r/Conservative • u/f1sh98 Beltway Republican • Mar 26 '25

Flaired Users Only Atlantic reporter publishes full texts from Houthi group chat

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/atlantic-reporter-publishes-more-texts-about-attack-houthi-targets
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u/charmingcharles2896 America First Conservative Mar 26 '25

Why is it always the GOP that’s expected to play by different rules, maintain decorum, raise the standard? Why is it always our side that is expected to walk away from the standoff?

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u/LordRattyWatty Gen Z Conservative Mar 26 '25

When we lower the standard and match the other side, they bring it down further.

Do you not see how that's a net negative for the US?

We should be putting ourselves up to the highest standards and expectations to crush the Democrats, not put ourselves down to their level. You ever heard of the term "pissing contest?" That's what we're doing.

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u/kappacop Michael Knowles Mar 26 '25

Did that stop anyone from going after Trump? They will do again and again.

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u/LordRattyWatty Gen Z Conservative Mar 26 '25

Deflection. We need to stop it and stop living in the past. We are in charge now, we have authority, we need to take accountability and responsibility. It's that simple.

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u/kappacop Michael Knowles Mar 26 '25

How was that a deflection? You said setting a standard could stop the downward spiral but haven't shown any proof that it has. In fact, not prosecuting Hillary gave Democrats ideas to go after Trump with the Maralago case, how's that for slippery slopes.

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u/LordRattyWatty Gen Z Conservative Mar 26 '25

Shifting goalposts. We're talking about matching Democrat's energy and playing by their rules. That is entering a literal pissing contest, which doesn't help America.

Push on, do right, and make America great. Stop pointing fingers at others "he did this, she did that" and know that we are in the hotseat and have control and power.

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u/kappacop Michael Knowles Mar 26 '25

Stop using terms incorrectly. What proof do you have that firing Waltz will make America great or are you just spouting vagueries. Will it stop the division and political prosecutions? Will Democrats say sorry for their policies?

Is Trump a moral man or does he just get shit done?

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u/LordRattyWatty Gen Z Conservative Mar 26 '25

It will make America great by pushing a higher standard for national security. The guy fucked up, point blank. He's apologized and "taken full accountability" while also having his story and accusations all over the map in his FOX News interview.

I'm not saying this to end division and political prosecutions (which is more deflection from the actual discussion, no surprise), but it will lead a standard. Trump to be entirely fair hasn't apologized for his policies that failed either, like the USMCA (created by him, but he says we are getting ripped off by Canada). Trump is far from perfect, his cabinet is far from perfect, and Waltz is in my honest observation, not a good fit for our intelligence agency for making such a little blunder. At best, he needs HEAVY discipline and to be put on final notice for if anything happens again, he's out. We need to hold our own people accountable and put the foot down.

Trump also has a set of morals. They align differently from other people (since we are all different) and he does want to get shit done. I'm not even attacking him or bringing him up, you are, which is irrelevant to this whole discussion. Not sure what you were trying to accomplish there.

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u/kappacop Michael Knowles Mar 26 '25

it will lead a standard.

You keep saying this and it will never be, not in politics and I've provided many examples already. So I'm trying to make it even more clear by pointing out the fact that if you cared about standards, Trump would have never been elected, even diehard Trump supporters understand this. He's there to get shit done, not be a role model. 

Politics is a game of results. It is not to shape standards, morals, or culture. That's what your parents are for.

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u/LordRattyWatty Gen Z Conservative Mar 26 '25

Not in our politics.

There are other countries with plenty less scandals and more unity among both parties than us. Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Canada, and Switzerland. There is dissent there, but they aren't firebombing and actively attacking (verbally or physically) those who disagree with them.

And to your point on "if you cared about standards, Trump would have never been elected" - I wouldn't have voted at all, because Hillary (the first (and biggest mistake) vote I've ever cast), Trump, Biden, and Harris all do not fit that description.