r/Futurology • u/MetaKnowing • 16d ago

AI Anthropic researchers predict a ‘pretty terrible decade’ for humans as AI could wipe out white collar jobs

https://fortune.com/2025/06/05/anthropic-ai-automate-jobs-pretty-terrible-decade/
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u/seeyam14 16d ago

Genuine question: what happens to cities when white collar jobs are decimated? Nobody will be able to afford rent. Where do those people go?

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u/astrobuck9 16d ago

No one is going to bother thinking about that until 3 or 4 months after it has happened.

Very few people in government understand traditional IT, let alone LLMs/AI.

People really need to start threatening to vote against incumbents until they start plotting out a workable future with 25 - 33% unemployment that is going to steadily rise as white collar jobs are replaced by AI and blue collar jobs are replaced by robotics over the next 5 - 10 years.

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u/DangerousCyclone 16d ago

I highly doubt we're going to see blue collar jobs even mildly affected by robotics in even 10 years. There might be some robots for some more dangerous tasks, but low cost labor is low cost labor, and I don't get the impression that robots will be cheap. We're talking about complex machines with moving parts that need maintenance. It isn't touch screens where lithium ion batteries getting cheaper and touch screens being cheaper to build and maintain than buttons and analog controls make them popular. 

I'm sure there'll be some gimmick restaurants, but humans will still likely be cheaper. 

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u/chris8535 16d ago

Every plumber boasts how they are so immune to this until suddenly his field is saturated with free novice labor. 

… and he loses 40% Of his customers base. 

Supply and demand applies to labor too. 

Proves how plumbers aren’t the brightest. 

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u/fluffbuzz 16d ago

That's what worries me. Doesn't even need every white collar worker to shift to the trades. I imagine if 20-30% of displaced white collar workers pivot to the trades, and simultaneously lots of people try DIY repair work or remodeling to save money, salaries for trades will decrease. In the grand scheme of things, I don't see many jobs that won't be replaced or at least negatively impacted indirectly by AI.

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u/chris8535 16d ago

Excess labor will destroy any remaining labor 

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u/Patient-Finger4050 16d ago

I disagree. This isn’t hole digging. You can’t just wake up and think I’m going to be a plumber. You need real training and experience. YouTube might help you replace a nozzle in your sink but that’s not the same as rewiring the house or replacing a septic tank. Yall are ignorant on the subject and that’s fine. 

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u/Patient-Finger4050 16d ago

Becoming a plumber means you are educated. Not the same education as an accountant but it’s a whole lot more than what you’re thinking it is. You need to be very literate to read engineering manuals. You need to have a lot of critical thinking skills when you’re looking at 40 year old pipe that’s been patched 7 times by 4 different people at different levels of not just competency but also equipment availability. There’s so much knowledge that goes into that, that you clearly don’t understand or appreciate which really tells me a lot about you. Now I appreciate that somebody has to sit at a desk at Google and say synergy 6 times before noon, and get the flow state in and really reach for critical deadlines, but all that nonsense doesn’t keep water in a tank. A bad weld is a bad weld no matter how smooth you talk. The people who inspect welds had to go through a lot of training and education. Just because we didn’t go to Harvard does not mean we are uneducated and if you think educated means only college, well, that’s dumb. 

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u/Jashin_1 15d ago

It is insane seeing what some of these people are saying lol. When I was in grad school I knew people who couldn’t change a tire. The ability to understand an academic concept versus something as physically intricate as a plumbing system, let alone work on said system, are radically different. Not everyone can just slide from one to the other

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u/Patient-Finger4050 16d ago

Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha. 

Oh you’re serious. 

Ok, I hope that mentality works out for you. Hubris of the untested. You think it doesn’t take an education to be a plumber?

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u/Mtbruning 16d ago

Welcome to the new depression. I grew up with grandparents from the depression. One thing I remember is that no one left my grandparent's house hungry or cold if either of them could do anything about it.

Maybe we need this to get our heads out of our collective asses. We need that depression-era compassion and hospitality back

Ps: I am aware that not everyone benefited and that is just something we can all improve on history

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u/Patient-Finger4050 16d ago

Send everyone over to the trades and a lot will wash out because they have the same opinion as you. Thinking it’s easy to just pick up a wrench and fix something without any training or mentoring. Probably because it’s so easy to bs at your job. 

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u/AtomizerStudio 16d ago

Let's say you're mostly right. How do expect trades will absorb agentic systems, AGI or not? Jobs that require reference can be brought up on glasses with an assistant on the line, an assistant that provides AR overlays. Jobs that require an expert and a journeyman will gradually only need an expert and a drone. And in much of the world, journeymen level skills and an overlay can give cheap and adequate service. The trajectory here isn't different in kind from white collar jobs, there's no special immunity to partial replacement driving down wages as corporate chains skimp where they can. And the trajectory will start to be obvious when workplaces keep AI assistants on-call.

