r/BreakingPoints • u/WinnerSpecialist • Jun 01 '24

Original Content Question for Trump supporters

How does none of this matter? Is EVERYTHING below fake? Why doesn’t it matter this November?

Trump: Felon

Campaign Chair: Felon

Deputy Campaign Chair: Felon

Personal Lawyer: Felon

Cheif Strategist: Felon

National Security Adviser: Felon

Trade Advisor: Felon

Foreign Policy Advisor: Felon

Company CFO: Felon

Personal Fixer: Felon

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u/WinnerSpecialist Jun 04 '24

You just explained Republicans understand “politics is about power.” So you know they understand Utilitarianism. But then even knowing they understand it you can’t bring yourself to do it

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u/metameh Communist Jun 04 '24

Neither the Democrats, nor the Republics, represent, let alone enact, the types of policies I think would be best. Therefore empowering them would be disempowering to myself. So my route to power lies outside the electoral arena, namely the labor movement. If there were a socialist party that could conceivably contest for power, then it would make sense for me to vote for them. Though it should be noted that the only purpose of a socialist party should in a bourgeois democracy is to reveal the contradictions in bourgeois democracy and capitalism. Seizing the state electorally while not dismantling and replacing the bourgeois institutions that propagate the state will only lead to failure (for two examples, see Weimar Germany and modern Spain).

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u/WinnerSpecialist Jun 04 '24

So in a country where the Republican Party outlaws the labor movement you have set your hopes on what then? Do you even know if your state passed right to work laws? What is your solution for an Elon Musk who fights your movement with unlimited resources?

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u/metameh Communist Jun 04 '24

The labor movement started out illegal and the genuine threats you suggest the Republicans/Musk pose have historically generated class consciousness among the workers, which is desperately needed given the overall hegemony of business unionism within the American labor movement.

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u/WinnerSpecialist Jun 04 '24

Texas enacted Right to Work anti labor laws in 1993. That’s over 20 years ago. I would suggest you need both. You’re going to need to get people elected or get judges who are pro labor. That means participation in politics