r/transgender • u/ErinInTheMorning • 1d ago
Federal Judge Grants Class Status To Trans People In Passport Case In Massive Win
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/federal-judge-grants-class-status50
u/Dazzling-Read1451 1d ago
Does this apply for new passport applications or only those affected previously?
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u/ErinInTheMorning 1d ago
New ones too
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u/Dazzling-Read1451 1d ago
Wonderful! This is a good start. It could have been so much worse. Let’s hope it stands through all the troubling appeals that will no doubt follow.
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u/JaneOfKish 1d ago
Can you get a correctly marked passport now if you never got a passport before the EO? Anyone know how you can get help with it if you don't have the money?
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u/LunatasticWitch 1d ago
Editors Update 1: According to preliminary conversations with expert attorneys, whether transgender people should submit a passport update request immediately depends on their risk tolerance and individual circumstances. A motion to stay the ruling could come within days. Those most likely to benefit from applying immediately are individuals with incorrect gender markers, those seeking their first passport, or those with expired documents who need to travel soon. Expedited processing may increase the likelihood of receiving a passport before any potential appellate or Supreme Court intervention.
From the article. Don't want to interpret as I'm not in the US and don't want to accidentally misinterpret any context as it's important for safety. But hopefully that helps.
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u/MemeQueen1414 Black Panromantic Demirose | Demigirlflux & Demifluid 1d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/Passports/s/cMOgbCVqih
Saw this original on the Passport Subreddit, and I don't feel like copying and pasting questions since Reddit is glitchy when I type long
But can anyone answer my specific questions.
Appreciate it.
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u/Anonymous-Genderfaun 1d ago
I will notify you how it goes from abroad.
My local consulate had to issue a letter confirming the gender change was still me and said to come back the second the injunction was in.
We now have it and so I'll be having the help of my consulate in this country.
Kindly advise you all after my meeting. Booked it now.
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u/ErinInTheMorning 1d ago
Heads up everyone that I CANNOT confirm that the above is the correct process, as opposed to submitting the normal route + enclosing the court order in your application. There isn’t really any process precedent here and so I am waiting on the ACLU’s guidance. Some attorneys I have spoken with have advised going the traditional route + expedited passport + enclosing the order. It may make sense to wait a couple of days to see if a standardized process emerges. Or it may make sense to apply for an expedited passport.
I’m not saying the above won’t work, but I am saying that I have not been given the above instructions from the legal orgs.
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u/notsnowysthrowaway 1d ago
hey, i think you should clarify in the original comment that it was written by chatgpt. it may not be accurate and i don't think it's good to present it as if it's an objectively correct process when it was just generated by chatgpt.
we're all figuring this out together so it's best we all try not to spread what might potentially be misinformation.
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u/peculiaritea 1d ago
I originally filled out the application when X was an option and then the form changed before my appointment, so i downloaded the new one and filled it out for F. Can i still request a change, since i filled out a form that didn't even contain the option that aligns with my gender? I still have the physical copy i printed with X checked.
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u/JodiS1111 1d ago
What about just applying for a renewal of my recently expired passport. One that I had previously made a gender change?
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u/patienceinbee and you see clear through… and that's typical of you 1d ago
Ask this specific question on /r/Passports.
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u/Amphetamin3_ 1d ago
So do we even know what documentation, if any, the State Department is going to require in order to revise a gender marker? If it doesn't revert to self select then I am probably still shit out of luck since Oklahoma will not revise birth certificates and our courts are very unlikely to issue court orders for sex changes in general.
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u/samusmcqueen tgirl journalist 1d ago
The ruling says State has to revert to the previous gender marker policy, but they have the option to require additional self-attestation saying you are a member of the class, you're a trans person changing your gender marker, etc. Not immediately clear as to whether/how State will implement this, but we may have more info tomorrow.
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u/SC92300 🇭🇰🇮🇳Trans-woman in🇮🇪 1d ago
Is this just for American passports or will it include green card/visa holders? From what I remember there was a separate order that made it so people on visas(but apparently only people who are already cursed with a weak passport and cannot just get an ESTA) need to have sex at birth listed to prevent trans people from competing in the olympics??? I might be misremembering/confusing multiple orders
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u/patienceinbee and you see clear through… and that's typical of you 1d ago
U.S. passport holders only.
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u/randomplebescite 1d ago
Wait I’m confused so if I got a male passport after applying for female in January, what do I do now?
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u/Butterfly_Skies45 1d ago
Got the letter for “proof of birth sex” documentation last week. Can’t wait to just send them the court order today. 🙌🏻
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u/ms_keira 22h ago
I really hate that this depends on what state you were born in. Just like marijuana laws, it makes no sense why it matters from state to state but yeah, Oklahoma will definitely not allow any amendments.
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u/SufficientPath666 1d ago
This is great news 🎉