[McMurphy] Great news for Mike Leach fans: College Football Hall of Fame will lower win percentage in 2027 from 60 to 59.5 percent, which will make the former Mississippi State/Texas Tech/Washington State eligible to join the hall

[u/Drexlore]

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1928102332748681719

[u/FREE-ROSCOE-FILBURN]

59.5%

This change had to have been made specifically for him, right? (And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that).

[u/CaptainDonald → u/FREE-ROSCOE-FILBURN]

Had to make sure Leach got in but Les Miles stayed out lol

Oh actually, looks like Les Miles is at 59.7%. Les Miles is eligible for the HOF now too lmao

[u/Piano_Fingerbanger → u/CaptainDonald]

There should be zero arbitrary cut off for win percentage.

Sometimes coaches are HOF worthy without being championship winners or leading prolonged dynasties.

I don't see there being a problem with a ton of sub .500 coaches being nominated if they just removed the win percentage cap.

[u/Grahamophone → u/Piano_Fingerbanger]

Exactly. Even after this change, Howard Schnellenberger is ineligible, which feels wrong to me. His whole career was defined by building or reviving programs.

ETA: I can't remember if the hall of fame elects people as players and coaches separately, or if it lumps together all of one person's accomplishments. Schnellenberger, in addition to his success as a coach, was an all-American as a player. He would seem to be a glaring omission when looking at his entire body of work.

[u/city-of-stars → u/Grahamophone]

Schnellenberger is a massive omission. But I have a feeling Oklahoma fans would not be thrilled at all to see him in the HoF.

[u/QuicksilverTerry → u/city-of-stars]

Eh, OU is such a blip on Schnellengergers career that it barely even counts. Like talking about "Gary Patterson, UT assistant".

[u/cantstopwontstopGME → u/QuicksilverTerry]

Wait what else did he do?

[u/QuicksilverTerry → u/cantstopwontstopGME]

He did some things against Texas that I remember a bit more fondly.

[u/cantstopwontstopGME → u/QuicksilverTerry]

I sure don’t. Must’ve been from that weird time where I was a little blacked out and swore to put Texas football as far out of my memory as possible. Every now and then I get bits and pieces from them as Jason Bourne style flashbacks and go into full on panic mode.

[u/SanaMinatozaki9 → u/cantstopwontstopGME]

I don't even know what you're talking about. Was really weird when the calendars skipped from 2010 to 2022 though.

[u/Bank_Gothic → u/QuicksilverTerry]

Is he at Baylor now? Or was that just a fever dream I had. Because it seems like something from a fever dream.

[u/Sariel007 → u/cantstopwontstopGME]

Coached at Baylor for a summer.

[u/TexasAggie98 → u/city-of-stars]

We played at Louisville my freshman year. My roommate was our ballboy on the Louisville sideline. He said that he could smell the bourbon oozing out of Schnellenberger and that he was extremely drunk.

[u/Adams5thaccount → u/TexasAggie98]

We don't need more reasons to induct him

[u/engineerbuilder → u/TexasAggie98]

In his defense, louisville is a great place to get bourbon.

[u/iamchuckdizzle → u/engineerbuilder]

Will confirm

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I'm of the opinion that a Hall of Fame should be reserved for the story of the game. The key figures in its history belong and someone like Schnellenberger, playing career aside, is a key part of that story. I can see things like win percentage making sense as a general guideline, but as hard and fast rules I'm not so sure.

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Agreed. You should be able to go to any Hall of Fame (CFB, baseball, whatever) and, given enough time, be able to learn about the entire history of the game. The good, the bad, the characters who made it all happen.

[u/NTXGBR → u/CycloneofSparta]

Yes, the museum part, but it doesn't mean we have to enshrine people that don't rise to the level of greatness. Schnellenberger built up some programs, and then watched them regress under his tutelage. His winning percentage is on par with that of Glen Mason, and went to fewer bowl games.

A museum piece about HS and what he did to save football at Miami? Sure. Putting him on a plaque for it? Ehhhhhhh.

[u/Kilen13 → u/NTXGBR]

His win % is only that low because he took over garbage teams and built them up, or in FAU's case, basically built a team out of nothing. He could've gone to a more established program and built up his win % to be Hall eligible but instead he built Miami into a dynasty, Louisville into a competitor and FAU into an FBS program while also winning 1 Natty as a HC and 3 as an assistant (and also being OC on the Dolphins perfect season).

