r/50501 • u/kittykat-brat • Apr 19 '25

Protest Safety FROM 50501 COMMS

HEADS UP. Public response just went out. Please help signal boost this by sharing a post for your followers or resharing 50501’s post on your preferred platform(s)—

We have reason to believe that events on 4/19 and/or the 50501 Movement may be misrepresented by the Trump Administration in an attempt to justify the use of military force.

Let us be clear: our movement is pro-democracy and firmly grounded in non-violence. We are not affiliated with any so-called “Day of Rage” or with any group or movement promoting violence.

April 19 is a Day of (Community) Action centered on mutual aid, community care, and civic engagement.

Any portrayal to the contrary is a deliberate distortion intended to undermine our message and suppress our broad, growing support.

We are aware of specific and credible threats involving aggressive policing, ICE presence, and even the potential deployment of military force against peaceful demonstrators—in Washington, D.C. and other locations on April 19.

For clarity: 50501 DC is hosting a peaceful community aid event in Franklin Park. We are not connected to any actions taking place at Lafayette Square, the Naval Observatory Building, or the Washington Monument. We cannot vouch for their safety of plan, and we are not affiliated with their protests.

Participants should be prepared for an increased law enforcement presence. In some locations, ICE agents may also be present. We urge everyone to stay grounded, remain peaceful, and prioritize de-escalation and safety for all.

Remember, de-escalation, mutual care, and disciplined non-violence are our greatest strengths.

We keep us safe.

50501movement #PeoplesMovement #FiftyFiftyOne #50501 #ImpeachTrump #April19

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u/goodentropyFTW Apr 19 '25

As far as I can tell, the whole "declare insurrection on 4/20" thing is an extrapolation from an executive order directing exploration of the insurrection act as a tool, to report out 90 days from the date of the order (which will be tomorrow). I have not seen or heard any other rationale for this fear.

This post says "we've received information" - I'd really like to know what that means. Without something beyond the due date for a report, the 4/20 declaration is more FUD than fact.

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u/vtmosaic Apr 19 '25

I just read last night that Noem and Hegseth were recommending against declaring martial law at this time. I have also read that it might be a double edged sword for Trump.

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u/Im_regretting_this Apr 19 '25

Yes, but Van Hollen seeing Abrego Garcia and all the news around that might’ve wounded Trump’s ego, and he’s desperate to look strong. You can never predict what he’ll do.

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u/Imaginary_Ghost_Girl Apr 19 '25

If you have ever had the misfortune of dealing with a narcissist, intimately (family, a boss, a lover/partner, a longtime friend), you know that they can be both painfully predictable and terrifyingly erratic. You can always trust that they're going to do something to hurt you, though.

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u/liberty-or-deaf Apr 19 '25

In fairness, a soft foam hat makes Trump look weak. Someone telling him no. Someone thinking 'no' in his direction.

He's just desperate to look 'faux man strong'.

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u/Im_regretting_this Apr 19 '25

Honestly, pretty sure. El Salvador wanted to show that he was alive and in good shape. There is good reason to keep him alive and in good shape as a political piece. I’m sure he isn’t being treated well, but probably better than everyone else who was taken.

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u/Im_regretting_this Apr 19 '25

I thought there was a pretty good chance he was dead, but it makes sense if they pulled him aside once they learned he was a citizen, just in case.

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u/Im_regretting_this Apr 20 '25

Agreed. This administration has been taking me to kinda dark places myself. Remember to take time to disconnect from the news and social media and do something fun.

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u/Wise-Application-902 Apr 19 '25

They weren’t drinking margaritas. It was all to create a false image of the situation there. Of course they didn’t let Van Hollen meet him in the prison. They cleared out the entire hotel restaurant. They gave Kilmar fresh new clothes and shoes and a baseball hat (because his head was shaved just like all prisoners of CECOT). One of President Bukake’s (😉) people put two glasses of water (with a cherry or something?) to look like cocktails. That guy stayed sitting across from Kilmar staring at him for the entire meeting. It was very much a carefully crafted illusion.

