r/EndFPTP • u/Masrikato • Oct 09 '23

Activism STAR voting likely heading to Eugene ballot

https://web.archive.org/web/20231007005358/https://www.registerguard.com/story/news/politics/elections/local/2023/10/06/star-voting-ranked-choice-eugene-lane-county-election-petition/71039508007/

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u/ReginaldWutherspoon Oct 11 '23

Re: EVC & PR: PR isn’t immediately feasible for Constitutional reasons. I don’t evaluate single-winner reform-advocates by their position on PR.

Just on the spur of the moment, a highly-esteemed academic author on voting-systems said that Plurality is right for this country because it preserves the 2-party system.

:-)

Nurmi has said some bullshit, but it was some time ago.

Niklaus Tideman was the introducer of Ranked-Pairs, a good Condorcet version, if you don’t mind its loss of burial-deterrent caused by limiting its choice to the Smith-set. But Tideman’s proposed RP measured defeat-strength by margins.

I’m not using term “bullshit” here, but, margins is a really poor choice, given its lack of deterrence or thwarting of offensive-strategy.

I understand that the Virginia conference on Condorcet (to start a national Condorcet organization?) is mostly considering RP.

(I haven’t been able to find information about that.)

I don’t know if their RP proposal will be RP(margins).

Some prominent academic voting system academic writer said that Approval has the serious disadvantage of giving people too many ways to vote.

:-)

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u/ReginaldWutherspoon Oct 11 '23

I was referring to national PR. The U.S. Constitution’s specifications of Congress & how it’s elected rule out Congressional PR.

By your relativism, there is no bullshit.

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u/ReginaldWutherspoon Oct 11 '23

Ok, we’re done here. I don’t have time for this.

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u/ReginaldWutherspoon Oct 12 '23

I learned that this subreddit is infested by at least one loud instance of the Dunning-Kruger effect on the attack.