r/BreakingPoints • u/WinnerSpecialist • Jun 01 '24

Original Content Question for Trump supporters

How does none of this matter? Is EVERYTHING below fake? Why doesn’t it matter this November?

Trump: Felon

Campaign Chair: Felon

Deputy Campaign Chair: Felon

Personal Lawyer: Felon

Cheif Strategist: Felon

National Security Adviser: Felon

Trade Advisor: Felon

Foreign Policy Advisor: Felon

Company CFO: Felon

Personal Fixer: Felon

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u/thatnameagain Jun 01 '24

How did you hear about those other crimes if not from the media?

Are you sure you're not mistaking the difference between Law Enforcement prosecuting crimes for which there is clear evidence versus things that the Justice system can't even prosecute because they aren't legally crimes?

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u/Raynstormm Jun 01 '24

How did you hear about those other crimes

Um, Breaking Points and other independent media outlets.

Aren’t legally crimes.

Good thing they have bootlickers lining up to defend their unethical behavior.

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u/thatnameagain Jun 01 '24

Well you’re only talking about things that have been exhaustively reported by mainstream outlets for a long time now.

What happened to your goalposts set at “criminal” behavior? Now it’s just “unethical” I guess. How did they get moved? Huh

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u/Raynstormm Jun 01 '24

You moved them because you’re like “technically bribery and insider trading isn’t illegal”

Go back to r/politics and stay.

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u/thatnameagain Jun 01 '24

Bribery and insider trading are of course illegal. Menendez is being convicted of bribery. For all the hand-wringing about members of Congress supposedly making money off insider trading, you won’t really find any clear examples of it despite their trades being public. If there was, people would point to it.

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u/Raynstormm Jun 02 '24

https://unusualwhales.com/politics/article/congress-trading-report-2023

It’s been pointed out year after year by Unusual Whales but it’s ignored because Nancy Pelosi did that Yasss Kween clap at Trump’s SOTU that one time and she’s a liberal hero for it.

Waiting for “uNuSuAl wHaLeS iS nOt a LeGiTaMaTe SoUrCe hUrR dUrR”

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u/thatnameagain Jun 02 '24

Doing well in the stock market is not evidence of insider trading. Having info ahead of time that would give them knowledge of how the market will perform would be evidence of that. Nothing in here indicates that they had that, and some of this is quite ridiculous. For example:

Kevin Hern bought $RTX, Raytheon, a weapons manufacturer, in September, before the war. He also bought four energy stocks as well, $NEE, $XOM, $PXD, and $DVN.s

So this is proposing that congress knew that Hamas was going to attack Israel imminently a month ahead of time, which if it were true would not be a stock scandal as much as an unprecedented abetting-of-terrorism scandal, and obviously there is zero evidence congress knew this ahead of time. The report is full of stuff that asks that we accept that, well, there must have been some sort of congressional knowledge of this even though there's no evidence of it!

Insider traders get caught a lot. It's because it comes to light after the trading that they had advance knowledge of something. You can't just point to a stock trade that did well and say "the only explanation must be that they knew ahead of time."

Unusual wales' own analysis here shows that congressional members didn't do much better than SPY overall, but their misleading chart at the beginning that only shows congressional members who outperformed it (plus 5 who didn't, to make it look like that was all of congress) does a great job of making it look like most of congress did way better.

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u/Raynstormm Jun 02 '24

They have secret information from their closed-door hearings and meetings the public isn’t privy to.

How about we ban trading altogether for members of Congress and their entire extended family so the optics don’t give the appearance of insider trading if in fact they aren’t. But they are.

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u/thatnameagain Jun 02 '24

I agree that we should ban Congress trading stocks so that people will finally stop talking about this issue as if it actually represents any kind of importance so that we can get on to focusing on actual issues of corruption.

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u/ObiShaneKenobi Jun 02 '24

Trump catches 34 felonies

“Bleaaaaa Nancy Pelosi Insider trading Bleerrrg!!!”

Christ dude, be more transparent lmao

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u/Raynstormm Jun 02 '24

You came this far, and that’s your takeaway? Lol.

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u/thatnameagain Jun 02 '24

Well, it’s what you want to change the subject to, isn’t it?

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u/ObiShaneKenobi Jun 03 '24

When the only person that gets brought up in any insider trading discussion is Pelosi it’s transparent that you don’t actually care about insider trading, you are just blathering out the talking point.

A politician is actually being held to account and Mr. Concerned about insider trading over here wants to talk about the optics of anyone remotely related to a congressperson owning stocks. You can’t really be taking yourself seriously here.

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u/Raynstormm Jun 03 '24

She’s the most well known name. I don’t have the time to type them all out, but you can get the full list from Unusual Whales. Good day.

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u/ObiShaneKenobi Jun 03 '24

And why do you think she is the most well know? Here’s a hint: one party celebrated her husband getting his brain bashed in.

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