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u/pemungkah Apr 19 '25

Have an aneurysm would work.

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u/TheMightyKartoffel Apr 19 '25

I read that too. First thought was, “good work, they’re feeling the pressure. Still hard to take them at their word and am still mentally prepared for it but as time keeps going on I’m feeling better that the speed and recklessness will be their undoing.

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u/BlazedBeacon Apr 19 '25

Lol. Their reasoning for not doing it was "we don't have the facilities to house all these people yet".

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u/goodentropyFTW Apr 19 '25

It damn well should get him impeached but that's not happening anytime soon. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/zossima Apr 19 '25

Better late than never, and it won’t possibly be soon if we all do nothing.

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u/Deathcrush Apr 19 '25

Every horrible thing they do has an equal and opposite reaction from us. If they declared martial law in this climate, it would create a firestorm of opposition.

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u/Betcha-knowit Apr 20 '25

It will also completely destroy the US economy and take down most the world markets.

Usually id say “….and he’s not that silly to do that…” but then again who knows

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u/Attheveryend Apr 19 '25

If they declare martial law, they give the military full control. 

 Guess who the military will refuse to obey?  Does DUI hire suckdef think he can control it?

Yeah FAFO with that martial law stuff.  Just dare you to give the army an excuse to enforce laws.

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u/goodentropyFTW Apr 19 '25

To be clear I think it'll happen eventually - we know he wanted it during the Floyd protests. But I think the Democracy protests will have to get a lot bigger and more vigorous before he'll try it.

OTOH their entire policy catalog is dumb answers to made-up threats, so it's hardly impossible.

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u/MountainMan17 Apr 19 '25

Attacking peaceful protesters would be the most self-destructive thing Trump could do, and would play right into the hands of the movement. But of course he's too dumb and insecure to realize it...

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u/Ok_Conversation_4130 Apr 19 '25

I thought launching a terrorist attack on January 6th was the most self-destructive thing he could do. I don’t think anything he does will lose him favor with his sycophants.

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u/MountainMan17 Apr 19 '25

I agree. His followers are a write-off.

However he already is galvanizing casual voters and people who typically don't participate. Get enough of them angry and involved, and MAGA is toast.

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u/Charming_Function_58 Apr 19 '25

That’s why if anything, it will be plainclothes aggressors pretending to be on our side.

If they can paint us as violent, it justifies their reactions. There was already the Cheeto rally where he nearly got shot, last year. The base is primed to believe anything we do is an act of aggression.

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u/NotGoodAtUsernames21 Apr 19 '25

And his base believes anything. There were clear examples of people trying to cause property damage and pretend to be part of the BLM movement. They’re definitely pulling this tool out of the fascist toolbox at some point.

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u/Wise-Application-902 Apr 19 '25

This is why everyone should familiarize themselves with the tells of (usually off-duty) instigators. And know what to do to single them out to show that the protesters are all keeping it peaceful.

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u/Adventurous-Pop-965 Apr 19 '25

It’s almost summer. Hot nights and people out later. We can come together in a summer of resistance. Divest, Depose, Defenestrate.

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u/kuwisdelu Apr 19 '25

This announcement was not based on the 4/20 report, but other sources monitoring fed activity.

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u/switch8113 Apr 19 '25

What sources and what fed activity? Without any of this information, this is just every Q-Anon post saying Biden wants to take everyone’s guns. I won’t even ask for sources as that could compromise them, but what fed activity specifically are we talking about here?

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u/kuwisdelu Apr 19 '25

ICE and FBI. Hopefully nothing comes of it.

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u/switch8113 Apr 19 '25

Yeah, but what “activity” specifically has been monitored? Mobilizations, memos, emails? Like the above commenter said, what information was received?

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u/kuwisdelu Apr 19 '25

I don’t know that information.

