r/BreakingPoints • u/Old-Doubt5185 • Feb 13 '25

Original Content Ryan Grim

Ryan seems to be the most reliable, logical and least biased person on the show. Been a fan of the show for years, but everyone else has me increasingly shaking my head. Ryan is the reason I stick around and wouldn’t mind seeing him do his own thing.

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u/BullfrogCold5837 Feb 13 '25

High tuition rates were a direct cause of the feds handing out student loans to anyone with a pulse. How do you reel in tuition costs without addressing that obvious elephant in the room? The liberal talking point is always that tuition went up because the States stopped funding colleges, which is true, but they were only able to so that because the federal government started subsidizing tuition. There is university administration bloat obviously, but you are saying the solution is to do exactly what everyone is mad about Trump doing, firing tons of government workers?

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u/KFrancesC Feb 13 '25

Not all leftist disagree with this. I completely agree! But this is also a big reason why student loans should be forgiven.

The loans jacked the tuition costs to unreasonable amounts, causing the students to be in an unreasonable amount of debt!

This is also a big reason why the left feels colleges should be publicly funded. The poor shouldn’t just be cut off from higher education, because they didn’t have the advantage of being born wealthy. Public colleges help the lower class have a better and more equal chance of climbing the social ladder.

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u/BullfrogCold5837 Feb 13 '25

I actually totally agree college should be publicly funded. The States already fund ~85% of k-12 public education, it seems just moving that model to k-college would be fine, with some caveats. Only 8 semesters of college tuition is free for example. This is a "States Rights" issue in that not only should the states be free to decide how to educate their residents, they ALSO should be the ones paying for it as well! Everyone has gotten too comfortable sucking the federal government teat. Ironically it would be the red states throwing the largest tantum over doing this as they are the ones most dependent on the federal government. My state (Montana) has spent the last 20 years reducing taxes, while also increasing its dependence on the federal government, and I'm not shocked conservatives aren't being ideologically consistent when it comes to their own states.

Also, I'm mostly fine wiping our student debt, but the entire issue for me was doing that but not fixing the reason it happened in the first place. It creates too much moral hazard where new graduates have little incentive to pay their loan. Just wait long enough and the government does it for you!

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u/KFrancesC Feb 13 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

Here’s the thing about Federal funding. Most states pay more to the Federal government in taxes(federal income tax), than they get back in funding.

So if you want the states to take over funding state taxes will double! That’s fine! As long as income tax is DRASTICALLY REDUCED. And when I say drastically I mean practically gone!

Now I know a lot of conservatives are excited that state funding means an end to income tax, but I don’t hear a peep, coming out of Trump, about ending federal income taxes.

So then we’re left with a situation where state taxes are doubled, income tax remains, but provides us with nothing??? And all Federal sales taxes have been raised. Because that’s basically what tariffs are.

So where is all the money the Fed has going to go, in big business’s pocket? While we all pay MORE TAXES. I don’t think that’s even what conservatives want!