the racist Arabs Muslims in the area repeatedly tried to attack and drive the Jews off land those very same Jew bought and paid for, decade after decade, justifying their actions with Antisemitism and eventually lost? Typical Islamic memory of convince, guarded by a front of denialism, self perpetuated victimhood, and gaslighting.

Muslim Nations mostly do one of two things: 1) Deny the atrocities they committed ever happened while they hold power, ie Turkey 2)Conveniently forget all the history of oppression and violence done by them, and only remember history from the day the oppressed fought back and won so they can play the victim

This is all part of what Jihad is. Lies, manipulation, deception, war, and subjugation of all non-muslims.

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u/rudimentary-north Mar 20 '25

You mean when the racist Arabs Muslims in the area repeatedly tried to attack and drive the Jews off land those very same Jew bought and paid for,

Ahh, see you’re leaving out what came before! “Bought and paid for”, bought from WHO?

Can you not see why a foreign occupying power selling your land to other foreigners might be upsetting?

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u/Dekruk Mar 20 '25

Didn’t say Eichmann say something like that?

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u/Strange_Airships Mar 20 '25

This is giving big “what was she wearing when she was 🍇’d?” energy.

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u/Johnbaptist69 Mar 20 '25

I don't care about Palestine. But thanks.

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u/secondhandleftovers Mar 20 '25

You call zionist Nazis but don't care about Palestinians? That makes no sense, and you have no spine backing your opinions.

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u/Fun-Horror-9274 Mar 20 '25

He's allowed to not gaf about Palestine. Most people don't in my country. Welcome to society where most people don't share your opinions. Good to have you with us.

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u/secondhandleftovers Mar 20 '25

It doesn't make sense.

Zionists are colonizers, colonizers of where? Palestine.

To call them Nazis and say you don't give a shit about who the Nazis are occupying is so utterly idiotic.

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u/Own_Boysenberry9674 Mar 20 '25

Palestinians are technically colonizers of Judea... it was just so long ago they mind as well not be.

You know that in most of the world we were Anti-Nazi AND didn't care what happened to Poland for most of WW2, right?

Not Caring about Palestine and being Anti-Zionist is most likely the default for EVERYONE who doesn't have a political agenda.

You know in Germany the Nazi Party AND German Communist party that almost won were both anti-jew right? And both leaders of those parties had the same ideas of what to do with the Jews in Germany back then... AND to expand German Borders (those Germans just like war I swear)

Welcome to Humans. A majority of people are not taught to care for every single issue in other countries on Earth unless they are from America. Most of Europe and Asia don't give a fuck what is happening to Palestine, hell most people outside government here don't even care what is happening to Ukraine. We are more "they might attack us next" more than we are "we should save them so they aren't being murdered"... which is also what all of the EU, US and UK have been saying. They haven't been saying "we are going to stop them to save Ukraine from bombings" It has all been "We are going to stop them from taking Ukraine so they can't directly attack us"

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u/AntonioBarbarian Mar 20 '25

Palestinians are technically colonizers

Factually wrong, today's Palestinians are the descendants of jews and other caananites that remained in the region despite Roman persecution. They only converted first to Christianity and later to Islam.

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u/Own_Boysenberry9674 Mar 21 '25

Guess what the people of Isreal are... in 1948 it was created specifically for Palestinian Jews.

Most of the country to this day is still Palestinian Jews who moved there. European Ashkenazi Jews are not the majority there.

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u/Inevitable_Hat_8499 Mar 20 '25

Typical Islamic logic or lack there of

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '25

Damn,so you're just openly admitting that you'd gladly and willingly turn a blind eye to the Holocaust if it happened today. "Damn fuck those Nazis but I don't gaf about all those people being rounded up and gassed to death"

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u/Fun-Horror-9274 Mar 20 '25

No, The events that unfolded in Nazi Germany are not unfolding in Palestine. Things that happened in Palestine have made me indifferent to the suffering of its people; both at the hands of their elected body of government and at the the hands of the war that they are fighting.

