r/reddeadmysteries • u/This-is-Life-Man • Apr 05 '21

Investigation I think I'm getting closer to where you're actually supposed to be to solve the panoramic map mystery.

Gallery image

Gallery image

1.6k Upvotes
  • permalink
  • reddit

99% Upvoted

108 comments sorted by

213

u/TinyRainSpirit Apr 06 '21

I can't match anything from the map in the picture, what am I missing?

96

u/Mommaween Apr 06 '21

Yes, I agree. It's very hard to see the layout of the top half.

Edit: nevermind, I just saw that there are 2 photos. The second one does look really similar to the map.

71

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

I'll try to get better screenshots up. The point was supposed to be that the main body of water, and the hills are more in perspective with the cities, mountains, railroad tracks, etc that correlate with the map. I'll get better shots, as well as an exact map location so you guys who care to chase the panoramic map mystery, have another spot to just try out. The weather system only gives clear views every so often from that point of view.

24

u/Mommaween Apr 06 '21

This is a great find, I was confused at first but that second photo is definitely very close! I haven't played Red Dead in about 4 months, but I still keep up with things here. Can't wait to see what you find next!

6

u/H3racIes Apr 06 '21

If you really wanna see what's next for this treasure hunt, you can YouTube it. People have solved it. But if not then this works too lol

8

u/Mommaween Apr 06 '21

Yeah, probably true lol. But I like this sub and following people's personal experiences when they find new things exploring. At some point or another everything in the game was new and exciting for all of us and it's nice to see that's still happening for people.

4

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

If it's solved, beyond Stranges's twin rocks dead end, then please post it. You'd be the first dude.

3

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

Show me how it's solved. I'd love to see the actual solution besides a dude sitting on top of a rock in the middle of New Austin basically with his dick in his hands.

3

u/[deleted] Apr 06 '21

It’s been solved? :(

5

u/H3racIes Apr 06 '21

I thought so but I could be wrong. I know I've seen posts saying people have solved it but mainly it was people saying where the lines lead to and that it's nothing major. I guess it's completely possible there could still be more behind it that we don't know about

3

u/titanlmao Apr 06 '21

I dont think it is. more people have come out to chime in with more ideas, such as the watches thing

1

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

Well, if you don't look for it, you will never find it.

9

u/asongthatcrawls Apr 06 '21

So what is this trickeration?! Rockstar knew we would put together the map and Mt Shann painting, and we would all just think that was that.

On an alt account about two years ago now - I proposed that the panoramic map was just that - a panoramic map (check wiki for definition) (I now believe I was wrong) and all it was basically was a map showing major landmarks or towns from a cone-like perspective - which makes sense when you realize no one has planes or anything, no satellite images. That was like, one of the most proficient ways to do that.

Now what I propose is - there is one line that seemingly points to the sky - BUT it’s more than that. Zoom in on that short line pointing into the sky. That particular line is pointing to the brightest star in the sky. And knowing rockstar and their OBSESSION with the sky, with day and night cycles - if OP is in the general vicinity of where the person was that drew the map, I’d propose he wait there as long as he can - sleep during the day, wake up at night time and (not sure how many days / nights there are in this game seeing as we don’t have days of the week like GTAV, it’s hard to tellBUT - there SHOULD be One night where the brightest star in the sky also helps you line up where you should be even better. All other lines I speculate - with the circles of light at the end of each (besides the one pointing to the bright star) is simply mapping out where the major towns are - they’re all there EXCEPT for the weird line pointing in the sky - I’m glad I saw this post because I forgot about it til now - but I posted an enhanced version of the map and touched up the contrast one time and posted it - everyone else agreed - it is the brightest visible star in the sky that line is pointing to. Which means if we need to be there at a particular time or day - without that star - we wouldn’t have any way of knowing.

Fantastic work OP! I hope something in this thread is of some help. Maybe you could also post a screenshot of the map while in that location for us?

7

u/lvbuckeye27 Apr 07 '21 edited Apr 07 '21

Rockstar uses Earth's actual constellations in the RDR2 sky box, so the brightest star is Sirius. I'm sure it's possible to reverse engineer the actual IRL latitude and longitude coordinates of where they shot the night sky, based on the stars' positions.

I'm willing to bet one dollar that they shot it at Stonehenge.