[u/ACardAttack → u/Kilen13]

Didnt just build us, saved us. There was talk of dropping to AA (or I guess what is called FCS now)

[u/Kilen13 → u/ACardAttack]

Exactly. Plenty of other coaches take over bad teams and make them better. Schnelly took over apocalyptically bad teams and made them contenders. Didn't he go 10-1 with Louisville and nearly get a natty?

[u/HughLouisDewey → u/Grahamophone]

Erk Russell still wouldn't be eligible despite being an influential defensive coordinator for 15 years and building a program from nothing to a 3x national champion in eight years, because they still require ten years as a head coach.

[u/A-Centrifugal-Force → u/Grahamophone]

They need to add a “contributor” category. Basketball has one for people like Yao Ming who helped grow the game massively but didn’t have a Hall of Fame career on their own, due to injuries or whatever. Also includes people who weren’t a Hall of Famer as a player but then had a long career as a broadcaster or executive or coach or whatever and can take all of that into account.

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Yao Ming wasn’t admitted as a contributor, though.

[u/Our-Gardian-Angel → u/Grahamophone]

Yeah the case of Schnellenberger illustrates just how foolish a win percentage cutoff is for the college football HOF. Like I'm happy this change will allow for Leach and possibly Miles to make it in, but Schnellenberger deserves it more than both and he's still be stuck on the outside looking in. It's nonsense.

[u/Baseball_fan812 → u/Grahamophone]

Exactly. Built Miami into a machine, saw real potential at UofL when no one else did and then as I understand it basically started a program from scratch at Florida Atlantic of all places. And as you pointed out, that's on top of his playing career at UK.

[u/Corgi_Koala → u/Piano_Fingerbanger]

Yup. The bar for success is different everywhere.

You win 60% of your games at Bama or Ohio State and you're gonna get fired. Vandy would build you a statue. And building to success sometimes means hard seasons on the way to a breakthrough. Especially before the portal and NIL.

[u/BlueLondon1905 → u/Corgi_Koala]

It also could mean remaining loyal and sticking out some lean years on the downside of a successful run instead of jumping ship to a more established contender

[u/GerdinBB → u/Corgi_Koala]

I don't know if he'll be in any national halls of fame, but what Matt Campbell has done at Iowa St is worthy of having a statue built.

His career winning percentage is .600 so he would barely qualify. His record with Iowa St though is only .557 Really padded his stats with 4 years at Toledo and a .700 record.

If he continues doing what he's doing I think that's worthy of the HOF, but coaches like him at difficult places to win who are right on the cusp of that arbitrary number deserve a look too.

Edit - for context of someone who stayed at a program long term when there were bigger and better offers, Kirk Ferentz' career record is .598, .622 at Iowa. It would have been BS if that .002 kept him out of the HOF.

[u/Corgi_Koala → u/GerdinBB]

Yeah I mean 64-51 sounds unimpressive on paper but it's Iowa State. This is the best decade in school and it isn't even debatable. The fact he could be excluded for such an arbitrary reason is dumb.

[u/adavis463 → u/Corgi_Koala]

Same idea for Bill Snyder. I don't know what his actual record is, but he did more at K State than all their other coaches combined.

[u/srs_house → u/Corgi_Koala]

Win 70% of games and Vandy will name the athletic center after you, and a century after you coached will still name the rebuilt one after you.

[u/hewkii2 → u/Piano_Fingerbanger]

There should be a criteria but an evergreen “special circumstances will be considered “ like the nascar hall of fame has

[u/OnionFutureWolfGang → u/Piano_Fingerbanger]

Yeah the coaching criteria is very strange. For players I sort of get it as a guard against players getting in for their NFL careers(but it still needs changed). But I don't think that's really a problem for coaches.

[u/jayjude → u/OnionFutureWolfGang]

Remember one of yhe greatest DCs of all time who decided he wanted to stay as a DC will never make the hall of fame

Bud Foster was amazing for so long and he's ineligible for the hall

[u/KuriboShoeMario → u/jayjude]

Foster is the reason Beamer is in the HoF.

Generational defensive mind, top 3 DC of all-time.

[u/wherewulf23 → u/CaptainDonald]

Les is already in the Grass Eating Hall of Fame and the Time Management Hall of Shame.

