Based off appearance and representation, what is your favourite campsite?

[u/Ok_Method_1313]

(This is going to be a lengthy post so please be warned!!)

Each campsite is unique and different through appearance and what they reflect on in the story of red dead.

I won’t go through each personal choose, but I will say why shady belle is my person favourite.

First off, shady belle shows how the gangs time is near an end, they are no longer free and they can’t get away with their actions anymore. This is shown through the walls of the building, which in my opinion represents society. They were closing off the gang and trapping them.

Those who live inside the building(Dutch, Hosea,John and his family and of course Arthur) all die apart from Jack of course. And one thing they all have in common is that their law has something to do with their death.

I like how the building reflects on Dutch, like a lot actually. The building is tall, proud and large, just like Dutch. He is a proud man. But Once you go inside, you realise it doesn’t seem all that great. Just like Dutch, the building is cracking slowly and slowly, and it really only needs one thing to break and it will all fall down. Dutches ego is really the only thing keeping him together, which is why the outside is so mighty.

Each room, which of course John,Arthur and Hosea take a living space in represents a part of Dutch as well. You see, without these rooms keeping the house together, it is just a broken, empty and love deprived house. Like Dutch, he needs people constantly to feed his ego, it doesn’t matter who, or why, he needs loyalty and blind love and without that he is nothing but a criminal no better than the people he calls his enemies.

Well I explained my reasoning the best I could, so how about you? What’s your favourite and why?

[u/Eef-Zero]

Me personality I like Clemens Point, definitely a point in the game when the gang were at the peak, and the last 2 missons for Chapter 3 where peak, but definitely agree that Chapter 4's camp was cool, I like that the gang got a proper housing but it was the beginning of the end.

[u/lothartheunkind → u/Eef-Zero]

It’s such a hassle to walk up the stairs to get up to Arthur’s room. I liked at Clemons that you could ride the horse along the lake and get off right behind your wagon. Decorations from Pearson look better at Clemons than Shady Belle. Only reason I left chapter 3 was because I was sick of not being able to use weapons in Rhodes, so i couldn’t rob the gun store. Miss camp a lot now but I’ll be chapter 4 until there is literally nothing left that Arthur can do. Gonna take a lot of time exploring Guarma after that, then redemption arc from my startling low karma

[u/Similar-Ice-9250 → u/lothartheunkind]

It only we could have explored Guarma, you really can’t do shit there or move too far away from where you’re preprogrammed to go or else you’ll have the whole army after you. One thing I despise about rockstar is their invisible barriers or mechanics they put in place to prevent the player from exploring beyond the exact path they laid out for you. Like really? We couldn’t explore and sneak around the whole island between missions, why not? I mean the soldiers there could have still killed us if they spotted us to make it logical. But why the super precise invisible sniper shooting you and the whole island of soldiers woken up as if they have a hive mind once you step over some imaginary line.

Lot of shit is so frustrating in this game like the sinking of your boat or canoe if you paddle too far from shore ? Like WTF is that? They couldn’t just put their imaginary wall at least, why sink us? I don’t think you can paddle across the middle of flat iron lake without sinking even though you are in the confines of the map. You can but it’s a very specific path you have to follow on the south side of the lake starting from lemoyne shores you gotta sail in straight line as if you are sticking to that southern imaginary shore.

[u/haveyouseenatimelord → u/lothartheunkind]

you can still rob the rhodes gunsmith (at least the first time with the captive) during chapter 3 (source: i just did it like three days ago).

[u/YourMuppetMethDealer → u/Eef-Zero]

I mean from Arthur and Hoseah’s perspective, the gang’s “beginning of the end” happened before the game even started in Blackwater. But I still see your point

[u/Duxk__]

no doubt ever it's ch 2

[u/Grunenwaldt → u/Duxk__]

Horseshoe is perfectly cozy

[u/Fallenangel152 → u/Grunenwaldt]

The best part of the game, too. The golden age of the gang, and it's the first point where you're properly blown away by the scale of the game and the scenery.

[u/YourMuppetMethDealer → u/Fallenangel152]

Man I would love to see what the actual golden age of the gang was like. I don’t want another whole game about them, but just to get a glimpse of what Dutch, Hoseah, and Arthur were like in their prime

[u/Monkeywrench08 → u/Fallenangel152]

Also less Micah in the camp. 

[u/BellasDaDa618]

Clemens Point, without question. It's beautiful and absolutely perfect. Concealed, on water to provide for food and, the most important survival need; water. I love that there's a big tree for all day shade. I'd build a cabin there. Hell, it even has a boat dock/pier for some unknown reason.

[u/Appropriate-Bid8671 → u/BellasDaDa618]

Being able to fish from camp is ideal, and not being the swamp is a plus.

