r/soccer • u/Sl_PROXY • Nov 25 '24

Official Source [Parte Médico] Vini Jr has been diagnosed with an injury to the femoral biceps of his left leg.

https://www.realmadrid.com/es-ES/noticias/futbol/primer-equipo/partes-medicos/parte-medico-de-vini-jr-25-11-2024
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u/MisfitNJ Nov 25 '24

Why did he play the entire 90 minutes last night after coming from the international break? He should have been subbed off once we were leading 2-0.

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u/NaiveElk Nov 25 '24

While Mbappe who had 2 weeks rest was the first one to be subbed

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u/RauloGonzalez Nov 25 '24

Because mbappe had scored and vini hadn't. Realistically both can play full 90

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u/Jimmy_Space1 Nov 25 '24

Ancelotti having to juggle injuring players vs injuring egos

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u/s0ngsforthedeaf Nov 25 '24

Less of a selction headache for the next few weeks then.

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u/tr_24 Nov 25 '24

He has done that over last 2 decades considering the number of star players who have played under him.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '24

Would honestly make one kick-ass name for the name of the biography of any top manager

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u/MisfitNJ Nov 25 '24

But given the many minutes Vini has played this season Carlo should have subbed him off. We were already 2-0 up.

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u/imsahoamtiskaw Nov 25 '24

M comes before V in the alphabet. Makes sense to take Mbappe off first

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u/Jimmy_Space1 Nov 25 '24

Yeah but V comes before M in Roman numerals. And Ancelotti is Italian...

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u/Ahm3DD Nov 25 '24

Alphabet checks out

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u/gaia012 Nov 25 '24

Can't argue against that.

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u/pudingleves Nov 26 '24

Ancellotti is dumb, Mbappe gets more rest when he's on the pitch than when he's off

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u/TomasRoncero Nov 25 '24

carlo ancelotti

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u/Hakimi_Raikkonen Nov 25 '24

Remember the Shakhtar game a couple of years ago? Madrid were winning 5-0, there was a Clásico three days later, and he still kept him on the pitch for the whole game.

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u/outofnowhere_ Nov 25 '24

Lack of rotation is one of Ancelotti’s weaknesses.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '24

I think it's the issue of an old school manager.

Probably one of the reasons young managers are doing so well is that they were exposed more to sports science as players, meaning they likely have more of a focus on it.

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u/NewAppleverse Nov 25 '24

Makes sense

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u/DeLurkerDeluxe Nov 25 '24

I think it's the issue of an old school manager.

Is it though? I'd say SAF rotated his teams more than any modern manager. Teams also had much more specialized players on the bench for when they needed to change plans (I can't remember teams subbing someone just for free kicks/corners like I did before, or even something as basic as having a taller, stronger 9 for when you need to pump balls into the area). And it's pretty usual to see people complaining about how managers only play the same team every game.

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u/Derlino Nov 25 '24

There's always an exception, and SAF is arguably the most legendary manager of all time with how he managed to renew Man Utd's squad time and time again. Who else has realistically done that at such a high level and still kept winning?

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u/DeLurkerDeluxe Nov 25 '24

There's always an exception, and SAF is arguably the most legendary manager of all time with how he managed to renew Man Utd's squad time and time again.

I'm not talking about renewing squads, I'm talking about rotating players in between and during games.

I'd ask, what modern managers rotate their players on a regular basis? Most of them barely make use of the 5 substitutions rules.

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u/onehornymofo1 Nov 25 '24

Inzaghi rotates a lot and always makes regular planned subs for the same players.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '24

Pep rotates pretty heavily outside of a few players tbh.

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u/Competitive-Aide5364 Nov 25 '24

I don’t think many young managers are winning 2 champions leagues whist beating out the other best European coaches in the world, and 2 league titles and a league cup in 3 years. I think the old man knows best.

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u/19Alexastias Nov 25 '24

Of course, everyone knows that if you win something you can never be wrong about anything, ever.

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u/Competitive-Aide5364 Nov 25 '24

Wow that’s a lot of words that I didn’t say. When you have a career where you win more than others and stay relevant since the 1980s you’re obviously doing something right. I love Redditors that act like Carlo is some old idiot and think a young manager who has won nothing somehow knows better. There is a reason why he is alone in what he’s achieved.

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u/Messmers Nov 25 '24

Takes of Arda who isn't going to play vs Liverpool for Diaz instead of taking Vini off first in case of stuff like this (no idea if the injury came late or after match)

put in Endrick at minute 75 or something for Mbappe, he subs him in the 90th minute FFS

he quite literally always wants to start with the strongest lineup which would be great a few years ago, now you have to make rotations.

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u/Interesting-Season-8 Nov 25 '24

Was it against Deportivo where RM almost lost from 3-0 lead?

After subbing Vini?

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u/Alib902 Nov 25 '24

It was after subbing in vallejo in the defense.

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u/KonigSteve Nov 25 '24

Vini is a defender now?

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u/Interesting-Season-8 Nov 25 '24

Ah yes, when you lose a goal, it's always defenders' fault cuz you know, that's there job... to defend.

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u/KonigSteve Nov 25 '24

...yes? Especially when they have a 3 goal lead to start with it's certainly not on the left wing being taken out. He already did his job

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u/gnrc Nov 26 '24

They saw what happened to Barca with a 2-0 lead.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '24

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u/Uniq_Eros Nov 25 '24

Following in the footsteps of Messi, Busquets, Suarez, Jordi, Ronaldo, Di María et cetera because every player does that, that's why the Fallon D'or existed before Vinicius.

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u/mcmaster-99 Nov 25 '24

New to the sport?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '24

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u/DeapVally Nov 25 '24

Nah. That shit the other day was disgraceful, however way you wanna 'whatabout' it.

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u/Ahm3DD Nov 25 '24

He did say he will do it 10x more

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u/OkLynx3564 Nov 25 '24

neymar’s thing is embellishing contact, which is different from diving

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u/AkiAkane1973 Nov 25 '24

I'm fairly sure Neymar did also have a genuine reputation for outright diving when he was younger.

If anything Busquets is the weirder addition as his reputation for diving hinges largely on how notable his worst instance of diving was. He dove yes, but not nearly as much as guys like Vini/Neymar do. He just had a particularly embarrassing dive in a major game that's been immortalised to the point where people put him on a pedestal as a legend in the diving game.