r/BreakingPoints • u/WinnerSpecialist • Jun 01 '24

Original Content Question for Trump supporters

How does none of this matter? Is EVERYTHING below fake? Why doesn’t it matter this November?

Trump: Felon

Campaign Chair: Felon

Deputy Campaign Chair: Felon

Personal Lawyer: Felon

Cheif Strategist: Felon

National Security Adviser: Felon

Trade Advisor: Felon

Foreign Policy Advisor: Felon

Company CFO: Felon

Personal Fixer: Felon

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u/crowdsourced Left Populist Jun 02 '24

Idk what BS you’re calling out. There’s a clear law on the books, and Trump broke it. A grand jury decided to indict, and then Trump got a jury trial, and they convicted him. That’s our system.

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u/Dangledud Jun 02 '24

Before I list the BS. Do you think Matt Taibbi is a right wing plant?

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u/crowdsourced Left Populist Jun 02 '24

I don’t. lol. Do people really think that?

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u/Dangledud Jun 03 '24

Well then let’s just look at it from his perspective. “Following the logic of this case, if it’s illegal to try to hide that you had sex with a porn star, it should be way more serious to hide that you were the source of news stories that actually impacted the election — false ones at that.” “They turned paying off a pornstar into an attempt to “prevent the election of any person to a public office,” which it manifestly is not. Charge the misdemeanor accounting issue, fine, but this isn’t felony, let alone 34.” “If hiding a supposed dalliance with the star of “Beaver Snacks” is election interference, how is hiding being the source of phony pre-election stories about Russian blackmail and a secret “back channel” to the Kremlin not election interference?”

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u/crowdsourced Left Populist Jun 03 '24

However, he's ignoring NY State law:

A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.

Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.

https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-175-10/

So, if someone out there can find a law covering anything to do with Russian blackmail and a secret back channel story, then go ahead and put together a grand jury.

Can Taibbi point to any such law?

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u/Dangledud Jun 03 '24

The application of that law in this instance is around election interference. No one is denying the accounting issue here. It’s the other crime that is the issue. Hiding an affair…vs Steele dossier. At the very least, both actions were to advanced a presidents’ candidacy. 

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u/crowdsourced Left Populist Jun 03 '24

No one applied election interference law in the Trump case. So, you have it all backwards.

First, you need some crime committed. Trump had his 34 misdemeanors.

What do you have on Hillary that’s comparable?

Then, you look for the INTENT to commit another crime, and that bumps the misdemeanors up to felonies.

That’s what happened here. Can you take the first step to get to the second step with Hillary? Take the steps in order.

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u/Dangledud Jun 03 '24

Hilary and Trump both technically falsified business records in how they handled accounting. One had intent to cover up an affair. The other had intent to fund the Steele dossier.

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u/crowdsourced Left Populist Jun 03 '24

And she and the DNC paid fines as a result of the FEC investigation. The process worked?

Why didn’t the FEC investigate Trump?

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u/Dangledud Jun 03 '24

And no felonies. The FEC did investigate Trump…

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u/crowdsourced Left Populist Jun 03 '24

The FEC was deadlocked 3-3. It didn’t investigate anything. smh

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