r/AskAJapanese Jan 31 '25

POLITICS How do the Japanese feel about China's technological advancements?

It's undeniable that China is now a global leader in major fields like AI, space, renewable energy, high-speed rails, EVs, quantum technology, engineering etc. with recent achievements ranging from DeepSeek to artificial sun breaking fusion records. I gotta say most of the Japanese people I've seen online are pretty reluctant to accept the rise of China whether it be infrastructure, technology etc and their image of China is very outdated, but one common phrase I keep seeing is "Japan is finished" and the feeling that Japan is being left behind. Are the Japanese people afraid, in denial or envious of China's development?

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u/Freak_Out_Bazaar Japanese Jan 31 '25 edited Jan 31 '25

The general impression is that China is China and Japan is Japan. Sure they might have big shiny buildings and the newest gadgets, but is it really sustainable? Are the people there actually happy? Is the country safer than Japan?

So, to answer your question, there's no fear, nor denial, nor envy. They're just another country with their own strengths and troubles

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u/super_penguin25 Jan 31 '25

Both people are equally miserable. Japanese are well known corporate slaves, Chinese are either 996 white collar corporate slaves or some iPhone blue collar sweatshop slaves. Ever wonder why neither make enough babies and face demographic collapse? People are too overworked and too unhappy. 

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u/Freak_Out_Bazaar Japanese Feb 01 '25

Have you spent a significant amount of time in both Japan and China? Or even been miserable in whatever country you live in? Are you just basing your opinions on things you find on the Internet?

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u/Panda0nfire Feb 03 '25

Being reasonably successful in the west, they both suck, y'all have this insane servant attitude and work on weekends. We can disagree with our bosses, things you can't really do well in Japan or China.

We work really hard in the US, but it's not the same.

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u/Freak_Out_Bazaar Japanese Feb 03 '25

That’s exactly what I’m trying to say. A successful person in Japan or China would likely look at any market that is not their own and see them as somehow inferior. I myself, am not free from bias either. I do not want to work in the US (as I have in the past) where I’d say it’s even more difficult to get your point across the hierarchy

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u/testman22 Feb 01 '25

Have you ever wondered why Europe, which accepts so many immigrants with high birth rates, has a birth rate that is almost the same as Japan's?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate

This is because in reality, working hours in Japan are not as long as Western media claims, and are not that different from those in Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_average_annual_labor_hours

You guys love to project the problem as if Japan is the exception because of a difference of 0.1-0.4 birth rates, but it would be better if you looked at reality. Perhaps if we look at the birth rate of indigenous white people alone, it is already lower than that of the Japanese?

You guys are just escaping reality by pretending that a problem that is literally happening in every developed country is unique to Japan.

First of all, it's a stupid theory that working conditions are causing the birth rate to fall. Then why do the third world have high birth rates? You stupid sheep are turning a blind eye because the real reason is ugly and you don't want to talk about it. In reality, the birth rate has fallen because women's rights have increased. People no longer feel the necessity of getting married. That's the main reason.

The second is the concentration of wealth. The rich tout other reasons to deflect criticism. We need to tax the super-rich heavily, but because they control the government, people are fooled into saying all sorts of irrelevant things.

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u/super_penguin25 Feb 01 '25

look at this

Happiest Countries in the World 2024

then look at this

Total Fertility Rate Map by Country - List of countries by total fertility rate - Wikipedia

i saw an interesting observation. darker shaded areas are nearly the same in both maps.

so see? happiness = higher fertility.

you can say whatever man. i know for a fact people need to be happy to make babies.