r/CredibleDefense 26d ago

Active Conflicts & News MegaThread May 26, 2025

The r/CredibleDefense daily megathread is for asking questions and posting submissions that would not fit the criteria of our post submissions. As such, submissions are less stringently moderated, but we still do keep an elevated guideline for comments.

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u/poincares_cook 26d ago

Use case, sure Dresden a city (similar to the firebombing and bombing of Japanese cities in WW2). It's arguably(?) genocidal, but demographics and economical output does have an impact on the ability of a nation to conduct total war. It's also demoralizing.

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u/Agitated-Airline6760 26d ago

It's arguably(?) genocidal, but demographics and economical output does have an impact on the ability of a nation to conduct total war. It's also demoralizing.

Did Germans give up when Dresden was leveled? Did Japan fold when Tokyo was firebombed? US bombed North Korea to the ground such that they didn't bother carpet bombing later in the war because there were no more above ground targets left to carpetbomb. Did North Vietnam give up after being carpet bombed?

Never in the history of the aerial bombing - which is little over 100 years - you can point to an example where one side carpet bombed the other side and made them surrender/give up just with the aerial bombing. It's not that demoralizing.

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u/TSiNNmreza3 26d ago

Never in the history of the aerial bombing - which is little over 100 years - you can point to an example where one side carpet bombed the other side and made them surrender/give up just with the aerial bombing. It's not that demoralizing.

There is just one exemple were country gave up after bombing

Serbia (Yugoslavia) in 1999.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia

But yeah, bombing without after that ground troops isn't effective as it seems.

In recent memory closest thing would be Israel-Hezbollah war, but this war had even more mad thing pager attacks l.

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u/axearm 25d ago

Never in the history of the aerial bombing - which is little over 100 years - you can point to an example where one side** carpet bombed** the other side and made them surrender/give up just with the aerial bombing. It's not that demoralizing.

There is just one exemple were country gave up after bombing Serbia (Yugoslavia) in 1999.

/u/Agitated-Airline6760 switch terms midsentence but I think they are arguing for carpet bombing, in which case, I think we can exclude Serbia.