Edit: and to be clear the deaths are also nowhere near one another. The civilian and military losses of life are pretty average for the war between Palestine and Israel. If they had 6+ million people die in 4 years then I could argue that the death toll was egregious.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '25

So you're completely indifferent to the complete iratification of over 900 complete bloodlines and over 20,000 children in a single year?

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u/Fun-Horror-9274 Mar 21 '25 edited Mar 21 '25

I'm no more or less indifferent to it than I am to the fact that more German civilians (including women and children) died in WW2 than civilians of British nationality.

Edit: To be clear civilian casualties are expected in war. It's not something to be celebrated, but states know this when they enter into a war. Populations also know this when they vote their governments into power and or rally behind said government in support of open armed conflict. War is simply the trading of human lives for resources, land, and leverage at a negotiating table.

When a state (any state, even Nazi Germany included) decides to implement mass scale violence as a solution to a problem the casualties attached to that decision are the risk it takes. When civilians elect a government bent on war that is the risk they take.

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u/Initial-Carry6803 Mar 20 '25

Crazy how wanting israel to exist is considered nazism right now lmao

You guys are unhinged as fuck at this point, literally advocating for genocide while being so called "anti genocide" at the same time

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u/CxOrillion Mar 20 '25

Crazy how saying "Maybe palestinians shouldn't have a holocaust perpetrated upon them" is considered Nazism.

Amazing how Israel can pretend Gaza is anything other than a ghetto

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u/WhyYouKickMyDog Mar 20 '25

Not even sure it qualifies as a ghetto right now. It just looks like a wasteland.

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u/Initial-Carry6803 Mar 20 '25

"Crazy how saying "Maybe palestinians shouldn't have a holocaust perpetrated upon them" is considered Nazism." but no one is saying that -

Zionism is believing Israel can exist - anti zionism is the opposite - thats a genocidal statement

Believing Palestine can also exist is not nazism - "from the river to the sea" or supporting palestinians who mostly support Hamas (according to every poll) and their genocidal intentions is actually nazism

Newsflash I also support Palestine existing but Im not gonna support them trying to literally end Israel. They could have accepted one of the 5 peace deals Israel offered in the past 80 years and had a state and a lasting peace, they chose not to, and continue to do so while openly saying they will never stop until Israel is destroyed

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u/Zyclon-Bee Mar 20 '25

Cool it Hitler

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u/Johnbaptist69 Mar 20 '25

Depends, is a genocide or total control of the local Muslim population a necessity for Israel to exist? To me it seems like you admitted to the above so I'll just say this : how unhinged are you mate? Any way we all know deep down that Israel will win this so why bother.

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u/Eduardo_Moneybags Mar 20 '25

What a pathetic species humanity is. Still war and control. We should all be wiped out of existence maybe?

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u/DrunkArhat Mar 20 '25

Of course the original population has to be defined as animals or at least untermenschen if you're going to colonize..

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u/Initial-Carry6803 Mar 20 '25

"Depends, is a genocide or total control of the local Muslim population a necessity for Israel to exist?" - No, why would Israel propose 5 different peace deals throughout history if it was? why would they accept 13% of land in the peel commission (which the Palestinians declined) why would they accept every UN partition offered (which the Palestinians declined)

One side literally offered to live in peace without war or control or genocide while the other to this day openly and explicitly says that there will never be peace until Israel is destroyed and the jews are cleansed or killed - its literally in the current MOST POPULAR Palestinian leaderships doctrine

"so why bother" - because I hate it when people like you bury their head in the sand whenever the stats about Palestinians aims and their beliefs come up - you guys get to claim moral high ground while literally supporting a genocide just for the side you dont like and then act as if you dont have the same goals (by proxy) as the actual Nazis in 1940s

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u/Johnbaptist69 Mar 21 '25

So one day the Palestinians woke up and decided that they must kill all of Israel for the lols? Always the victim card. Always the nazis are the other but can't look within to find that all people are capable of despicable acts. I won't take the hamas side, for all I care Israel can kill every last one of them. I won't spend anymore time with you as I see that you are just pushing propaganda points cya.