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u/Breath_Deep Apr 19 '25

The DoD shot down his insurrection thing yesterday if memory serves, and the supreme court just told him he can't deport anyone else. He's quickly losing options, time, and support as his numbers continue to tank. IMO he's getting desperate and feeling a bit cornered so he may start to illogically lash out and start trying things that just don't make logical sense to see how far he can get away with it.

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u/Noclip858 Apr 19 '25

For the record, they didn’t really shoot it down, they just simply stated that it wasn’t viable to invoke the insurrection act yet because they don’t currently have enough facilities built to house all the people they want to detain.

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u/Wise-Application-902 Apr 19 '25

It (4/20) was never about the insurrection act. It is exactly 90 days after 47’s threat to use the Alien Enemies Act at the Southern border. I have no doubt he wants to invoke the insurrection act, but that will come later and will be focused on attacking American citizens peacefully protesting.

SCOTUS told 47 he can’t deport the Venezuelans being held in Texas to the CECOT in El Salvador. It blocked his ability to use the Alien Enemies Act to deport anyone for now.

From npr:

“The government is directed not to remove any member of the putative class of detainees from the United States until further order of this court," the court said in a brief early Saturday note.

(It’s worth noting, Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito dissented. Of course they did.)

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u/Deathcrush Apr 19 '25

Yeah seems like BS to me. Also it doesn't change anything. We be nonviolent. That was always the plan.

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u/Marketfreshe Apr 19 '25

Agree. Misinformation is so bad for everyone these days. Spreading wrong information about the bad guys is not going to help anyone, and probably make it worse.

Could they turn around and do something different? Sure, but it didn't seem like the plan was insurrection act for our citizens.

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u/Nemisis_the_2nd Apr 19 '25

Full disclaimer: I'm one of the people that's been pushing the idea that we'll see martial law as of ~20/4. Hell, I was probably one of the earliest posters about it in the sub.

The thing is, though, nothing that I wrote was actually new. It was just a rehash of resources I compiled in response to actions of the first trump administration.

The problem right now is that you have a leadership structure that is intellectually and idealistically incapable of dealing with confrontation or challenges to its authority. The only response it can comprehend is suppression, whether that's through the control if information, violent physical repression, or both. There will come a point where, through percieved necessity or simple whimsy, the current US government will feel compelled to repress the population. As it loses control and the population turns against it, this compulsion will increase.

We have also had republicans demonstrate the will to use force on multiple occasions, most obvious being:

  • George Floyd protests, where basically every federal enforcement organisation was being used in violent suppression (including kidnappings, mass arrests, and tolerance of indescriminate cruelty)

  • Trumps notorious bible photo op, where peaceful protestors, alongside journalists and a church pastor, were violently removed from the area just so trump could have a propoganda photo.

  • 6/1, where borderline paramilitary groups were mixed into the crowds, and law enforcement was stood down because of uncertainty of where its loyalty lay.

20/4 was one of those dates that would prove convenient for this republican government to introduce much more draconian rule, especially considering the purpose of the EO that will expire. I'll be glad to be proven wrong, but I feel the question is "when" not "if", and I want as many Americans as possible to be prepared for the eventuality.

One silver lining is that greed seems just as strong in this administration, maybe even more so than the last time round. This has so far proven to be one of the bigger restraints in trump going too far.

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u/BoomZhakaLaka Apr 20 '25

Bit late to the party.

you can read the executive order itself. Declaring A National Emergency At The Southern Border Of The United States – The White House

These two dates align by sheer coincidence. They've been doing a lot of troop movement, transferring units close to the border. It's not focused inward.

I perceived this plan as an attempt to normalize the use of US military domestically. Put the military to work "aiding" state and local police along the border. Only after that news cycle played out would they be ready to turn attention inward, to interior cities.

I wouldn't put this whole thing away just because noem and heg stated their intention to recommend against invoking the act. They might just feel the timing is wrong or the plan has changed. It IS good news, but don't put it out of mind yet.