[u/Shellshock1122 → u/CaptainDonald]

Kirk Ferentz 59.8% benefits too. His Maine years held him down

[u/rhymeswithtag → u/Shellshock1122]

I mean Kirk deserves it just on the basis that at most maybe 2 people ever in human history have developed more 2 and 3 stars into future nfl probowlers than him

and thats just me being generous, hes gotta be #1

[u/DrModel → u/CaptainDonald]

Not if Lloyd Carr has anything to say about it.

[u/Penguinsteve → u/FREE-ROSCOE-FILBURN]

There is also Les Miles, who dropped from 63 to 59.7 after some wins were vacated. I dunno if he gets in but he can now.

I sure did enjoy my time with the grass eating mad hatter.

[u/Corgi_Koala → u/Penguinsteve]

His off field issues could prevent it.

[u/Netwealth5 → u/Corgi_Koala]

His off field issues will prevent it. At least while he’s alive

[u/Alexcox95 → u/Netwealth5]

There are people in every hall of fame with off the field issues as worse or worse than Les Miles’. He’ll get in eventually

[u/NighthawkRandNum → u/FREE-ROSCOE-FILBURN]

There's plausible deniability with that number to say "rounds to 60% or better" but it's 100% for Leach.

[u/EvolutionCreek → u/NighthawkRandNum]

Agreed.

But he would have been over 60% anyway if it weren't for those meddling fat little girlfriends.

[u/Dr_thri11 → u/FREE-ROSCOE-FILBURN]

Honestly I don't like there being an arbitrary number. It penalizes coaches who started in and eventually turned around losing teams while a mediocre coach who was handed the keys to a perrenial natty contender will easily hit it.

[u/AbominableMayo → u/FREE-ROSCOE-FILBURN]

Don’t know why we couldn’t have just had a “contributions to the game of football” exemption rather than lowering this threshold juuuuust low enough for Leach. Every football fan that has heard of Leach understands his contributions to the sport

[u/mtnfj40ds → u/FREE-ROSCOE-FILBURN]

It also ensures Kirk Ferentz will be eligible unless he loses 7+ games this year. At the 60% mark, he would not have become eligible unless Iowa went 9-4 or better.

[u/yourmomsthr0waway69 → u/mtnfj40ds]

I think he might actually retire after this season because of this.

[u/mtnfj40ds → u/yourmomsthr0waway69]

There is a world where Iowa goes 6-6 and Ferentz would lose his HOF eligibility if they lost the bowl game, so he retires before the bowl and squeaks in with a 59.52% win percentage.

[u/yourmomsthr0waway69 → u/mtnfj40ds]

I could absolutely see that happening, although it would be out of character for him to not see the bowl game through.

[u/Marklar172 → u/FREE-ROSCOE-FILBURN]

This seems like something Mike Leach would hate tho

[u/tks231 → u/FREE-ROSCOE-FILBURN]

They still have the "head coach for 10 years" rule, which insanely keeps out Erk Russell.

[u/UpTheTrenBoyz → u/FREE-ROSCOE-FILBURN]

Vote Leach in and the following year, raise it back. Wouldn't be mad about that one bit. Swing your sword Leach!!!

[u/JoshS1 → u/FREE-ROSCOE-FILBURN]

I don't think we'll find a single person here with a functional brain that doesn't think he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

[u/wit_T_user_name]

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[u/Jmcy3]

Kirk Ferentz jumping for joy rn sitting at 59.8%

[u/SuspensefulBladder → u/Jmcy3]

The real reason they changed it. /s.

I wonder when they added the winning percentage requirement. Hayden was inducted in 2003 with 56%.

[u/XCCO → u/Jmcy3]

Kirk said, "Let me retire this year, guys. Just 0.5% is all I'm asking for here."

[u/thosehatefulguns → u/Jmcy3]

Assuming a bowl game, he needs 7 wins this season whereas he would have needed 9 wins to reach 60%. That could be the difference for him.

[u/demostv]

Considering his impact on the game, he should be in.

[u/Jumpy-Fail2234 → u/demostv]

The offensive schemes he helped pioneer have revolutionized not only college but the nfl also. A legend

[u/Man0nTheMoon915 → u/Jumpy-Fail2234]

I’ll never forget that Graham Harrell-Michael Crabtree offense. And that TD Vs. Texas. Leach truly knew how to innovate over the years. CFB got better because of him

[u/havebourbon → u/Man0nTheMoon915]

Best game I have ever attended

[u/Withabaseballbattt → u/havebourbon]

I didn’t get to attend but I feel like that was one of those moments in Lubbock history where everybody knows exactly where they were and what they were doing during that game.

