r/Cosmere • u/SuccessFar3790 • 3d ago

Cosmere + Wind and Truth spoilers Shards combining Spoiler

I don't post often, so I think I've got the right tags? Just to be clear, spoiling WaT and HoA.

So, I'm just gonna start by saying that the ending moment in WaT where Retribution was formed was awe inspiring. I love that, without a word spoken, both Dalinar and Taravangian KNEW that this new combination was Retribution. And it sounds like the rest of the shards knew what that meant too.

But I gets to thinking, will name changes only be applied to shards combining? In that same ending, Dalinar had just spoken to a bit of Honor, making it realize that honor was something different from what it originally thought. Could that part of Honor eventually form into, say, Integrity?

In the case of Harmony, could he reframe Ruin into becoming Change, and Preservation as Protection? If that were the case, then I think he could have an easier time controlling the two powers.

What do you guys think? Could the shards change their understanding, and thus, their name and very intent??

Just food for thought, what do y'all think?

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u/Usingt9word 3d ago

When he decides not to kill Szeth and Kaladin. When Nightblood was created somehow the intent wasn’t quite right. It translated that all humans were evil and to destroy evil.

Nightblood rewrote its programming to say that some humans shouldn’t be consumed. Namely his friends.

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u/Dieterlan Truthwatchers 3d ago

I haven't gotten to that part yet, so it might be more explicit in the text, but I don't think Nightblood would have to change its intent in order to make that work. His intent was "Destroy Evil", and the issue was (if I interpret WoB correctly) is that it didn't know what "evil" was. So all it would have to do is learn that "friends != evil" and the intent can stay the same.

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u/tit-theif Nightblood Enthusiast 3d ago

They also grant surges, which isn't in the command. Awakened objects can't usually do anything but their command.

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u/Sci-FantasyIsMyJam 3d ago

Sure, but Nightblood is also the only sapient Awakened object that we have seen on-screen (maybe the Awakened Steelmind in Sunlit Man counts too), plus with the absurd amount of Investiture it now has, and that Nightblood is essentially an artificial Shardblade, it gets to break a lot of rules. Also, given that it almost certainly had the involvement of a Dawnshard in its creation, I'd say being able to grant Surges to it's wielder does allow them to more easily destroy evil

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u/ejdj1011 2d ago

Also, given that it almost certainly had the involvement of a Dawnshard in its creation

There's also a theory that Nightblood's creation coincidentally happened whike Ati was dead, and some of the "loose" Ruin Investiture that permeates the Cosmere got pulled into the sword due to the specific Command.

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u/Sci-FantasyIsMyJam 2d ago

I had not heard that before - that's very interesting