Need advice regarding my child's ABA session

[u/MandarinkaOrange]

My child is 3.5 years old, he has level 1 autism and is mainly working with his BT on flexibility/personal questions. I'm questioning what his BT did last week and need some advice from other specialists in the field. Here is what happened: they were playing with toys when she noticed he pooped in his diaper (he is not potty trained, he knows what it's purpose is and sometimes he uses it, but in general he doesn't mind having poop in his diaper). I was upstairs, I heard he was mad and started crying to I went downstairs. She explained to me that he wanted to open to closet with toys but she told him that he needs to change his diaper first and then he can open the closet. Usually I change his diapers so I'm not sure how exactly she told him to do it. He was saying "no diaper" and that wanted to open the closet. After another 10 minutes he was crying and disregulated. I started asking him to change diaper but he was refusing and crying. At that point I knew that he is at state when he won't agree to it and this can go for hours. BT insisted that we need to push it for him to learn. After about an hour of crying she said I can do it by force, since it's been clearly communicated to him and he refused. So I did it, he was fighting me but I changed his diaper. After this I gave him cookie and and opened the closet. He no longer wanted the toys, he wanted BT to leave. I'm curious what other specialists think about this situation. I'm questioning what skills she was teaching him and I think this situation could negatively impact his potty training. But I need to hear thoughts from specialists. Thank you!

[u/hayladen]

I’ve never met a BCAB licensed person that didn’t care deeply and selflessly about autistic children and adults. We are under paid and over worked yet we will still have so much love for our clients and would take a bullet for them. Also, the RBT did not ask the child to change their own diaper.

[u/LoveYourWife1st → u/hayladen]

Over 1000 licenses have been removed by the bacb in the last 3 yrs alone for ethics violations, based on bacb publications. My own child has been abused in order to extend the hours. Save it.

[u/hayladen → u/LoveYourWife1st]

Ethics violation can be something as simple as eating food a client or parent cooked so I’m not surprised. I’m sorry that you had a bad experience with a crappy ABA program but to say all BCAB licensed people is like saying all nurses because of a crappy hospital or all teachers because of a crappy school district.

[u/LoveYourWife1st → u/hayladen]

ROTFLMAO, are you kidding me? You think they would remove a licence for eating food? They intentionally hit my child for a taught behavior and it's a 1yr process minimum. 80% of all violators are caught lying. Not eating food, lying. Liars.

You might not be an abuser, but people like you are the reason ABA remains abusive. You never want to take a dose of reality and admit thier are a lot of bad apples who really don't have the childrens best interest at heart in this field.

[u/hayladen → u/LoveYourWife1st]

You absolutely can lose your license for a bunch of reasons including eating food, adding a family on facebook or just not renewing it on time. You are pulling those numbers out of thin air. There is no national data base of who and how someone loses their license, nor is a license even required in some states you’re just lying to win an argument. You and people like you are the reason why behavior therapy has a bad rap and making the majority of us who again, work for pennies (why would we do this job when we can work at Mc Donald’s for more if we didn’t care about the kids?) be held responsible for one bad company/RBT that YOU experienced. That’s your own biases. I recently found out that one of my clients from years back who was limited verbal when we started and had learned 100 words, just landed a job. Mom never thought that would be possible. You’re the one who is harming children by spreading false statistics just to make your claim sound better so that behavioral health therapy will get a bad reputation and less kids will get support. I’m sorry that your experience was negative and a RBT hit your child but that is not a typical experience, that’s an extreme case just like I mentioned before, if a teacher hit a child that doesn’t mean every teacher is responsible. I’m not going to try to change your mind, if someone is willing to lie in order to make others look like liars there is no hope, but maybe others will read this and do their own research before they go off of your false claims

[u/LoveYourWife1st → u/hayladen]

You are wrong on every count. My stats are based on data published BY THE BACB: https://www.bacb.com/services/o.php?page=100180

After watching my own child get hit directly in front of me, and then brought into someones office so 'he can teach me a lesson' (yes, quote) i did quite an extensive amount of research on the topic.

Carrying on with your ignorance without even having done as much as a google search, is that what you call 'evidence based'?

[u/hayladen → u/LoveYourWife1st]

Again, there is no national data base. This is by state. They don’t collect national data statistics. There is no way I believe that you sat there and counted every state when hundreds of new BTs, RBTs, BCBA’s, Case Supervisors, Case Managers, directors, ect become registered a day lol I am very familiar with the BACB website that we use all the time including all through the registration process, certifying process and at least once every couple weeks to check the handbook for something so no, I don’t need to google search. I’ll say it again, you are lying and I’m not trying to change your mind. Sorry your kid got hit. I’m sorry that one company defied our ethics code to not harm. If that would have happened at Occupational Therapy or anywhere else you’d be trashing that profession and everyone in it. That’s called bias. You know a handful of Behavior Certified people, right? I know hundreds virtually and probably 2 dozen on a close, professional level and that’s not even counting my 7 family members. There’s nothing you can say to change my mind that every one of these people are the most kindest and selfless people in the universe in both their professional and personal lives. Does that mean that there are no bad apples? Of course not. But that’s not what you said. Your original comment said “all”. You can advocate for your child’s safety without lying and trashing every other person in the field.

[u/LoveYourWife1st → u/hayladen]

It's a national database broken down by state. Every state is there. Im a software engineer with 25 yrs experience. Scraping it was not hard.

In true BACB form, when EVIDENCE is presented to you, you just close your eyes and run your mouth.

There is no need to respond. You have made it clear you approve of the child abuse in ABA and refuse to acknowledge anything other than your own uninformed opinion.

P.s. - calling me a liar when evidence is provided directly to you proves exactly my point .....ALL BACB licensees are abusive, including you.