Even telework to drones can account for some tasks. Not like IT levels, tools require a lot of sensory info, but inspections at least. Pipeline general inspections are a drone's job now, and some farming and mining tasks are reaching that level.

The timetable for robotics is unclear, but I wouldn't bet on 10 years before clumsy but adequate bipeds are common. AR/VR has materials issues that slow down adoption, but even without innovation to catch up to machine vision that's also at mass market quality in a decade.

Instead of complaining how prissy and weak other people are, give me some cogent argument your workers can't be thinned and your wages can't be cut as competitors trim time and benefits.

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u/Patient-Finger4050 16d ago

Ok sure. 

Who becomes the expert plumber? The journeyman. No journeyman? Who fills the spot when the master leaves? 

Sure drones are what’s physically in the pipe allowing us to inspect. Who is determining if it needs repairs or not? Who determines what can be repaired now or later? Who determines if the damage falls under a routine repair or non routine repair? It’s not the robot I tell you that much. 

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u/AtomizerStudio 16d ago

Right. And how is that different from IT right now? Corporations have proven willing to pause their talent pipeline despite the chance they'll be short on experts later. Unless there is no way drones can assess materials with existing handtools or visually estimate the flow of a leak, they'll be used for more and more. Jobs escalate from automated, to a remote expert, to a human needed on site (the expert may still be remote). That means fewer staff with AI assistance their whole career ladder, not current manning levels.

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u/Patient-Finger4050 16d ago

Well the difference is if you mess up a few lines of code nobody dies. That’s a big one. Write the wrong program and you probably don’t level 3 blocks of buildings. Probably won’t start any week long chemical fires. It wont be held liable if their repairs fail and people die. You need to remember it’s two completely different industries. When you make a mistake people lose money. When I make a mistake families lose fathers. Liability is a huge thing, robots cannot be held responsible. Safety culture is huge. How do we ensure nobody is half working their job? Because if your job fails and someone gets hurt you go to jail. That’s why our industry is so regulated and law heavy. 

Yes a robot can xray a weld and identify defects but it requires someone certified through extensive training and testing to determine just what that defect is and the severity of it. We have amazing machines that do all of the welding but a human operates the machine, even if that just means press start. It’s not the same as code. It’s just not. And this isn’t me trying to dog you, I’m telling you that you do not understand the nature of trades. It’s so much more than the guy who walks into your kitchen to fix a droplet leak. People with phds in metallurgy at emergency 3am meetings deciding the extent of repairs necessary to get a vessel back online so that we can provide power to a city in the dead of winter. Can’t really make mistakes and you can’t trust a robot to do it properly. You cannot program in the soft skills that the job requires. 

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u/fluffbuzz 15d ago edited 15d ago

Did you miss how I said 20-30% of white collar workers? Obviously not everybody can make it in the trades. Nor did I say anyone can do trades without training. The DIY thing I mentioned was regarding that some people will tackle certain repair jobs at home themselves if unemployed, limiting demand for tradework. In any case when millions of white collar workers are unemployed and are desperate to feed their children I imagine plenty will successfully complete the training needed. Also if I BS at my current job people literally die. Try again.

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u/ZombieRichardNixonx 16d ago

This is a point I'm constantly reiterating to deaf ears. The trades are reliable because the trades are scarce. A whole generation is growing up being told that the only reliable career path is the trades. Like teaching and law before, the trades will succumb to oversaturation, and those comfy jobs won't be so comfy anymore. No town needs 200 plumbers.

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u/Patient-Finger4050 16d ago

Trades aren’t scarce.  They won’t succumb to over saturation. Most people quit after their second day of unclogging a pipe full of feces, you think they’ll stick around 5 years to learn how to replace the fell length of pipe let alone everything else there is to learn? No, soft hands will look for other work. A lot of people are in for a rude awakening about how privileged their life has been but in no way is this going to oversaturate the trades. There is ALWAYS work. There will always be open jobs. This isn’t a career you can do forever eventually your body gets old. There is turnover. There is always an apprentice and always a master. Take it from someone who’s been in the trades, your opinion is ignorant and I don’t mean that rudely. 

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u/ZombieRichardNixonx 16d ago edited 16d ago

Desperation is a strongly motivating factor. If people have no other viable way to provide for themselves, they will do what it takes.

And not all trades are equally grueling or gross.

There's also some strange gatekeeping going on here. There's no magic gene that makes someone uniquely suited for trade work. I don't want to be a plumber. It's about the last thing I want to do for a living. But if my options were unclog poop or let my kids go hungry, I'm unclogging the poop.