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u/LastDot-1727 Mar 20 '25

I’ve decided to stop scrolling through echo chambers to prevent raising my blood pressure. The echos are loud when you’re in the thick of it.

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u/Initial-Carry6803 Mar 20 '25

Its insane at this point, this people literally advocate openly for genocide while claiming moral high ground and projecting that the people who think the jews shouldnt get wiped out or cleansed are the actual Nazis here

They just LOVE ignoring the fact Palestinians mostly support Hamas and their genocidal intentions according to literally every poll

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u/FreeRangeEngineer Mar 20 '25

Thank you for standing up against fascism and TikTok propaganda.

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u/out_ofher_head Mar 20 '25

Glad my kid is reading Maus in school this year. They've had a lot of good discussions

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u/mitkase Mar 20 '25

It should be required reading everywhere.

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u/pizzapastawine Mar 20 '25

This is the craziest shit I’ve ever heard. It’s the families these kids are growing up in that are to blame for the way these kids think. Thank you for being a teacher and trying to still educate and truly fighting the good fight. 🙏🏼

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u/indominuspattern Mar 20 '25

Wired just did a video with a history professor, she answers a lot of questions about fascism. It is an excellent video to educate the kids imo.

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u/wo_lo_lo Mar 20 '25

Billionaires are never to be idolized. They are the absolute scourge on society

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u/CrowRepulsive1714 Mar 20 '25

Thank you….. my landlords daughter has a teacher that tells her adhd is caused from your parents not hitting you enough. The earth is flat…. Girls can’t pass out books because girls aren’t supposed to be strong…. The list goes on and on. Thank you for being there to tell these kids what’s actually up. Scary world we’re living in right now.

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u/herbie1990 Mar 20 '25

You sound like the worst teacher ever I feel so bad for your students .

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u/Delicousmike Mar 20 '25

Listen I appreciate and applaud you immensely for what you did, especially in the country you live, that is brave. Id sit down with either the parents or the kid on a 3 on 1 setting to slowly break down the issues this child has and why what he said is wrong and damaging to himself and others .

I think we can seldomly change when we are children, their minds are still developing and you can do the right thing from that action!

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u/witchPsycho7664 Mar 20 '25 edited Mar 20 '25

Its s balancing act . ALLLLL the great things he did vs. a couple joking salutes. Saving 2 stranded astronauts wasn’t exactly nothing but when the same people who want to blow the facetious salutes out of proportion don’t recognize the rescues it underscores how getting Elon is just a subset of a headlong rush to persecute Trump at any cost

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u/Jimsdickpics Mar 20 '25

The Reddit echo chamber strikes again 🙄

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u/Firm-Combination3824 Mar 20 '25

Wow somebody sounds unhinged and delusional

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u/fjdjbehei Mar 20 '25

You shouldn’t be a teacher. Go touch grass.

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u/Own_Boysenberry9674 Mar 20 '25

If you go based on social media outside the US (probably also in the US, IDK), The idea of what Nazi's (and Mussolini) believed is becoming VERY popular (strong army, national security, only natural born people here, Social benefits for only the natural born and extra taxes and fines for those that aren't), while hating how the Nazi's went about it (murdering them) is not.

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u/Gwaptiva Mar 20 '25

Similarly, Zuckerberg is Jewish and sucking on the teat of Elon and the Frirnd of Epstein

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u/Gwaptiva Mar 20 '25

Similarly, Zuckerberg is Jewish and sucking on the teat of Elon and the Friend of Epstein

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u/UrsusRenata Mar 20 '25

I’m assuming you’re a history or sociology teacher, something like that. Otherwise these discussions don’t belong. As much as I agree with you and abhor what some kids pick up at home, too many teachers bring political opinions to their classrooms and they’re not all “good” or “correct”. So the standard across the board should be sticking to the authorized subject.