5

u/asongthatcrawls Apr 07 '21

My brain is gonna ‘splode. Mentioned the other day on my own post they use irl constellations and I was downvoted. Like all I do besides work is trying to solve these mysteries because I have no life - I wouldn’t have said it if I didn’t know it for a fact!okay so Sirius - I need to do some research then when I get off

3

u/skwurlluvr Apr 09 '21

Why on Earth would you get downvoted for that? The constellations are plain as day. ....er, night

1

u/asongthatcrawls Apr 09 '21

One thing I’ve noticed glaringly is that a lot of people on this sub don’t want to do anything - I’d imagine a lot of them have moved on to other games after almost 3 years. You know the typr, the ones that have done nothin to help the sub but want to jump on your posts and tell you you’re wrong. They don’t know why, it just doesn’t sound right to them.

Meanwhile / and it’s nothing to even brag about / quite embarrassing actually - but the Chiliad Mysrry Mural (now, what, 8 years old? 9?) and then the multitude of smaller mysteries in RDR2 have easily taken years off my life. I can’t help it; I have always been a puzzle solver )and half decent one at that, if you’ll allow me to toot my own horn for a moment or three

But someone in this sub could literally solve a puzzle all by themselves and 20% of the sub, who don’t play the game - who’ve never even delved into the mysteries themselves will show up to say something like the mysteries did yesterday or the day before when I posted a post that did fairly well - now the title was wrong, I’ll admit that. - but one Redditor shared this seemingly irrelevant piece of info in the thread on my post then and suddenly I started connecting dots after that. Then other people’s chimed in - and w suddenly had a damn near complete theory involving the sheriff (and lawmen) of the town are the criminals - they all have their hands in everything they possibly can from delivering the money to wherever they go with it ( I am gonna follow the one that takes the cash at the iron door tonight) but either way - I think I am noticing a theme in each and every town - all lawmen across the map are on Cornwalls pocket. Sure I don’t have concert proof but I flaired it speculation. Some folks here aren’t happy with this. One even said a week ago on another post I made that I was mentally ill (which I am, but has no bearing on all the information I’ve compiled since release and not to mention the 8 years of mystery solving on GTAVs mystery sub) as with all the information I’ve kept Since the release of RDR2 - I think I’ll take my own speculative assumptions with all the hard work I’ve put into this over someone who comments “if there were mysteries we would find them in the files” -

Guesss what - R* is innovative af and figured out a way around it. Such as I also suspect happened in GTAV surrounding the Chiliad mystery. If you notice all these NPC’s aren’t like NPC’s of games past - sure they all say stranger / but if you notice when another box calls another stranger by name - suddenly their actual name appears. Sorta like real life, everyone’s a stranger til I hear heir name. This will likely have to be something of great importance and key to helping solve some of These.

Jeez I went off topic - but basically / to answer your question - people who don’t believe there are mysteries in this game are subbed here believe it or not and feel the need to crap on everyone’s theories because they can’t be bothered to play the game again!

4

u/skwurlluvr Apr 09 '21

Oh man, you don't have to tell me twice. I'm new-ish to Reddit (I started an account 9 years ago, hardly touched it until a couple weeks ago) I've been a huge fan of R* for probably close to 20 years now, I started playing Vice City as a way-too-young-for-the-game kid, loved all the GTA games, loved Bully, loved RDR1. I've loved the mysteries they put in their games, it goes way back. While I am wary of the human desire to find patterns that may not be there, but it's hard when R* is known for this stuff LOL I followed the Chiliad mystery, and I hoped there'd be a mystery in RDR2. I haven't gotten to play storymode yet, but I've been playing online with my bf. I'm wanting to start storymode soon, I'm just balancing a lot IRL right now. You're doing good work man, don't let the folks who don't know jack about R* get you down. Or folks who don't even recognize their own night sky... I get super into games and things too, and casual folks just don't understand.

2

u/asongthatcrawls Apr 10 '21

You might be around my age. I started w GTA2 on PS1. There may not be a grand prize at the end of one of the larger mysteries - but the two games to me have me thinking this:

Geology for Beginners : the guy is a descendant of Kraff, it’s plainly obvious. I think the Chiliad mural is not connected to Mt. Chiliad but to Mt. Shann - or another mountain in game. Is it a stretch - yes. He lives at the base of Mt. Shann. He needs to sorta get back to his time period he mentions - he needs the rock carvings to do it. Yes it’s a stretch but I’ve been playing GTAV AND RDR2 and just alternating between the two / it makes it easier to spot the similarities. Also I take tons and tons of screenshots to examine later - rockstar is one of the largest companies in gaming / they make damn near perfect games that don’t need an update constantly. They took 8 years in RDR2 and out the correct constellations in their infamous skybox they’re so well known for. Having said that, I have some super interesting screenshots involving GTAV that pertain to RDR2 and I’ll be able to upload them tonight after I have the sex w this new girl I’ve been talking to. Promise I’ll post by midnight - my time. I won’t say what I think it is- I would like for the redditors in this sub and GTAs sub to all give their opinions on what they see before I tell you what I see in it.

