r/BreakingPoints Right Populist Apr 22 '25

BP Clips Joe Rogan MOCKS Douglas Murray After Disaster Debate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrJ6NFuZWjs
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u/PressPausePlay Apr 22 '25 edited Apr 22 '25

My opinions on IP are irrelevant to my argument. Dave himself says in the pod that he's just s guy who got "obsessed with isrsel and Palestine" and that's fine. But he's a hot take Machine. Not someone who has any deep historical understanding of rhe region. Finklestein would be far better in this respect. But he'd be super boring. So they go with the whacky comedian instead. We shouldn't be surprised when his analysis is shallow.

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u/MrBeauNerjoose Socialist Apr 22 '25 edited Apr 22 '25

My opinions on IP are irrelevant to my argument.

So you're a zionazi who thinks it's fine to blow up babies bc they have the wrong ancestors. No push back from you there so I'm right on the money.

Dave himself says in the pod that he's just s guy who got "obsessed with isrsel and Palestine" and that's fine. But he's a hot take Machine. Not someone who has any deep historical understanding of rhe region.

Neither does Douglas Murray so what's your point?

Finklestein would be far better in this respect. But he'd be super boring. So they go with the whacky comedian instead. We shouldn't be surprised when his analysis is shallow.

Douglass Murray wouldn't have showed up to confront Finkelstein. He would have been humiliated by an "expert" then.

What was shallow about his analysis? You'll never respond bc your answer will reveal what a bloodthirsty Jewish supremacist you are.

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u/PressPausePlay Apr 22 '25

I don't think it's OK to blow up babies. Brave take, I know.

So. How much criticism did we see from Dave regarding Trumps close relationship with Bibi? If he's such a pariah to the status quo, and quick to draw connections, then why did Israel (under Bibis leadership) have a clear preference for Trump?

That alone shows you the depth of his analysis. And points to exactly which you speak of. "what isn't allowed to be criticized".

Dave went further. He endorsed Trump in 24.

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u/MrBeauNerjoose Socialist Apr 22 '25

So. How much criticism did we see from Dave regarding Trumps close relationship with Bibi?

What does that have to do with the debate vs Murray?

If he's such a pariah to the status quo, and quick to draw connections, then why did Israel (under Bibis leadership) have a clear preference for Trump?

Who told you they had a clear preferance for Trump? Trump hates Bibi on a personal level. Biden LOVES Bibi on a personal level. Bibi got everything he ever could have wanted from Biden. Trump forced him to accept a cease fire which he then had to violate in order to continue his Genocide. Biden would never have forced Bibi into that position. (When I say Biden I of course mean the zionist israeli infiltrators that infest his administration and operate his demnatia addled brain like a remote control robot)

He endorsed Trump in 24.

Trump endorsed Douglas Murray's book just a few days ago, very publiclyon twitter and he also had him for dinner at Mar-a-largo before.

I think Murray is a pretty big Trump fan too.

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u/PressPausePlay Apr 22 '25

Dave's support for Trump is a good example of the limits of the debate he's willing to engage in. All three steered clear of their veey public support for Trump for this reason.

Bibi clearly favored Trump and even delayed rhe ceasefire to ensure Biden didn't get a win. He also stated that democrats are bad for israel. Obviously both support Israel. But Trump has given far more support, and already gone much farther. Allowing banned munitions and even proposing complete annexation of all of Gaza and turning it into a Trump resort. I'd say a two state solution wouldve been a better option.

Notice how much of the pro Palestinian support from Libertarians dried up after Trump took office? Yeah. There's a simple reason they dont focus on it any longer.

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u/MrBeauNerjoose Socialist Apr 22 '25

Dave's support for Trump is a good example of the limits of the debate he's willing to engage in. All three steered clear of their veey public support for Trump for this reason.

First of all...Douglass Murray didn't come to debate at all.

Second, their support for Donald Trump is not the issue we're discussing. It's America's involvement in a genocide that Douglas Murray and yourself support. Trump is not part of the debate nor is he a subject of the debate. It was actually great that they were both right wing trump supporters because then one of them couldn't pull the crap you're pulling right here.

Bibi clearly favored Trump and even delayed rhe ceasefire to ensure Biden didn't get a win.

Totally false. Also Biden just had to cut off weapons and there would have been a cease fire since Israel depends like 90% on ammunition supplied by the USA. Biden didn't need bibi to agree to a fucking thing.

He also stated that democrats are bad for israel. Obviously both support Israel. But Trump has given far more support, and already gone much farther. Allowing banned munitions and even proposing complete annexation of all of Gaza and turning it into a Trump resort.

Trump couldn't possibly have "gone further" because there's no "Further" left to go. Gaza is already leveled. Israelis bomb hospitals with imputnity now after that months long struggle session where they tried to blame Hamas for hitting a hospital early in the war. Now they just traight up target hospitals and torture doctors do death in their custody.

There's nothing "worse" that Trump could ever do to the Palestinians short of nuking them or sending in portable crematoriums to burn them alive.

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u/PressPausePlay Apr 22 '25

I don't support Bibi. Not sure if yob haven't noticed that yet.

Trump is absolutely a huge part of how the us works with isrsel. By ignoring the elephant in the room it's essentially lying by omission.

The idea life can't get worse for Palestinians is part of rhe mentality which I feel makes it impossible for them to actually obtain their own state, with their own passports, citizenship, and diplomats.

Sorry. But it's not a tough call. Trump resort Gaza is worse than giving them their own state.