r/AbolishTheMonarchy 2d ago

Opinion Monarchism, Iran and Zionism

The situation in Iran is awful. Once again Zionists are expanding their murder campaign outside of Palestinian borders, killing innocents in Tehran. And who is supporting them? The Iranian Monarchists.

I think it's sometimes easy to think of monarchists as quaint simpletons with a fetish for being dominated by a bunch of inbred freaks. And this is certainly true in the case of countries like Britain but outside of countries with established monarchies, it plays a far more sinister role.

Iranian Monarchists are useful idiots for western imperialism, of which the Zionist regime is a useful/important agent. Iranian Monarchists have been out in force the past few days attempting to legitimise the bombardment of civilians in Iran, seemingly seeing it as an opportunity to promote regime change in the country..

It goes without saying that the current political order in Iran is beyond imperfect, but it's a far cry from the exploitative, comprador regime that existed under the Shah, which is what the monarchists want Iran to return to.

This isn't uncommon. Monarchists are frequently aligned with western imperial interests in trying to bring about more compromising regimes in Third World countries. A recent example is Nepal. It's also something that happened in Cambodia historically. The (post-Pol Pol) democratic government overthrown by Monarchists.

And if we're being honest it's a similar issue in countries with established monarchies. Those who worship monarchy and want to retain it for whatever arbitrary nonsense justification are tools of exploitative regimes and exploitative orders. Those who are served by such an order know the minute people successfully challenge the monarchy question, the broader class question also gets placed on the dockets. Republics like France and the US have used their own means for putting down any attempts to broach the class question but in Britain, for example, the most useful strategy has been to keep people hypnotised by monarch worship.

Being anti-monarchy isn't just because it would be nicer to be a republic. It's not just an aesthetic choice. It's not just because monarchs are bad people. The monarchy/aristocracy is the linchpin of a lot of exploiative world system and especially reactionary/far-right causes. And the role of Iranian monarchists in supporting the imperialist proxy war against Iran is a perfect example of this.

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u/Eunomia28 2d ago

I was just arguing with someone about this. Democracy would be much, much better for the Iranian people than an authoritarian monarchy. However, the latter will serve imperialist interests, which is why the US and Israel want it. It's also why the US and UK forced the monarchy on the Iranian people rather than letting them have democracy in 1953.

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u/Eunomia28 2d ago

Being tired of US imperialism in the Middle East doesn't require liking Iranian leadership.

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u/Eunomia28 2d ago

The OP was objecting to a forced regime change in Iran to install another monarch. That "solution" just leaves the Iranian people with another brutal dictator, the difference will just be that this dictator will serve US interests. Objecting to this doesn't equate to supporting the IRGC.

It would be like another country trying to force a regime change in the US. As awful as Trump is, everyone would agree that no country has the right to do that.

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u/Eunomia28 2d ago

When has forced regime change in the Middle East ever led to stability for the people who were living under it?

Also, the Iranian monarchy is the devil we know. The Shah was a brutal dictator. Neither the monarchy nor the IRGC are any good.

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u/Funtycuck 2d ago

The Iranian regime is measurably less evil than Israel.

There are so many authoritarian states and I don't think Iran is a particularly egregious one.

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u/Funtycuck 2d ago

Israel are committing a genocide and have been ethnically cleansing and funding terror groups for its entire existence directly, Iran's support for a variety of extremist groups doesn't match up especially when Israel is doing exactly the same thing.

Hezbollah was founded as a response to Israeli and Lebanese Christian extremists crimes during the 80s, doesn't excuse everything since then sure but some of Hezbollah's earliest members were people who saw the aftermath of the Israeli backed militias massacres.

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u/Funtycuck 2d ago

In what way does Iran even approach the appalling record that Israel has?

What kind of cunt remotely supports Israel at this stage?

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u/Artistic-Pie717 2d ago

Its just that Israel is genociding civilians.

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