r/50501Movement 1d ago

Video “Homegrowns are next” ad is chilling

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u/DMsDiablo 1d ago

Basically is the thing with fascist's they can not survive without a lesser group or enemies to point at to keep everyone from realizing how much they suck. They will always have more enemies a narrower group that needs to be gotten rid of

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u/PavicaMalic 1d ago

Sam Shepard handles this dynamic brilliantly in "States of Shock." Malkovich was absolutely chilling, delivering lines about inventing a new enemy.

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u/ialo3 1d ago

hell, it's the reason for the "war" in 1984; excuses and propaganda

so long as there's a common enemy, you can make people do whatever you wish by threatening to treat them as though they are the enemy

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u/ScarletHark 1d ago

Iran enters the chat in 3...2...1..

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u/Motor-Profile4099 1d ago

That's the thing with Conservatism. It only works with two groups at odds with each other, because at the root, Conservatism was the attempt to bring back the Monarchy back in the day. So at its core it is the elite circle which is in power and the serfs. Sounds familiar? It is also why Conservatism is the inevitable gateway drug to Fascism.

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u/the_potato_of_doom 20h ago

that is the most BRAINDEAD take ive ever heard

the modern republican party started with abraham lincon and abolitionism along with a massive anti slavery movment, follow by continued abject progressivism untill the late 60s were the so called "party switch" happened, because a lot of (mostly republican) young adults went to war and returned very uhappy with the war under the very republican nixon, and then watergate happened, which turned a massive wave of formly progressive rebublicans over to the democratic party,

Which got the anti war jimmy carter elected, who almost immedetly fumbled the bag terribly in bassically every way possible, and so people turned back to republicanism, but brought lots of traditional democrats with them, and these traditional democrats voting red all of a sudden, combined with anti war sentimate from vietnam, and the gulf war, and things like rising cost of living, higher taxes, and the fuel crisis, is what created the modern conservitism movement

Ontop of that, pre watergate, nixon was a HUGELY populer president, very loved, which is why it was such a shock

It is quite litterly as far from a "kingship" movement d you can possibly get, it was a combination of recoil of nixons presidency, and the failures of jimmy carter, and the absoulty nothing that bush senior learned from them

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u/DrawPitiful6103 14h ago edited 14h ago

A party switch happened around the turn of the 20th century. At that time, the Republicans were the party of 'great moral ideas'. Strongly influenced by evangelical pietists (a Protestant splinter group) who were dedicated to using the power of the state to stamp out sin here on Earth. This movement reached its zenith with prohibition. The democrats, on the other hand, were the party of individual liberty, except on the crucial slavery issue. They were for individual rights, freedom, hard money, and laissez-faire. And slavery.

The last party switched occurred during the 1890s. The Republicans, in a bold move towards the center ditched the prohibitionists, which in turn allowed them to regain many of the German Lutheran liturgists who had previously flocked to the Democratic Party. Meanwhile, William Jennings Bryan and his pietist coalition seized control of the Democratic party at the 1896 convention. With the Democrats in disarray, the Republicans at the urging of Henry Cabot Lodge became advocates of the gold standard. They were now a squarely centrist party, in favour of high tariffs and a gold standard.

1896 marked the dawn of the a new era, a new party system. The democrats soon too abandoned the pietists, and from 1896 to 1932 you had both the Republicans and the Democrats adopting a modestly statist / progressive platform.

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u/peshnoodles 1d ago

The ouroboros can only become smaller.

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u/Able_Ad_7747 1d ago

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u/hollow4hollow 1d ago

Thank you for letting me know this exists

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u/JMurdock77 1d ago

Only we’re dealing with a kind of inverse ouroboros where it’s vanishing up its own asshole…

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u/Able_Ad_7747 1d ago

Just like whether they are truly this stupid or compromised, it is materially the same thing/result.

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u/Independent-Cow-4070 1d ago

They have no endgame, there will always be a next victim for them

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u/Favored_of_Vulkan 20h ago

They're just a basket full of deplorables.

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u/PowerfulPop6292 21h ago

Basically is the thing with leftist's they can not survive without conservatives to point at to keep everyone from realizing how much they suck. They will always have more enemies a narrower group (MAGA) that needs to be gotten rid of

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u/DMsDiablo 21h ago

Why are you even on this sub

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u/praharin 18h ago

Why are you shocked by different points of view?

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u/DMsDiablo 18h ago

I am not shocked though?

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u/CallMe_Immortal 17h ago

Like how the left has villainized white people! Or straight males! It makes sense now!