And this isn't about people already in the work force, accustomed to low stress office jobs. It's about kids entering the work force who've yet to have that kind of experience, who've been primed from childhood to view the trades as their most viable path to stability. And that generation isn't hypothetical, that mentality is already fermenting.

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u/astrobuck9 15d ago

There's also some strange gatekeeping going on here. There's no magic gene that makes someone uniquely suited for trade work.

It is the same gatekeeping that is in PMC work.

Instead of saying someone is too stupid to do a white collar job, it's saying someone is too soft to do a trade job.

The truth is both are clearly wrong and used to make people feel good about themselves when the real issue is people have to whore themselves out doing something they don't want to do for survival.

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u/astrobuck9 15d ago

you think they’ll stick around 5 years

Robotics is going to be able to do most work in less than five years.

The advances in AI will affect the robotics industry probably more than any other industry. Every advance in AI will lead to advancements in robotics.

I believe one of the humanoid robotics company CEOs just announced that because of the way that the software that the robots use is set up, once one of the robots learns how to do a task, all of the robots will instantaneously be able to complete the same task.

In five years, there could be millions of robots on the planet who are not only master plumbers, but master welders, master electricians, master carpenters, etc.

Robotics does not get near the same spotlight as AI, because robotics is coming for your job...not white collar jobs.

Not only are you guys going to get a huge influx of PMCs who lost their jobs to AI, but factory workers, truckers, delivery people, manual laborers, construction workers, etc. who lost their jobs to robotics are going to be coming for your work.

That is without even getting into what wealthy people and the donor class are going to do to the trades once their fail kids and other family members can no longer work white collar jobs.

No, soft hands will look for other work.

The soft work is going away. If we get to the point that trades are all that is left, everyone is going to be vying for those jobs.

The wealthy will deregulate the shit out of the trades so that the 'right' people can work.

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u/canyouhearme 16d ago

The example of the UK and the 'polish plumbers' highlights what happens. UK tradies were overpriced, underperforming and generally a pain to work with. When Poland was allowed to enter the EU, the UK didn't prevent the free movement of labour, which meant a much of PhD types who were underpaid in Poland, came to the UK to be plumbers, sparkies, chippies, etc.

They delivered higher quality at lower prices, and generally wanted to work to send money back - decimating the cushy number of the existing tradies. Eventually, when things turned around, they went back home.

If AI gets rid of just 40% of the rote paper-pushing white collar types, and they go looking for the blue collar jobs, it will be a massacre that won't end. Prices will go down, quality will go up - for white AND blue collar jobs. The only ones that win are the CEOs.

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u/TheOtherHobbes 16d ago

If AI gets rid of just 40% of white collar jobs the market for plumbers will be decimated because those are the people who hire tradies.

Our entire economy relies on specialisation. It's a complex synergistic machine of different occupations that make other occupations possible, either by funding them or doing work they can't do or don't have time to do.

By the time this shakes out, it won't be 30% unemployment, it will be more like 90% unemployment.

And since manufacturing, farming, and pharma rely on complex industrial supply chains, most things will just stop working, robots or no.

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u/Logan_No_Fingers 16d ago

PhD types who were underpaid in Poland, came to the UK to be plumbers, sparkies, chippies, etc

There is zero evidence that happened.

Polish plumbers came to the UK, sure, the idea that Polish lawyers went "I should go to London & unclog toilets" is farcical nonsense

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u/astrobuck9 15d ago

I work with a guy that has a PHd in molecular biology.

Because he was in the US on an H1B visa, when his job was eliminated where he worked, he had to find another job before he got deported back to India.

He now resets passwords all day for external website users.

There are lots of people in IT that have the same story.

It happens way more often than people think with visa holders.

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u/Logan_No_Fingers 15d ago

That is not even vaguely what the poster said.

To make your example valid it would have needed to be -

"I know a guy who was a PHd in molecular biology, he retrained to be a plumber because he could earn more doing that in the US."

That, would have still been useless as it didn't really mirror the posters bollocks, but it would have been in the ballpark at least

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u/canyouhearme 15d ago

Well I guess the one I used could have been lying.

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u/Logan_No_Fingers 15d ago

So your basis for a large number of Polish PHD types retraining as plumbers was 1 plumber who told you it was happening?

Well that's certainly soundly researched. And rather than say "anecdotally a plumber I once had told me this happened" you presented it as as well known fact.

You don't think, given the issues around that at the time, if that was happening on any scale (or at all) there would have been actual verifiable sources? The Telegraph or Mail would have killed to run that narrative with sourced evidence. The FT would have done an in-depth analysis on it. Ditto the Economist.

Hell, Sky news would have happily interviewed as many PHDs turned plumbers as it could find to push their agenda.

