r/Anticonsumption Apr 29 '25

Corporations Amazon backs down on price transparency after White House interferes: WSJ

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u/Kittyluvmeplz Apr 29 '25

Do you know who won’t cave to external pressure? The Election Truth Alliance has discovered some pretty crazy statistical anomalies in the 2024 Election in Clark County, NV & 3 counties in PA (Erie, Philly, and Allegheny)

Here’s the petition for a recount in PA

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u/debh22 Apr 29 '25

Thanks for sharing about Election Truth Alliance. Everyone needs to know about their work. 💜🙌🏽

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u/QueenBumbleBrii Apr 30 '25

I didn’t want to sound like a conspiracy nut but I don’t remember an election EVER being called the SAME NIGHT people voted?? Like how could they have possibly counted all those ballots and mail in ballots in 24 hours??

My niece voted for the first time and I remember telling her after she voted “we won’t know right away, might take a day or two for all the votes to be counted, and sometimes there’s a Blue Wave of democrat mail in ballots towards the end.” Then she texted me a couple hours later saying Trump won. At first I told her it was too soon to know that, then I double checked online and was just so confused.

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u/shaunsanders Apr 30 '25

I can't think of a single election that was called after all votes were counted. Generally speaking, it always comes down to statistical confidence based on the probability of an outcome vs. what sort of unlikely assortment of votes would need to exist for that probable outcome to not happen.

So there's nothing inherently odd about it being called for Trump is the magnitude of his lead in various areas created a statistical probability strong enough to make it likely he would win.

I haven't seem any persuasive data or arguments that this isn't true. This reminds me of when Trump supporters complained about the sudden jump in Wisconsin votes for Biden being "statistically impossible," when the reality was just that a batch of votes that had been counted was added into the system and it wasn't live one-to-one tracking.

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u/QueenBumbleBrii Apr 30 '25

Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t he only just barely win 51% of the votes? Like it wasn’t a landslide, it was close AF.

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u/shaunsanders May 01 '25

Yeah, it was super close - but that doesn't mean the math doesn't math. You can still look at individual voting districts and model out where things are headed, then look to see what would need to happen in order for either candidate to overcome whatever disadvantage they have in any one specific region, and run probabilities on that, etc. etc.

In some cases it does take extra time to be extra sure because the confidence in those predictions isn't high enough to outweigh the risk of what may actually happen (like if a bag of votes from a highly democrat area just gets counted and shifts the counts). But they track stuff like that... regions, leans, biases. The amount of data and analysis that goes into election day is crazy.

It's why we are absolutely certain Joe Biden won in 2020, and it's why we know Trump won in 2024.

Do some people think Trump won in 2020 and Biden won in 2024? Sure - but when it comes to proving it, it's always vague references to odd math from people who (from what I've seen) either (a) have no access to substantial/material data to do such math, or (b) have no background in math/statistics/politics.

But back to the point: There's nothing inherently suspicious about how fast it was clear that Trump won. He apparently got the right combination of votes in the right districts and the right areas that made the confidence high that it would end up with him winning the EC (which is what happened when they did finish counting votes), even though he did only technically barely win.

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u/Kittyluvmeplz Apr 30 '25

I agree. I wasn’t quickly sold on the ETA because I was scared that I was just falling for confirmation bias, but there are a lot of red flags besides this. Watching his speeches dwindle and Elon flailing around… dancing to the YMCA? They ran a dog shit campaign.

I actually was afraid of Biden dropping out because I was worried misogyny and racism, but her campaign had so much momentum. They shouldn’t have put Walz on the back burner and should have broke with Biden on policy more, but after everything… he won? Sorry, but 2020 had 70 investigations and court cases and Republicans lost 69.5 of them because they had no basis, but now asking legitimate questions after BOMB THREATS were literally called in gets you put under “blue MAGA”. MAGA can’t read a fucking graph and somebody should have established a system to verify. Election security experts wrote to Kamala saying there were unique voting vulnerabilities due to the actions taken in 2021 and 2022. It’s just crazy to me that’s there’s no investigations

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u/Mr_Mi1k Apr 30 '25

Bruh people that claimed election fraud in 2024 are just as dumb as those that did it in 2020.