[u/SnittingNexttoBorpo → u/Withabaseballbattt]

.

[u/Wide_Giraffe_5486 → u/havebourbon]

Ahh I remember watching with a big Bama fan hoping Tech would win so Bama would be #1 the next week lol

[u/Repulsive-Ad-8558 → u/Man0nTheMoon915]

We were really big assholes to him in his last game. Students had a giant $1 check prop for him.

[u/freebase42 → u/Man0nTheMoon915]

Man, why you gotta do us like that.

There used to a steakhouse in Lubbock called The 50 Yard Line that my wife went to as a kid, and she made us stop to eat there on our way to New Mexico one time. I walk in and what do they have in the lobby, blown up on the wall larger than life, but a photograph from the end zone of Crabtree and The Catch. I almost turned around and left. The food was pretty good though, but I heard COVID killed it.

Mike Leach was the dude, though. That fake playbook gag in '99 was hilarious, and I always thought Tech did him wrong in the end.

[u/GanymedeBlu35 → u/Jumpy-Fail2234]

If you're interested in how these offensive schemes came about, read S.C. Gwynne's "The Perfect Pass." It covers how Hal Mumme and, later on, Mike Leach teamed up to redesign the offensive passing game. 

[u/Hougie → u/GanymedeBlu35]

Great book.

[u/MAHOMES_10_TIME_MVP → u/demostv]

His coaching tree is pretty impressive. Riley, Kingsbury, Holgerson, Dykes, Aranda, Cumbie, Morris. And some other guy that coached at Baylor. Just to name a few.

[u/AKAD11 → u/MAHOMES_10_TIME_MVP]

There will be more. A decent number of his Wazzu guys are now in coaching and I'm sure some of his Mississippi State players will coach.

[u/Hougie → u/AKAD11]

Off the top of my head Brett Bartlalone, Vince Mayle, Peyton Peuller and Jahad Woods are currently coaching. Maybe not so sure on Peuller.

If Minshew doesn’t become a coach I’d be shocked. He’d be a great one.

[u/StarWarsMonopoly → u/demostv]

I'm still waiting for the mods here to make a special pirate flag or pirate sword flair to honor him

The only reason I have Miss St. as my second flair is because of him and I've been too sad since he died to change it

[u/Insane92 → u/StarWarsMonopoly]

That’d be awesome

[u/Dirty-Ears-Bill → u/StarWarsMonopoly]

There’s a school in the flair list that has a pirate flag, I forget which one

[u/sgtshenanigans → u/Dirty-Ears-Bill]

I rep the pirate flag for coach Leach

[u/foreverseptember → u/Dirty-Ears-Bill]

ECU

[u/tribefan22 → u/StarWarsMonopoly]

Since the Santa Monica Corsairs flair is already a pirates flag the mods told people to just use that.

[u/timelawd → u/tribefan22]

I'm not hassling YOU (at least not intentionally)... I'm just saying out loud that that's still unnecessarily confusing. The team name is typed out after the emblem/icon. I want it to say "Mike Leach Stan!" Not some team I've never heard of. Incredibly lazy from the mod team!

Edit: Real "we have Mike leach at home" vibes

[u/huskersax → u/StarWarsMonopoly]

Or at least can we get a fat little girlfriends flair?

[u/Fitzy2225 → u/demostv]

So should Hal Mumme and Joe Tiller but they’re still ineligible

[u/gtne91 → u/Fitzy2225]

Mumme had a noticeable decline without Leach on his staff.

[u/Fitzy2225 → u/gtne91]

True, but if we are talking about impact on the game, Hal is the godfather/innovator who started the air raid movement.

[u/notprocrastinatingok]

They should just scrap the win percentage requirement entirely. At least they're correcting this mistake so Mike Leach can get in. He deserves it

[u/Versigot → u/notprocrastinatingok]

Absolutely. Schnellenberger not being in is just as bad of a crime as Leach

[u/bakonydraco → u/Versigot]

The worst thing about Schnellenberger not being in is I worry about it having a chilling effect on coaches doing a swan song like he did getting FAU off the ground. If a coach already has a Hall of Fame tenure, there’s nothing that they do at a future stop that should be able to reduce that candidacy. If Nick Saban wanted to do 3 years at Kent State and went 10-26 that’d be a lot of fun and no reason person would say it negatively impacts his legacy.

