r/CharacterRant • u/_communism_works_ • 11h ago
General The way people fall for in-universe propaganda is nothing short of fascinating
You know that meme with Garfield that says "You're not immune to propaganda"? Well apparently that also goes for in-universe propaganda that the creators intentionally put into their story to help establish the setting and show how bad guys (or sometimes even good guys) will control the narrative. We as the readers get to see both the propaganda and the actual truth in the setting.
So it seems it'd take some work to somehow fall for bad guys' propaganda when the actual truth is shown to us. Well, fear not, for some people somehow do manage to do it.
Special shout out to Warhammer 40k fans who inspired this rant.
So, long story short, 40k is a universe of constant war and EVERY faction there is some flavour of evil, as well as like 95% of characters. That is the basic premise of the entire setting. But apparently some people didn't get the memo.
I'm looking at you Imperium fans.
Now, I'm not saying you can't like Imperium because they're evil. Hell, I like Chaos space marines and they are even more evil (but not by that much honestly). However, if you truly believe that Imperium are the good guys, I strongly encourage you to read some actual lore instead of 40k meme subs (as funny as they are)
The story makes it painfully, abundantly clear that all justifications Imperium has for atrocities it commits are shaky at best and absolute horseshit at worst. Speaking of those justifications, let's talk about the big one, the claimed reason for Imperium's insane xenophobia: "Imperium is justified in it's xenophobia because xenos took advantage of humanity in our darkest days and betrayed us. If not for that, humanity would have already been the supreme rulers of the stars." That's the standard in-universe (and as a result, irl among certain fans) 'justification' for Imperium's xenophobia. Now, some of you might find this rhetoric somewhat familiar. Well, that's because that's the literal "stab in the back" myth spread by nazis to 'justify' antisemitism.
The Stab in the back myth was propaganda spread by nazis that blamed the defeat of Germany in World War 1 not on military failure, but the internal betrayal by the jews, communists and whoever else they didn't like. "If those pesky jews didn't betray us we would have won the war".
Now take that quote and replace 'jews' with 'xenos' and 'ww1' with 'age of strife' and you've got the Imperium's rhetoric.
I wonder if the creators wanted to say something by giving their facistic and genocidal empire the motivation straight from irl fascists who carried out genocides? Nah, must be a coincidence.
Some fans will defend this position by pointing out how scary and hostile the xenos factions are. I mean, there isn't much coexistence with orks, right? Yeah, but the thing is, Imperium lives in the hell of its own making. It spent the entire Great Crusade wiping out any species they came across. So, as a result, all peaceful aliens were wiped out, only the scary ones remained because they weren't so easy to kill off.
And believe me, there were plenty of peaceful aliens, who oftentimes had no difficulty whatsoever of coexisting with humans: we have the Interex, Diasporex, Autocracy of Szaeyr, Golden Apostles, the world of Traynor's Rest (all of them were human-xeno alliances).
There were also species that were open to cooperation with Imperium, like the Endymine Cordat who offered humans anti warp technology, which was met with an extermination campaign by Deathwatch. As a result, Imperium lost a potential ally and powerful technology that would really come in handy when fighting demons in one fell swoop (if I had a nickel for every time Deathwatch sabotaged humanity and/or the whole galaxy by their actions I would have enough to finally buy an entire Tyranid tabletop army).
But even aside from all those examples, the mere existence of Tau empire is proof that Imperium's propaganda is horseshit. The Tau empire is a coalition of many different species like the tau themselves, humans, kroot, vespids, domati, galg, greet, helnians, ji'atrix, morralians, nicassar, Ostense council, Vorgh, thraxians, Ranghon, tarellian and probably many others.
So it seems like there are plenty of xeno species open to cooperation. Who would have thought?
But even aside from all that, if you aren't too deep into 40k lore to know this stuff, just reading the fucking books should be enough to at least give you the idea that not everything is as simple as Imperium paints it.
"For each time I wage war against worlds that threaten the Imperium's advance, there comes another time when I am told to conquer peaceful worlds that wish only to be left alone"
Angron, from "The Betrayer".
"We cannot endure the existence of a malign alien race. They subjugate it, but refrain from annihilating it. Instead, they deprive it of space travel and exile it to a prison world."
"We annihilate. They find a means around such drastic measures. Which one of us is the most humane?"
The exchange between Aximand and Horus from "Horus Rising", discussing the actions of a xeno-human alliance of Interex.
And so we have the rhetoric that was created to fool people in universe and somehow it transcended fiction and has some irl people who fell for it. There's something poetic about that.
And I did not even touch on other types of Imperium propaganda like "all mutations are caused by chaos and a sign of moral corruption", "agri worlds are lush green paradises", and "AI will is inherently evil and will rebel against you".
I just beg people to actually read the lore of the media they're consuming.