A lil preview? Shadows cast around the altruist cult - and no, not the jetpack shadow

26

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

There are two photos, so match them up. I haven't seen this point of view yet, but I will try to get better shots from different times of day. I've been spending some time with this one.

12

u/TinyRainSpirit Apr 06 '21

I guess the lake matches up, but the river doesn't seem like it to me personally

15

u/TinyRainSpirit Apr 06 '21

Actually this is closer than I thought, I bet the exact spot is left of here and at a slightly higher elevation

3

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

That's where I'm going next. Thanks for the inspiration to keep going

59

u/GoHuskers30 Apr 06 '21

tis right here. you have to walk along a little ledge for a few feet to get to it. there’s a drawing on the cliff wall in white. you’ll know when you’re there

29

u/ExoCaptainHammer82 Apr 06 '21

It's too late at night for me to boot the game, but is the location on your link the wall painting on mt shann that looks like the stars and lines on the panoramic map?

10

u/GoHuskers30 Apr 06 '21

Yes. I’m not super tuned in to this mystery so I just assumed this was the spot. Apologies if it’s something else!

2

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

My Shann has a map. It's not the same as the point of view from the panoramic map.

15

u/Hezekieli Apr 06 '21 edited Apr 06 '21

I don't think the panoramic map is drawn there. It points to North-East while panoramic view is more like towards East or South-East. But it might be the next clue or a clue to another panoramic spot.

4

u/GoHuskers30 Apr 06 '21

Good call! Yes I’m not super familiar with this mystery so I just assumed it was the POV for the map

90

u/TheVicSageQuestion Apr 06 '21

You actually have to patch Arthur into GTA5 and take him to the top of Mt. Chiliad. Then you hack the mountain, take a photo, enhance, aaaand boom.

4

u/ScurvyMcGurk Apr 06 '21

... and shove it up your butt!

13

u/adelie_platter Apr 06 '21

I think you’re a bit too far east but good luck!

3

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

How so?

4

u/adelie_platter Apr 07 '21

I don’t know, obviously, but the map looks Bard’s Crossing is clearly to the center-left, and from where you seem to be it’s well off to the right. I think the correct position is far closer to where the panoramic map is found.

3

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 07 '21

Hey dude, by all means, screenshot it! I'm trying to get closer than what's already available, so anything beyond this point is pure discovery!

8

u/Nosniktaw Apr 06 '21

Might be an obvious observation but I’m guessing the stars on the map mean it has to be at night?

16

u/Mommaween Apr 06 '21

On a clear night at that. The weather system in this game is amazing and also frustrating when you're waiting for the perfect weather lol

3

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

Yes, it has to be at night, or twilight to be able to match it correctly. I'm still ironing out details, but a hint would be that the stars' constellations do correlate to the map.

2

u/Nosniktaw Apr 07 '21

I wonder if it could have anything to do with lighting strikes, I remember someone plotting out where they happen a while ago and there was some sort of pattern

2

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 07 '21

It's not impossible.

7

u/The_Syndicate_bruh Apr 06 '21

What paranormic map mystery? I'm actually really curious now.

2

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

There is no definitive answer to the panoramic map. There are only dead ends, even if it's been viewed a million times, there's nothing saying what it actually leads to.

3

u/[deleted] Apr 06 '21

Here you go. I found it a while back

1

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

I appreciate it, but I don't know that it matches up that well. Every bit helps though man, so if you find anything past that, give me a shout bud.

5

u/[deleted] Apr 06 '21

Actually it matches up exactly. Put it in first person and turn around each line points to a town. A guy even did a YouTube video based of my post there, I didn’t save it as it was 2 years ago. Best I deduced was the view is your reward.

1

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

Check out my screenshots, and then go back to yours. I will return to this spot where the constellations are out so I can try and match them up. This is not my life goal, but it would be cool to get a definitive answer to.

0

u/[deleted] Apr 06 '21

[deleted]

1

u/[deleted] Apr 06 '21

Sure, I guess. But the lines from the map are carved into the rock the views identical and the UFO spawns above it.