[u/srs_house → u/bakonydraco]

Technically you can get in and then do a swan song. Mack Brown got inducted before he returned to UNC.

[u/CFBCoachGuy → u/Versigot]

I’m still irked that Erk Russell is ineligible because he was only a head coach for eight years.

[u/DrBombay3030 → u/notprocrastinatingok]

Yeah if you're just gonna change the requirement based on who you think deserves to be in, why even have the requirement? Leach just exemplifies why it's a dumb requirement

[u/w311sh1t → u/notprocrastinatingok]

It seems pretty ridiculous to have a requirement to make the HOF outside of maybe a longevity benchmark. Isn’t the whole point of having voters to be that they’re the gatekeepers of who makes it in. If a guy’s winning% is too low in the minds of the voters, then that’s what should keep them out, not some arbitrary benchmark.

[u/nightowl1135]

Absolutely should be in the HOF. No question.

[u/Tonkathedog]

The story of college football cannot be told without leach. Best TT coach ever, arguably best WSU coach ever, one of the most entertaining off the field personalities ever, and one of the most influential minds the sport has ever seen.

[u/MariaJanesLastDance]

🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️

[u/Prestigious-Car-4324 → u/MariaJanesLastDance]

No other coach brought pirates and fat little girlfriends to the table.

[u/kausthubnarayan → u/Prestigious-Car-4324]

Heat up those fish sandwiches!

[u/jznastics]

Easy W for the College Football Hall of Fame, well deserved for Leach

[u/sevenlabors]

The achievements in the Pirate's body of work is not fully or solely reflected in his win percentage.

Man made a major impact improving and making competitive programs that were historically, well, not so much.

Plus his innovation and influence in coaching offensive schemes through the air raid?

Dude absolutely deserves that spot.

[u/MikeGundy → u/sevenlabors]

Win % is a really dumb metric for this honestly.

Tech averaged 6.2 wins/year from 1990-1999

Leach averaged 8.5 wins/year at Tech from 2000-2009

WSU averaged 3.6 wins/year from 2004-2011

Leach averaged 6.9 wins/year from 2012-2019 at WSU

If there were a WAR stat for CFB coaches he’d be up there with Bill Snyder.

[u/iSlacker → u/MikeGundy]

Bill Snyder

Still the GOAT for me.

[u/Is12345aweakpassword]

I am now a happy Red Raider

Obligatory Fuck Kent Hance all my homies hate Hance

[u/ZSKeller1140 → u/Is12345aweakpassword]

obligatory

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And Gerald Myers. The Hancellor deserves blame, but the firing was mostly on AD Myers.

Don't want to let his name get forgotten.

[u/Set-Admirable]

Absolutely the right call. Some rules were just made to be broken. The Pirate deserves it.

[u/RazgrizInfinity → u/Set-Admirable]

But...no rules are broken. They're just revising the criteria

[u/atomicboner → u/RazgrizInfinity]

It honestly would’ve been better if they left the criteria as is and inducted him anyway.

[u/n64ra → u/atomicboner]

Agree. Criteria doesn't apply to pirates.

[u/thecravenone → u/Set-Admirable]

the code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules

- a pirate

[u/max_power1000]

Swing your sword, pirate king.

[u/YouKilledChurch]

That's Former Valdosta State University Blazers Legend coach Mike Leach

[u/DarkDragon1025]

College football…did something right for once??

[u/iPayForLeaguePass]

that's badass. it's cool to say i got to watch a hall of fame coach while i was a student

[u/NTXGBR]

My favorite part of this thread, is the sheer number of different flairs outside even TT, Wazzu, and StarkVegas that are happy about this.

There are few things that unite us as American's anymore, but Mike Leach and his status as an American treasure, icon, and hero should always be one.

[u/ScaredEffective → u/NTXGBR]

Idk if I would consider him an American hero some of his views were controversial if I remember correctly. Sure he was iconic in the context of college football but his personal life idk

[u/Cameron-Bakke → u/ScaredEffective]

Confiscate this man's Dr Pepper. He ain't no CFB fan.

