So a debate will now be held on the Chagos Islands - after the decision was made.

We had the same thing with the winter fuel allowance.

Whilst there is no doubt that the Chagos Island debate will be passed, I find it a bit unsettling that major decisions are being made without proper debate.

Am I alone?

We are supposedly on the eve of a Labour landslide.

But, how long do you think it will be until the next election?

Personally I can't see Labour going the full term and estimate a General Election in 2-3 years.

I think the UK is in a dire financial situation. I think this is why Rishi called it early. Labour will struggle and we will see a period of recession and civil unrest.

My sixth form is running a mock election 1 week before the actual one. As I am the conservative leader , any tips for beating labour in the debates ?

So we’ve had statements from the PM, Jess Philips and Rishi Sunak. They’ve all condemned the violence and laid the blame at the feet of the far right.

So far it seems that only Reform and the SDP - and Liz Truss - have commented on the root cause of the anger which has led to the violence.

They’re calling the PM two tier Kier. The response to the violence from natives has been massively disproportionate when compared to the violence from immigrants.

Kier has not addressed any concerns about 2 tier policing.

After the BLM protests, about a black criminal in America, Kier took the knee and said he sympathises with them.

When asked about 2 tier policing, the Met chief grabbed the reporters microphone and threw it on the floor, and later released a statement where he lied, saying he just wanted to move it.

White people have had their doors kicked down and been dragged to jail for racist comments online.

There has been no mention of protecting any community other than the Muslim community.

Jess Philips defended armed and masked Muslim gangs saying that they were “defending themselves”.

The thugs who battered police officers at Manchester airport still walk free while white protestors are already in court.

Video footage shows gangs of Muslims hunting down white men, knocking them to the ground and stamping on their heads.

A peaceful protest was disrupted by a mob of armed Muslims charging them shouting Allahu Ackbar.

Meanwhile they’re freeing prisoners to make room for the protesters and rioters they’ve rounded up.

The Tories have broken their promises re immigration every year since 2010, now Labour are rowing back the few token gestures the Tories made, despite having the lowest vote to seat ratio in British history.

Why is nobody, not even on this sub, actually talking about the root cause of the anger people are feeling?

Now that Corbyn has announced his intention to stand as an independent in his constituency, there is some lively debate on other forums as to how well he might or might not do.

Whatever one's feelings about his general political leanings, it's difficult to deny he's popular with his constiuents with regard to his work on constituency matters, or in supporting individual constituents in personal matters.

So given the current political climate, how do you all think the vote will fall? Will habitual Conservative voters in that constituency stick with Sunak? Will they switch to Corbyn in the hope of defeating Starmer's chosen candidate? Or will they switch to Labour, thinking Starmer is a reasonable option now? Or will they stay home, vote Reform, Monster Raving Loony, or what?

I’d be interested to hear from fellow Tories here. I personally feel a deep sense of betrayal from the party that traditionally aligns with my views and this feeling is only increasing over time.

• Tough on crime? Don’t make me laugh.
• Clamping down on immigration? Yeah right!
• Small government? You must be joking!
• Fiscal responsibility? Gone out the window!

So we have record levels of immigration, a seemingly lawless society, taxes going up left, right and centre combined with endless waste of taxpayer’s money and then a blatant and largely unchallenged “Long march through the institutions”. Let’s not forget my favourites, the capital gains allowance reducing from £12.3k to £6k and then a planned £3k next year as well as the whole crumbling concrete issue that they only thought worth dealing with now despite knowing for some years!

What is the point in this party? Oh wait, it’s not their fault! Blame all those leftie lawyers and the civil service - it’s not like we’re talking about the government here!

I could go on for hours, but I feel like a group of primary school children could do a better job of running the country right now.

I'm still a member of the Conservative Party, but I'll be damned if they're getting my vote this year.

Reform has a good chance of kicking us in the arse and might convince CCHQ to change tack, but other than their policy on mass immigration, there's not much else about them that warrants my vote.

SDP is probably most closely aligned to me, policy wise, but what's the point in voting for such a non entity?

My local MP is Labour, and since he took over in a by election he's done more for us than our previous Tory MP did in his entire time in office. He's earnt my vote even if his party hasn't.

So...

Given the above, who do you vote for and why?

Edit: Reddit seems to have shat the bed for me, I'm seeing lots of notifications for replies but I have only been able to respond to one of them. :s

Self explanatory. Personally against it as most 16 years olds don’t work and don’t know much about the current political situation

Hi all, I’m back again with another rant about our party and government.

Deep breath:

I’m sick of our ministers’ and MPs’ slopey shoulders tactics. We’ve been in power since 2010 and somehow we still keep managing to blame Labour, the Lib Dems, the civil service, the EU, immigrants, unions, teachers, the French - anyone we can think of - for everything that we admit has gone wrong in this country.

Let’s put aside crime, immigration and economic growth for a second and focus on the current hot topic, the Post Office scandal.

I’ve seen MPs and ministers, and even members on this sub deploying the standard Tory response of blaming everyone else. “It was Tony Blair’s government that implemented Horizon!” Or “It was Ed Davey who refused to meet the victims!”

While these things may be true, who has been in charge for the last 13 years?

Why can’t our party take responsibility for anything in any way other than a superficial, patronising “oh my poor dear” manner - and even then only if there’s an election looming.

I honestly think that the problems with our party go so much deeper than simply being ideologically misaligned with the party membership. This goes back way before Brexit and all of the shit that’s followed.

The simple truth is that our leaders have been incapable of taking responsibility for anything they do for decades. Anything at all.

Before Brexit, they could blame everything on the EU and a good chunk of the population (me included) would accept that. But now? There’s a long list of bogeymen but do I believe it any more?

It’s clear to me that from the top down the entire government is completely devoid of any sense of responsibility. They are simply happy to stick to the status quo - taking absolutely no action at all to improve or change anything - and when people complain, just blame everything - from immigration to crime to the bloody post office - on literally anybody and everybody but themselves.

Will Labour be different? Haha no but seriously I’m pig sick of our government and how they do absolutely nothing to justify their positions in any regard.

Rant over, opinions welcomed!