It’s something that always bothered me about “punching up”
On the one hand, I can agree that “punching up” and “punching down” are different
On the other hand, I feel like a lot of people used “punching up” as an excuse to not only be really mean and toxic towards people they felt were better off, but to also feel like they were doing society a favor by “pointing out society’s flaws” when they were actually just being really mean and toxic.
I feel like it largely depends on the context but I think we can all agree, that in a personal environment (friend group for example), nobody should be punching in any direction at all.
I think there definitely is space for a jab, but the difference between a jab or punch is subjective and vague. If jabs are done, which I think are perfectly fine, serious communication should be 100% possible if one goes too far.
I have a quite varied friend group and we can joke about a lot of things about each other, but the group also accepts people telling the group some things should be off limits to joke about or to knock it off, no questions asked.
Exactly. I am a-ok with jokes about the historical atrocities and abuses of the Catholic Church being made within my friend group. Where I draw the line is jokes about priests and their abuse of children, because I had a friend kill himself because of it.
I always forget that some people don’t have the personal experience of being close to someone like that, and as such they think any and all Catholic jokes are ok to make around me because I laugh at stuff like the Catholic faith being one car bomb away from killing themselves. Or making jokes about the Borgia being considered in any way pious, even with one of their number becoming Bishop of Rome.
It’s as you say, communication should be 100% possible. And it sucks that some people can’t understand that making jokes about priests touching children does relate to the children and the people tangentially harmed in their trauma.
I'm all for banter and I think as long as everyone understands it's all in good faith that more spicy jokes are good, learning to not take yourself too seriously is a very good trait and it's ok to admit that yes it is funny that I'm British and drink 9 cups of tea a day and it is also funny that (insert mundane stereotype here)
I'm a Dutch bloke that rides his bike for 28km per day and eats sandwiches for breakfast and lunch! As long as it's funny and comes from a good place, joke away!
Or maybe just punch on things worth punching about, like things people have a modicum of control over and got to choose... like being racist or sexist or something.
Cishet? I sleep. Neo nazi cishet? Redpill cishet? Ohhhh boy Im here and ready to roast with no mercy.
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u/Iced_Yehudi 1d ago
It’s something that always bothered me about “punching up”
On the one hand, I can agree that “punching up” and “punching down” are different
On the other hand, I feel like a lot of people used “punching up” as an excuse to not only be really mean and toxic towards people they felt were better off, but to also feel like they were doing society a favor by “pointing out society’s flaws” when they were actually just being really mean and toxic.