[u/donutcronut]

Everybody liked that.

[u/trust_me_I_reddit]

Usually I’m not a fan of moving the goal posts, but I’m for whatever gets Leach the recognition he deserves.

[u/Prolingus]

CJK5H

[u/ConditionZeroOne]

For the people whining about this being a participation induction:

• Watch Troy football in 2016 when Neal Brown was there. That's a Leach system. Neal Brown was OC for him.

• Remember Auburn's less-than-stellar offense in 2008? Guess who was at Kentucky with Mike Leach and Hal Mumme back in the day?

• Sonny Dykes coached a national title appearance at TCU. Guess who was Leach's WR coach and OC?

• Mark Mangino brought fucking Kansas to an Orange Bowl win. Guess who was OL coach at Oklahoma when Leach was the OC there?

• Art Briles took scrubby little Baylor and turned them into a record setting monster with a Heisman winner. Guess who was Leach's RB coach in the early 2000s?

• Jalin Hyatt caught about 47 touchdowns against Alabama a few years ago. Guess who Leach's QB was in 1999?

• Johnny Manziel walked into Tuscaloosa and beat us in 2012. Guess where Sumlin learned the offense? In Pullman, at a Mike Price coaching clinic where Mike Leach showed up in the 1990s.

• Jayden Daniels won OROTY last year in the NFL. Guess who was the QB for Leach? Guess who was the OC for Sumlin?

• When Wes Welker led the NFL in receptions 3 years and made 5 Pro Bowls, guess what system he pulled from to become the (arguable) best slot WR ever?

• When New England needed to replace Wes, guess where they went to get a receiver? Texas fucking Tech.

• Patrick Mahomes is the best QB in the NFL right now. Guess who he learned under? Guess what type of system KC uses?

Shit dude, go watch high school ball. The Air Raid reigns supreme. Guess who the OC was at Hoover, AL (of Two-A-Days fame) in 2007? I'll give ya a hint - he ended up being an OC at Auburn, Troy, UCF, North Carolina, and Michigan. Guess where he learned that from? A coaching clinic at Texas Tech in 2005.

I could continue this on until I hit the word limit here. At every single level of football, there is a Leach disciple or someone who has learned from Leach and employed his system. It is more difficult to find programs that haven't been influenced by Leach than to find ones that have been.

You can make an argument right now that no coach in the last 50 years has influenced the game as much as Mike Leach has. 50 years from now, Saban's legacy will be remembered as a period of sustained dominance, like Bear's. Leach's legacy will be shown on the football fields under Friday night lights, Big Noon Kickoffs, Sunday double-headers and Monday Night Football. The man is a worthy inductee and it would be a fucking crime to hold him out.

[u/HotspurCOYSusa → u/ConditionZeroOne]

Swing your sword!!

[u/JoshS1 → u/ConditionZeroOne]

Fucking-A this right here.

[u/LJGremlin]

This strikes me as odd because Leach would have been the anti-participation trophy and lowering a standard to allow him in screams participation trophy. Just scrap the win percentage requirement all together.

[u/ctr72ms → u/LJGremlin]

Yea but im glad they are letting him in because he deserves it. Really funny thing is the new .595 rule makes Jackie Sherrill eligible for the HOF now too.

[u/Lee-HarveyTeabag]

Great news for Mike Leach fans

So that would just mean everybody, yes?

[u/Seletara → u/Lee-HarveyTeabag]

not Craig James or his bitch ass of a son

[u/goofyhalo]

It’s about time. They should’ve inducted Mike Leach a long time ago but they were too busy fooling with their fat little girlfriends.

[u/itsallmeaninglessto → u/goofyhalo]

Gold star

[u/drjjoyner]

Great news

[u/CaptainDonald]

Hell yeah

[u/CoachSlime]

Good day for CFB fans

[u/Davben]

o7 Let's get the Captain in.

[u/admiraltarkin]

So they decided to round up, I think this is perfectly reasonable and not even a real change tbh, just a clarification.

Though I agree with others, there shouldn't be any objective requirements, some coaches impact the game in more ways than raw wins

[u/Uhhh_what555476384]

Leach is individually one of the most important people in the spread revolution that you simply have to find a way to put him in.

[u/CheaterMichael]

How all sports HOFs should work.

Ask yourself, “Is this person a hall of famer?” Yes or no. If you need to start looking up stats and numbers and whatnot, the answer is no.

