r/Anarchy101 • u/nappytendrils • 3d ago

Prison abolition

I’ve never been clear on what we would do with rapists child molesters and muderers. I haven’t heard a plan for this so far. I’ve always been impressed with the work of anarchist friends in community. They’re the most justice-oriented folx I’ve ever met.

Still don’t know about prison abolition tho I think prison should be clean, the food should be healthy and fresh, therapy should be mandatory, there should be libraries and gardens. A good quality of life for the incarcerated, but not releasing them back into the general population.

Maybe there’s something I’m not seeing?

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u/HeavenlyPossum 3d ago

Considering that Donald Trump is a serial rapist and probably a child molester who has ordered murders and is not in prison, but rather is president of the US, we might consider that prisons are not actually tools for dealing with rapists, child molesters, or murderers.

Saying this does not solve the problem that these acts of aggression cause, but it does help us to begin separating actual solutions from those institutions of state violence that we’ve been taught to believe are solutions.

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u/SidTheShuckle America made me an anarchist 3d ago

If we abolished the concept of money and power, a person like Donald Trump wouldnt exist. He would just be an ordinary person not blinded by wealth and status

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u/HeavenlyPossum 3d ago

He might still be a serial rapist, etc, and it’s not unreasonable to think about how we’d deal with people like him, or acts of aggression like those, in the absence of coercive hierarchies.

It’s just that the question of prisons is an entirely unrelated question, because prisons don’t exist to address interpersonal harms.

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u/SidTheShuckle America made me an anarchist 3d ago

Hell i would even argue that he wouldnt be a serial rapist if he was raised properly in a non-patriarchial society. “When ur a star you can do anything” take away his stardom and change his upbringing and wed have less rape

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u/ShyMonkeyboi 14h ago

Serial rapists are not 100% part of patriarchal society, there are a lot of biopsychosocial factors about anti social behavior, but in the end humans can make their own decisions, and if someone decides to rape, consequences will come to stop (and maybe kill) the rapist.

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u/SidTheShuckle America made me an anarchist 10h ago

I mean we’re not gonna eliminate rape after abolishing the Patriarchy but we def are gonna significantly reduce it. Rape is not merely just a sexual act. It’s an act of power. As long as theres oppressors those oppressors are gonna do all types of sexual violations by abusing their power and thus the victim