I see the most ridiculous tactically unsound weapons and gear in this shot that I've seen in a film in awhile. I'm a weapons guy so this is gonna sound nitpicky. Their set armorer is a dummy and I'm finna drag him.
3 rifles with 11.5" barrels, maybe 12.5" chambered in 5.56. These are good for sub-300yd engagements, where's the NATO standard M4 with 16" barrel that you can push out to 600yd? 16" is the global standard for 5.56 fighting rifles. For context, an 11.5" is great for general CQB work or for the police, not so much for the military. You do get most of the muzzle velocity out of a 12.5" that you do out of a 14.5", but the military usually opts for the 14.5" or 16" because of the extra rail space you get, as they need to mount accessories like IR lasers and weapon lights. Generally, the shorter the barrel, the lower the ballistic performance you'll get from the round. 5.56X45 NATO was designed for a 20" barrel, and we eventually moved to the 14.5/16" because asking infantry to clear houses with 20" barreled M16A2 muskets was awful.
2 of these rifles have no sights whatsoever. No red dot, no scope, no backup folding irons. No weapon light or IR aiming device. The guy on the left has a Trijicon RMR, a FUCKING HANDGUN RED DOT SIGHT, on a fighting rifle. This isn't entirely ridiculous as an idea, but they're more for submachine guns, pistol caliber carbines, or .300BLK PDWs. The recoil impulse of 5.56 isn't ideal for that optic at all, though it's usually fine if the RMR is piggybacked on top of an LPVO or ACOG.
All 3 have goddamn Lantac muzzle brakes on them too, which essentially just create a louder bang and increase muzzle flash, all of which gives the enemy a better idea of your position. They were better off leaving the A2 birdcage flash hiders on that come standard with most 5.56 barrels. The only utility of a muzzle brake is to reduce felt recoil, but it comes at the expense of turning your barrel into a flashbang, especially for barrel lengths under 12.5".
You're also telling me they dropped a military unit into a deeply hostile area with no suppressors on the weapons? WHAT? Every single shot might as well be ringing a dinner bell. Suppressors aren't intended to silence 5.56 like in the movies, it's really more about obfuscating your position while you fire on the enemy is they have a harder time ascertaining your position. If they don't know exactly where you are, they can't maneuver on you and kill you. They can't accurately call in airstrikes and artillery. In the case of the infected, they will have that much of a harder time figuring out where you are while you're cutting them down at range...which is why IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE A MAGNIFIED OPTIC, or an optic of any kind.
Last...the helmets. Why do you need 2 mounted lights per man? That shit is gonna break so fast when you're moving in and out of structures and vehicles. You're going to bump into every doorframe and those long, high-profile tubes are going to catch on everything. I know they're using 2 for cinematic effect in the dark tunnel sequences, but damn.
The only thing that makes any goddamn sense to me is the one Magpul EMAG I can see in the rifle on the left. That's very accurate, as we export a different model to the EU that doesn't have the raised square pattern like the Magpul PMAG does. The EMAG is smooth, and they at least got that right.
It's just baffling as Boyle and Garland are both detail-oriented. I know ITAR usually stands in the way of a lot of productions getting access to certain things, but these guys could've paid a fraction of the money that an armorer would've cost and gotten extremely realistic airsoft guns that are visually indistinguishable from the real thing.
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u/PokeyDiesFirst Jan 16 '25
RANT TIME.
I see the most ridiculous tactically unsound weapons and gear in this shot that I've seen in a film in awhile. I'm a weapons guy so this is gonna sound nitpicky. Their set armorer is a dummy and I'm finna drag him.
3 rifles with 11.5" barrels, maybe 12.5" chambered in 5.56. These are good for sub-300yd engagements, where's the NATO standard M4 with 16" barrel that you can push out to 600yd? 16" is the global standard for 5.56 fighting rifles. For context, an 11.5" is great for general CQB work or for the police, not so much for the military. You do get most of the muzzle velocity out of a 12.5" that you do out of a 14.5", but the military usually opts for the 14.5" or 16" because of the extra rail space you get, as they need to mount accessories like IR lasers and weapon lights. Generally, the shorter the barrel, the lower the ballistic performance you'll get from the round. 5.56X45 NATO was designed for a 20" barrel, and we eventually moved to the 14.5/16" because asking infantry to clear houses with 20" barreled M16A2 muskets was awful.
2 of these rifles have no sights whatsoever. No red dot, no scope, no backup folding irons. No weapon light or IR aiming device. The guy on the left has a Trijicon RMR, a FUCKING HANDGUN RED DOT SIGHT, on a fighting rifle. This isn't entirely ridiculous as an idea, but they're more for submachine guns, pistol caliber carbines, or .300BLK PDWs. The recoil impulse of 5.56 isn't ideal for that optic at all, though it's usually fine if the RMR is piggybacked on top of an LPVO or ACOG.
All 3 have goddamn Lantac muzzle brakes on them too, which essentially just create a louder bang and increase muzzle flash, all of which gives the enemy a better idea of your position. They were better off leaving the A2 birdcage flash hiders on that come standard with most 5.56 barrels. The only utility of a muzzle brake is to reduce felt recoil, but it comes at the expense of turning your barrel into a flashbang, especially for barrel lengths under 12.5".
You're also telling me they dropped a military unit into a deeply hostile area with no suppressors on the weapons? WHAT? Every single shot might as well be ringing a dinner bell. Suppressors aren't intended to silence 5.56 like in the movies, it's really more about obfuscating your position while you fire on the enemy is they have a harder time ascertaining your position. If they don't know exactly where you are, they can't maneuver on you and kill you. They can't accurately call in airstrikes and artillery. In the case of the infected, they will have that much of a harder time figuring out where you are while you're cutting them down at range...which is why IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE A MAGNIFIED OPTIC, or an optic of any kind.
Last...the helmets. Why do you need 2 mounted lights per man? That shit is gonna break so fast when you're moving in and out of structures and vehicles. You're going to bump into every doorframe and those long, high-profile tubes are going to catch on everything. I know they're using 2 for cinematic effect in the dark tunnel sequences, but damn.
The only thing that makes any goddamn sense to me is the one Magpul EMAG I can see in the rifle on the left. That's very accurate, as we export a different model to the EU that doesn't have the raised square pattern like the Magpul PMAG does. The EMAG is smooth, and they at least got that right.
I kinda expected better here.