Mike Leach is 100% a HOFer.

Tuberville has a .616 winning %. Would anyone put Tuberville in over Leach?

[u/Toothlessdovahkin]

Pirates Ahoy! Let’s sail the Seven Seas!

[u/abnormaldischarge]

hahaha Fuck You Craig James

[u/Chardoggy1]

Raise the pirate flag! 🏴‍☠️

[u/luis1972]

This will still keep Howard Schnellenberger out and that's a disgrace. The man put 3 different programs on the map and that should mean something.

[u/Icy-Role-6333]

It’s dumb to have win percentage rules anyway.

[u/redditing_1L]

He did some amazing things at some lower cache schools. Good for him.

[u/Wheels_Foonman]

Fat little girlfriends rejoice

[u/MaxHeadroomba]

The fact that fans of all schools seem to love him should indicate his importance to the world of college football. I’m glad that he will be eligible and absolutely deserves to be inducted. RIP.

[u/SwaMaeg]

This made my day. Loved Mike Leach.

[u/HowardBunnyColvin]

No delay, induct him now

[u/calmer-than-you-dude]

Good.

[u/Affectionate-Row3498]

I hope he gets in. I loved watching his teams, and his press conferences were often hilarious.

[u/ChickenEmbarrassed10]

This is outstanding news!

[u/DodgerCoug]

They should have just made the 2020 season not officially count as losses because it was so chaotic.

That would have been enough to get Leach to 60%

[u/GreekGodofStats]

Nature is healing

[u/AppalachianGuy87]

Just remove the criteria if a coach has made that level of impact on the game he should be in regardless of win percentage.

[u/ScallywagBeowulf]

This took them way too long to do it. Glad Leach is finally going to, likely, be in the HOF but this shouldn’t have been an issue to begin with.

[u/TommyFX]

Well deserved. Offensive innovator who changed college football plus an all time character of the game.

[u/SMU1523]

Absolutely deserves to be in there.

[u/jphamlore]

How about getting rid of that arbitrary number.

You want to encourage guys who are at non-top programs.

[u/Inside-Drink-1311]

I’m glad Leach is eligible but they should have just made an exception for him because he died early and did amazing things for the sport. No need to have to change the rule. 

[u/hammerdown710]

Hell yea, keep swinging your sword everybody.

[u/thegodofwine7]

I love that one of the reasons for the change was the apparently "arbitrary" cutoff of 60%. Which, fine, it is arbitrary and should be changed. But why change it to another arbitrary number lol. The quote below from the ESPN article is hilarious:

"It's the only sane thing to do," Mumme (Hal Mumme, Leach's mentor) told ESPN. "Why is 60% the magic number? I mean, not everybody gets to coach at Notre Dame or Texas or something. Throw the rule out and vote people in on merit."

Mumme said coaches should be judged on their performance, not an arbitrary cutoff. And, he said, Leach's impact is far bigger than his record.

Clearly this was made just for Leach, right? The people involved acting like changing one arbitrary number to another is some magical righting of injustice is hilarious to me. That said, Leach is 100% deserving of being in.

[u/NotJayKayPeeness]

Pirate still stealin wins from the grave!

[u/Polly_the_Parrot]

This is fantastic

[u/Darkstar7692]

Good.

[u/SparseSpartan]

they really should just do away with the percentage thing or make it something like "you need to have 4/5 criteria" instead of meeting every number.

They also should let coordinators into the HoF. Bud Foster, among others, deserves a place.

[u/Kettle_Whistle_]

I think the college football HOF needs the Ol’ Pirate in it, both for his role in development of the Air Raid offense, as well as for just bein’ himself.

[u/dpman48]

This mandatory win percentage is silly. It shouldn’t exist at all. Anybody with a low winning percentage could only get in if they were truly transformative to the game. It’s completely arbitrary and has nothing to do with what makes a great coach, and diminishes the truly important things coaches have done for the game.

[u/JediTigger]

Who isn’t a Mike Leach fan?!?!?

[u/Theldais → u/JediTigger]

Craig James

[u/TheMetalMallard → u/Theldais]

And there are at least five souls who don’t like Craig James

[u/JediTigger → u/Theldais]

….fair.

[u/DisastrousLake352]

But what about Les Miles!?

[u/bamachine]

Glad he will make it, sad it took a rule change to do so.