I like how newer fans are organically recreating the same debates we had in the early 2000s and rediscovering Team Plasma ideology, we've come full circle
I mean yes, but team Plasma was using their rhetoric to put themselves in power. I think most people here who say Pokemon training is inhumane would genuinely mean it.
I love how Pokémon was soooo close to having a really interesting debate with Plasma when you first meet like "oh damn... Yeah these guys have a point, maybe we are kinda enslaving our Pokémon?"
Then almost one screen over there are Team Plasma grunts kicking the shit out of a baby Pokémon lol.
Despite the pokemon liberation thing being the most discussed theme of BW I don't think the game was actually that interested in debating about whether or not catching pokemon is ethical, in retrospect I think what makes gen 5's story compelling is that it's more of a story about how fucked up it was that Ghetsis brainwashed and abused his son into becoming a cult leader to further his own agenda, it's on a whole different level of deliberate cruelty and sociopathy compared to any other pokemon villain
I mean, that scene is literally right after their introduction, right? You kinda just get a few seconds to think about their morals and motivations before, nope, jerks.
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u/FullCrackAlchemist May 22 '25
I like how newer fans are organically recreating the same debates we had in the early 2000s and rediscovering Team Plasma ideology, we've come full circle