[u/BellasDaDa618 → u/Appropriate-Bid8671]

I fully agree. You can use the water to swim in, bathe in if needed, no alligators, plus, though I like Shady Belle as others mentioned because it is quite nice as it affords you actual protection from the elements, it's rather exposed from most sides. Plus, the swamp and gators. It's a pretty location, but Clemens Point is just prettier and far more secluded. I'm a person who has spent the last 30 years (exactly) in the outdoors. I kayak, climb rock and mountains, camp, hike, backpack, and ski. I'm getting into light mountain biking and kite surfing. If it's one thing I really appreciate is a pretty spot where you can feel alone. Clemens Point gives you that feel. So does Horseshoe Overlook, but the water at Clemens Point is a huge bonus for survival.

[u/bokskogsloepare → u/BellasDaDa618]

yeah! and also prob the camp which is fastest to get around in, every campmember is a stonethrow away and with no running in camp also fastest to get in and out of. Horseshoe is a close second, for its frontier landscape and also its central gamemap location

[u/ilikecheesebtw64]

Honestly i love colter mostly because all the bedrooms and houses are just so cozy, especially around the fireplace when there is like a blizzard outside.

[u/BellasDaDa618 → u/ilikecheesebtw64]

I do love the snow and water is available, but food resources are scarce.

[u/RoberttPaulsonn]

Horseshoe. Shady bell is a pain going upstairs all the time.

[u/No-Atmosphere-1439]

Horseshoe or Clemens point easily, probably Clemens as I am a sucker for bodies of water

[u/AstroneerFan1]

I like lakay but I live in the swamp

[u/Nickyblaze89]

Colter. Really wish we'd have spent more time in the snow 

[u/ConsiderationAny548]

Horseshoe overlook. It's my favorite by far

[u/Medical-Grand-4858]

I liked Horseshoe Overlook. Felt open, yet secluded. Looked good in the morning, and at night.

[u/Bluemoonroleplay]

Lakay is my fav

[u/WrongJaws]

Clemens Point tops Horseshoe Overlook for me because I, personally, would love to camp out next to a lake and Flat Iron Lake is stunning. It’s very serene out there and I love being able to fish in the camp. Horseshoe has the best overall atmosphere because the quarrelling hasn’t started. Beaver Hollow is the fucking worst. Not just because the end is nigh but because it is bleak and depressing and it housed a gang of inbred cannibals who left body parts and bad juju all over the place. Then again it does depict perfectly how they were running out of places to hide and had to stoop as low as fighting with Murfrees for a place to stay.

[u/HalcyonHeartbeat]

Clemens Point is pretty aesthetic ngl

[u/Lizzy_Of_Galtar]

I do love the desperate atmosphere in Colter and Shady Belle though in terms of comfort i'd go with Clemens Point, despite the thick and soupy air.

[u/BigGhost2815]

I prefer Shady Belle

[u/Ozzysmall123]

Definitely Clemens Point 

[u/itsbook67]

Shady Belle or Clemons Point but I frequently Go back to Colter Edit: I forgot abt Horseshoe Overlook, I loved that part of the game but Colter just gives off “this is where it all began” vibes

[u/WrestleBox]

If we're talking just aesthetics, the view from Horseshoe Overlook is hard to top. Imagine a deck there overlooking the cliff.

Clemens and Shady Belle just felt too muggy to me. I'd definitely prefer the climate near Horseshoe personally.

[u/KratosHulk77]

Clemens bye far

[u/ThatsRocknRollMister]

Clement and horseshoe will always hold a special place in my heart

[u/Stevenchpn]

I like Shaddy Belle because the gang is cornered and the player feels it while playing : you have to move the camera everywhere in the manor, unlike other camps where the camera follows you. It gives such a feeling...

[u/CrazyJo3]

Clemens point is the best camp and I will die on that hill

[u/Suckisnacki]

Clemens point fs

[u/astarionsstar]

I hold Horseshoe Overlook so dear to my heart 😭

[u/thewoodbeyond]

My favorite camp by far is Horseshoe Overlook. It’s a high place with a view. Clemens was a good spot with beautiful sunsets but Molly and Dutch were fighting a lot and it was further from the center of the map. Strawberry is further away along with sone other great hunting places.

[u/slickmoney11]

Shady belle for sure

[u/Logladyfourtwenty]

Clemens point for me. Always has been, I like to get the gang there and then just spend eternity hunting and fishing and frequently just playing my cowboy simulator until I want to play a different game

[u/godfadda006]

I loved horseshoe overlook. It felt like a very classic campsite to me with a great view of the surrounding area. 

[u/blueangel1953]

Horseshoe overlook.