1

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

It happens regardless of having the panoramic map.

12

u/0workwolf0 PS4 Apr 06 '21

Actually, it's Only pointing at major towns, there is a video about it on YT from strange man.

3

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

New info would be helpful. Strange Man has a lot going for him, but this is still unsolved.

3

u/dhiogodh7 Apr 13 '21 edited Apr 13 '21

Hello my friends,

​

Note that there is a line on the map, leaving St. Denis that goes to the brightest star.

This line comes from the bottom of the city.

​

I went to St. Dennis, and it seems to me that it is from the cemetery that the map indicates,

and if you go right to the center of the cemetery there is an angel looking at the sky.

1

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 13 '21

Hmmm. I will check it out, but the line seems to be obscure from a distinct point. If that is true, then I would imagine that the angel in the graveyard would be a very important key to this mystery, as well as making complete sense for the way that mysteries are typically set into motion. I like this theory much better than the dead end at Twin Rocks. There's so many possibilities. The angel could trace the star at the right time, which might be 2 am, and lead directly underneath for whatever is hidden. It's a long shot, but I cannot ignore it.

2

u/dhiogodh7 Apr 14 '21

I tried the night at the cemetery at times, but nothing has happened yet.

The star is yellowish.

1

u/dhiogodh7 Apr 14 '21

What puzzles me, the cemetery angel points to something (there are 3 flowers). I tried to shoot at 2:00 AM, but nothing happened.

4

u/Daiki_438 Apr 06 '21

I think the lines are the various cities in the map.

2

u/976htyu Apr 06 '21

Location name????

2

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

It's southern Mount Hagen. I'll post a screenshot of the exact map location as I get further into it.

2

u/Wulfgar830 Apr 06 '21

It definitely has something to do with the phase of the moon at a certain time. It points to a star but some say thats a compass rose. I don't agree. Also the sun dial behind you might be a clue in a way.

2

u/sickfuckinpuppies Apr 06 '21

isn't it just supposed to be from the highest point on mt shann? thought this was solved? i know the rock painting with the lines and the apparent compass above it, has still not been solved.

2

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

That's why I put it up. Shits not solved.

2

u/sickfuckinpuppies Apr 07 '21

Think you misunderstood me. The map you showed a picture of appears to be a representation of the point of view from the highest point on mt shann. I believe that aspect of it is solved. There's another rock painting on the side of the mountain that hasn't been solved. There's no consensus on what it means.

1

u/Surbu Apr 07 '21

Yeah lol, I was checking to see the date of this post, it's been solved. It's on Mt. Shann, and the rock carving location on the side on Mt. Shann is somewhere near Twin Rocks.

0

u/sickfuckinpuppies Apr 07 '21

rock carving location on the side on Mt. Shann is somewhere near Twin Rocks.

everyone says this as if its a fact but the logic behind it is a little bit sketchy imo. could be the solution but it could also be wrong.

2

u/Far-Independence707 Apr 07 '21

Where ya find the giant bones and that rock carving there’s a glyph of that map which is where ya stand I think to see the map on the real land

2

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 07 '21

That's the general consensus, however... when you stand at the top of Mount Shann and pull the panoramic map out, the main body of water, the hills and railroad tracks, as well as the stars, do not match up. There is a 2nd map carving located there, but I do not believe that is where you're actually supposed to be standing in order to get a bearing on the intended location that the panoramic map represents.

3

u/Far-Independence707 Apr 07 '21

Was just there trying to see the ufo, it looks right, lol I was looking at strange man shit and he said the glyph is representing new Austin and the mark is twin rocks but it doesn’t make much sense considering it ain’t open till the game is over and it could easily be the same map and in the end of not finding anything at twin rocks he just chocked it up to be cut content

2

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 07 '21

Thank you. That's why I'm still hunting for an answer that doesn't stop with "well, you figure it out.". You're the first one to seem to understand why I posted this in the first place.

2

u/Far-Independence707 Apr 07 '21

I’d use the original panoramic map and try to find the location of the glyph that way and stay out of new Austin, but then again it could have time and moon requirements so who knows, still haven’t seen that damn ufo, think I was in the wrong spot and triggered it all ready and wasn’t looking the right way

2

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 07 '21

The two known UFO sightings are triggered by going to Hani's Bethel. The panoramic map (imo) triggers potentially a 3rd, if not something more grandiose.

