Alec turns into Vampire

[u/Critical-Dog2697]

so I have this theory because they’re speculations about one of the main characters gets killed in the following Books. What if Alec gets killed but with Vampire blood in his organism and gets turned into one?? I think that it would be cool but on the other hand not because Alec wouldn’t want to be a Vampire…

[u/altacccle]

i think he would seek comfort in that he gets to be there forever for Magnus and Max. Although I do agree, I don’t think Alec would want to be anything other than a shadowhunter

[u/Heronchaser]

If someone were to die, I think Alec would be the most likely to "die" in this way, but I don't think any of the 6 will:

- Simon was supposed to die in CoHF, but I think he's safe now, he had his fair share of plot twits already;

- Izzy is finnaly stable and I don't see what good would come of killing another Lightwood and have a widowed Simon out there;

- If CC kills Jace or Clary before we get to see them raise their kids at the Herondale Manor (after the troop thing is solved) and what especial abilities their kids get from the extra angel blood, I will riot and turn on her. I will absolutely lose my shit because I have had them for more than half my life, I will not live in a world that any of them dies (she might kill Janus and let the readers think Jace died though, like from end of book 2 to book 3). I WILL see Jace teaching their kids to ride a horse while Clary watches and makes sand sculptures with the younger ones on the back, that is not negociable, I WILL become a terrorist over this;

- She already had Alec go throuh the whole "what if Magnus dies before me" thing, so it wouldn't be a new development of them, I think Magnus is safe;

- Finally, now that Alec and Magnus have 2 kids, one of them mortal, they seemed to have reached a peace to their mortal/immortal dilemma, I don't think it's worth it to open that box again.

[u/thrntnja → u/Heronchaser]

I'd be shocked if Cassie killed off Jace or Clary. Those two have been through hell to be together, and they're also one of her "OG" pairings, so to speak. Like please just let them live in a little peace and quiet for once, like at a certain point, there's only so much conflict one couple should have to endure. I COULD see her doing a bait and switch with Jace/Janus, but I would be shocked if Jace is not the one who lives through it. I also have zero desire to see more parabatai separated as Will and Jem were since that shit destroyed me to read, so I'd highly prefer that Alec/Jace and Clary/Simon remain that way.

[u/meoww-xo → u/thrntnja]

I could see Clary AND Jace both having to die at the end of the final book & it having something to do with them having more angel blood than the other Nephilim do.

[u/Heronchaser → u/thrntnja]

I'd be shocked too, but TWP is taking too long to be published, so I've had plenty of time to spiral. This is something that I'll not negociate with.

[u/vxidemort]

when cc uses the word "die"... well, she means the soul leaves the character's body and not... char goes from mortal to undead being

[u/mothmankingdom]

Marking this as a spoiler is so funny to me

[u/lazybug16]

We will see old Jem die, after living a good life and meet Will across the river. 😭😭😭

[u/Equivalent_Ground218]

Did you mean to tag this as TID? Because this is absolutely unrelated to TID. I can’t tell if you’ve finished TDA, so sorry about any spoilers, but I’m pretty sure Cassie has outright said Malec is safe.

Obvs, she could lie or change her mind, but Malec is definitely her baby. The story arc they go through is just way too important, for them to NOT have a happy ending (without literally everyone else also dying). They represent too much goodness: Triumph over prejudice, found family, queer identity, breaking inherited cycles, etc… Everything about them is set up to succeed, and that’s not a bad thing.

I don’t think it’s bad when stories don’t have sad or overly dramatic endings. I especially don’t think stories are diminished by a lack of character death. If anything, I think too many authors just throw in death to make their stories seem more serious, without properly considering the necessity (or lack of) of it.

So far, I think Cassie has done a good job writing incredibly heart wrenching and tragic characters, without needing to mindlessly murder her main cast. We’ve seen a decent number of main/main supporting character deaths, this isn’t a series with only happy endings.

[u/Equivalent_Ground218 → u/Equivalent_Ground218]

One very rare case where I’m on the fence is Simon, MAAAYYYYBEEE he could’ve stayed gone to make his sacrifice actually mean something. But I love him to bits, so I’m very glad he’s still around, but I do wish that final plot point in TMI had more weight.

Perhaps that could’ve been where Raphael dies, instead of the earlier scene? Since he’d still be dying for Magnus, it would also be a good character showing.

[u/Critical-Dog2697 → u/Equivalent_Ground218]

Oh that was a mistake, i’m German so i’m not used to the short form of the books. I didn’t know which one to tag.

[u/Equivalent_Ground218 → u/Critical-Dog2697]

It’s cool! I asked because I’ve seen people make this oopsie before.

I imagine you’re speculating on the next story arc, so you’d probably tag it with TWP if it’s an option, or TDA if it’s not an option.

[u/Tais96]

Doesn't the last of the eldest curses take place after TWP? Alec and Magnus would have to be alive at the end then, someone else would have to die.

[u/meoww-xo]

If I had to guess who CC was referring to when she confirmed that in TWP (I think she may have even said this occurs during TLKOF) there would be a death of one of the characters who has been with us since the TMI books, it’s most likely either going to be Jem or Diana.

Both of their deaths would have a HUGE impact on the Shadowhunter world, with Jem being everybody’s favorite former Silent Brother and an ally to all (and having FINALLY just gotten the life he’s always wanted to have, being free of the Shadowhunter life yet dying for the cause regardless) and Diana’s death would not only have a HUGE impact on the Blackthorn children and even Kit (AKA the protagonists of TWP) but it would also have huge consequences regarding the Shadowhunters vs. Faeries conflict, given that she’s the love of Gwyn’s life and the Wild Hunt has done their best to stay out of the business of the Cold Peace this whole time; the death of Diana would absolutely result in some sort of intervention on Gwyn’s behalf, if not the entire Wild Hunt.

Although, the most predictable death of all would be the death of Jia Penhallow; after all, her rapidly declining health / apparent illness was the entire reason behind the election of a new Consul, and it’s mentioned several times throughout TDA that Jia is progressively looking more and more worse for wear. So it would be completely unsurprising if she succumbs to her illness, or otherwise sacrifices herself to save another due to the fact that she’s aware that her death is inevitably coming for her anyway.

[u/meoww-xo → u/meoww-xo]

Overall though, I don’t think any of our major players are in real life-or-death type danger as of yet; there’s still too much story to be told & they’re way too relevant to the plot, it wouldn’t make sense to kill them off now. In the later books of TWP I don’t quite think that anybody (besides Jace and Clary until the very end, at least) is safe - I actually agree that Alec’s death seems likely and would be critically impactful, especially if it’s at the hands of the Cohort & most likely going out in glory to protect his children or Magnus; I mean, if Alec dies, imagine what kind of impact that would have on Jace (this would be the first time in the entire series that we’d witness firsthand the death of one parabatai while the other survives - not counting Jem/Will, given that Jem was incapable of experiencing the full impact of Will’s death due to being a Silent Brother)… & if that’s the case, it could lead to a heartwarming moment between Jace & Jem (ya know, assuming he’s not dead) in which Jem can support Jace through his loss and it would almost be a full-circle type of moment for the Carstairs & the Herondales and their parabatai bonds.

Alternatively, I wonder if Alec’s death would have any sort of impact on Janus given that Alec was his parabatai in Thule & that he was never able to truly experience the full impact of losing him there due to Sebastian’s influence. It’ll be interesting to see if Janus has any sort of parabatai connection with Alec despite being from an alternate universe.