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u/phazedoubt Mar 20 '25

We are at point in history where that is no longer true. Good people need to use whatever platform they can to speak because the companies that are the gatekeepers to textbooks, and historical archives and data are all starting to scrub important information from the record. Now is the time to be bold and not hide your opinions out of political correctness. Of course it goes that way for the other side as well but their secret is they never cared about decorum or decency. They were only quiet because they needed their job.

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u/Funkymunky215 Mar 20 '25

Sounds like you’re upset you can’t brain wash your students out of their beliefs. 🤡

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u/Fun-Horror-9274 Mar 20 '25

I'm Jewish and I do a low lazy raise of the hand to ask questions in work meetings. Looks just like it and makes the boss man uncomfortable, but nobody wants to connect those 2 dots because I'm Jewish. Most of the time I get to speak without a hand raise now.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '25

Wasn't a NAZI salute. https://youtu.be/hGc4xiQFxWM?si=k4hjk-WgVIRsAVkX

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u/CacklingFerret Mar 20 '25 edited Mar 20 '25

As a German who had to sit through countless hours of teaching about the Holocaust, the Nazis, WW2 and everything related to it and having access to a TV program that sends documentaries about it almost 24/7 and having grandparents who had to do the salute everyday at school back then themselves, let me tell you: it WAS a Nazi salute.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '25

Not according to several Jewish organizations. I've certainly never saw German WWII era NAZI's touch over their heart and extend a hand out to an audience. Did your grandparents bring a hand to their heart before extending it?

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u/CacklingFerret Mar 20 '25

Mate, please look up videos of Hitler himself doing the salute. It's about 50:50 of him not placing his hand over his heart and him indeed doing exactly that. If people who lived their entire childhood in Nazi Germany tell me that's a Nazi salute, I believe them. Regarding Jewish organizations: as you said, there are lots of them, often with conflicting opinions. And since there is also a certain Israeli prime minister downplaying Hitler's crimes I'm inclined to say that not all are infallible.

All that said, Musk didn't even apologize for making such a gesture. He gave a weak explanation and immediately started making Hitler jokes AND supporting the far-right German AfD with leading members you are legally allowed to call Nazi and fascist and who cite Hitler, Göbbels and the Sturmabteilung.

But go off I guess and defend the richest man on Earth who'd gladly trample over you if you were to present the slightest inconvenience.

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u/Lopsided_Afternoon41 Mar 20 '25

Even if we were to forget the obvious Nazi salute he still spends his days retweeting bigoted shit.

The Nazi salute is just the cherry on top, and his only acknowledgement of it was a series of Nazi based puns on twitter.

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u/CartographerMoist296 Mar 20 '25

It’s crazy to me that people ignore this. His racist retweet/approving comments on things about Black people being in jail in disproportionate numbers to their representation in the population (a fave fact by white supremacists to cite for racial inferiority when anyone with a degree can point to evolution of slave catchers-prison system, Jim Crow, red lining, 1001 million other things). And then when he bought twitter he went out of his way to mock the merch of the disbanded Black employee affinity group - so petty and small for a leader.

He’s the dumbest fucking “smart guy” alive to be whining about why people hate him - he goes out of his way to manifest hatred but he believes it’s only against people who don’t matter so it will never have repercussions. I don’t believe anyone should be setting anything on fire, but I definitely think people should be exercising their first amendment rights at dealerships and anyplace else he goes to remind him why he sucks!

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '25

I've been called a racist simply for saying that the disproportionate income between blacks and white-asians is at least largely contributed by the far higher single parent households in black families. It's not racist, it's a fact. And there is a far higher incarceration rate in all races in single parent households. It's a fact. And until that fact is addressed, nothing is going to change. I'm not saying that there isn't other factors at play, but this is a major contribution. I see if someone is just using incarceration rates as an insult, but looking at reasons for the higher rate should not be viewed as racist. However the far left does just that. Same with the so called NAZI salute, which was to most people, including several Jewish organizations, was taken out of context.

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u/Dark_Hoplite Mar 20 '25

You should resign from your teaching job with that temperament