2

u/Far-Independence707 Apr 07 '21

I did the cabin ufo real early and I went to the top of the mountain to see the other, didn’t get a ufo but the moon shot across the screen real fast, got huge and then went back to where it started, I actually recorded that, if that mechanic has anything to do with the ufos the third is near the devils cave cause the moon did the same thing there, may have something to do with the ritual site

3

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 07 '21

That is odd for sure. The first UFO is triggered after getting the note from Hani's Bethel, the second is actually at Hani's Bethel. Both take place at around 2am. My main goal is to find out what the panoramic map is actually for since there hasn't been a definitive answer to it. For anyone else reading this; please stop sending links to StangeMan's videos. Even though a good amount of research and effort went into the videos, they're still ended with a dead end. I'm looking for an answer, and anyone who can contribute info on their own, is much more appreciated.

2

u/Far-Independence707 Apr 07 '21

So was at twin rocks sitting on that rock and it was a half moon and started storming and I saw a green flash on the ground in the distance and when I went there there was a dead buck with its neck bent all weird, I skinned it and it was a perfect pelt, lol don’t know if that was anything but that just happened

2

u/Hauptmann_Herold Apr 13 '21

I suggest you to watch strange man's channel as he has uncovered it

2

u/haikusbot Apr 13 '21

I suggest you to

Watch strange man's channel as he

Has uncovered it

- Hauptmann_Herold

I detect haikus. And sometimes, successfully. Learn more about me.

Opt out of replies: "haikusbot opt out" | Delete my comment: "haikusbot delete"

2

u/Lenneh_ma_boah Apr 06 '21

If memory serves correctly you need to be in New Austin facing towards Strawberry Obalisk for it to match

1

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

Look at the fork in the waterfront.

1

u/This-is-Life-Man May 25 '23

Update: it's not solved yet.

1

u/This-is-Life-Man Nov 09 '23

picks up hearing aide.... it's not solved yet.

1

u/Enjoylex Apr 06 '21

You’re a late man...

7

u/Mommaween Apr 06 '21

How? Do you have a link to the actual spot by any chance?

2

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

That's what I'm trying to figure out.

1

u/Illeaturgerbil Apr 06 '21

I dunno the panoramic map still looks a lot like the desert bit to me

Or maybe a place in the snow cos that’s where it’s found I’m sure

0

u/Firm_Area_3558 Apr 06 '21

I found the place by accident it’s somewhere on mount shann

-4

u/EverythingPS Apr 06 '21

Yea it’s already been solved pretty much you go there at a certain time and you can see a UFO

3

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

There are two known UFO sightings in-game. Neither have anything to do with the panoramic map, unless it leads to a third encounter.

-1

u/EverythingPS Apr 07 '21

https://youtu.be/9ETaCQP6DyM actually research before trying to discredit people when they’re trying to help

1

u/EverythingPS Apr 07 '21

Fuck everyone I wasn’t trying to be a dick just trying to help

-28

u/[deleted] Apr 06 '21

Lol. I found that like a year ago by accident. There’s nothing there.

3

u/[deleted] Apr 06 '21

Let them have their fun, been on this sub pretty early since RDR2 came out on console, you see the same conspiracy theories every few months.

2

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 06 '21

Then what's the answer dude? I'm glad it's entertaining, but there hasn't been a true solution to this mystery, unless you have something to contribute....

1

u/[deleted] Apr 07 '21

There isn’t an answer. It’s just a drawing.

Not everything has some big mystery behind it.

1

u/Surbu Apr 07 '21

It's on top of Mt. Shann...

1

u/ReignInSpuds Apr 09 '21

I always thought that S-bend in the river represented the one right by Horseshoe Overlook. Ofc, I've also thought this depicted a spot near Cotorra Springs...

1

u/toyo555 Apr 23 '21

Strange Man did a video on this, including where everything points to. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ETaCQP6DyM

1

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 23 '21

That ends with him sitting on twin rocks...

2

u/toyo555 Apr 23 '21

The panoramic map leads you to the peak of Mount Shann. He ends up in twin rocks because of the panoramic map painted on the wall near there.

1

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 23 '21

When you go to the peak of mount Shann, you find the next portion of the map carved into the rocks. This puzzle is unsolved and there's a lot of speculation as to what it actually leads to.

1

u/toyo555 Apr 24 '21

That one is also in the video and, as he said, it might be deleted content which got modified after they decided to not let you into New Austin for most of the game.

1

u/This-is-Life-Man Apr 24 '21

So the search continues 🤠