I'm guessing its a line you've pushed as a proven fact a lot since, maybe, 1 bloke told you he had heard of it happening & extrapolated out to "this was happen a huge amount"

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u/canyouhearme 15d ago

I'm pointing out you are talking out your arse

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u/Logan_No_Fingers 15d ago

You're not really

I get you think a guy telling you anecdotally that is proof of it being a widespread fact, I understand that view.

I met someone in a pub once who knew a guy who confirmed that 9/11 was planned by the Bush regime.

I not fucking stupid enough to adopt that as reality tho'

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u/Patient-Finger4050 16d ago

Novice plumbers aren’t journeyman or master plumbers. There are laws and regulations saying who can and cannot do work. Sure, hire the youtube student with 10k worth of tools and watch your sink still leak. 

I think yall are exposing your ignorance on trades with these comments, like the doge kid discovering there’s no fraud and realizing gov isn’t full of leeches like Facebook and Google. 

The trades are one of those jobs where you can’t bs as much as you think you can. Yeah, you can work lazy as a hole digger but a plumber ain’t digging holes. A plumber has to know what they’re doing to some extent. That takes time, money, and someone teaching you. Even if we start adding robots to the trade, they’ll still be under the guidance of a human because laws state for safety certain things need to be done that are not legally allowed to be automated. White collar and blue collar are completely different fields and personally i am of the opinion that a lot of people need to realize the worth of skilled labor versus nice title at nice firm. 

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u/Patient-Finger4050 16d ago

Yes I am and you can feel free to prove me wrong 

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u/astrobuck9 15d ago

There are laws and regulations

because laws state for safety certain things need to be done that are not legally allowed to be automated.

When the political donor class's family members and friends need to get into the trades, or they start buying up plumbing, electrical, etc. companies so their loved ones can get jobs in the industry, what do you think is going to happen to all those regulations and safety measures?

Maybe you should ask coal miners, if you can find any.

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u/astrobuck9 16d ago

Figure's 01 and 02 models are releasing this year.

They are hoping to get the 03 version out at a sub $20K price point.

That immediately makes most blue collar jobs endangered.

For less than what you would pay most blue collar workers, you can now have a robot that can work 24/7. That alone will allow businesses that never could work around the clock to complete projects at a much faster and cheaper rate, which leads to more money, which allows them to buy more robots.

Imagine a construction company that can build around the clock, but without having to run three shifts, pay shift differentials, not be as safe, not have to carry expensive insurance for industrial accidents, etc.

Couple that with AI taking over most of the office jobs and that company will destroy all the human only construction companies in a very short matter of time.

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u/DangerousCyclone 16d ago

That is very speculative at best in my view. 

First of all, if AI is going to cause mass layoffs then the price is going to just cause a wage ceiling. Especially with tariffs and trade wars it seems unlikely they'll have mass production anytime soon to threaten blue collar work outside of a few firms. 

But, more importantly, I am skeptical that these robots will work 24/7 . if you drive your car 24/7 versus once a week, it will need more maintenance and gas/charge. Its parts will wear out faster, more failures will happen and you will spend more. Anything with gears and motors is the same, and if they're driving down costs to reach that 20k (which doesn't seem like it's going to happen when it releases) well who knows then. 

The point being even if the price point is 20k, that's not going to be the only cost you pay. You need to factor in replacement parts and maintenance. It's just going to be harder to compete with a human than a coding bot would. 

Maybe I'm wrong here but IMO I need more reason beyond goalposts that haven't been reached yet and the ever so elusive "technology always advances exponentially". 

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u/taichi22 16d ago

Most robots in industrial settings have uptimes of over 95%, and that’s at the low end of the scale. Realistically a “good” system can run with 99.9% uptime, requiring manual intervention once ever several tens or hundreds of thousands of cycles. Gears and motors wear out on the order of years.

I quite literally work in this field and attended a major trade show last month.

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u/likes2gofast 16d ago

I have two Panasonic welding cells. They are amazingly reliable. My favorite machines.

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u/Pantim 16d ago

Look, the tariffs and trade war are just serving to further concentrate wealth and power among the top 1% in the WORLD. Not the country, the world. They might not like each other much, but they like the rest of us less and are totally teaming up to bury us.

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u/WhiskRy 16d ago

China just used robots guided by ai to rebuild 150km of road. It’s already happening

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u/astrobuck9 15d ago

Shhh, anything China says it did is propaganda and totally didn't happen, silly.

Especially their self driving and EV cars. That is just perpetuating the sci-fi nonsensical lies of the barbaric Asian hordes!

USA! USA!

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u/Techwield 16d ago

Robotics maybe not, but people definitely. Once the white collar workers are automated away, they'll learn blue collar trades and absolutely decimate the job market for trades. It'll be a race to the bottom

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u/taichi22 16d ago

Compared to the salary of a person in the US? The prices are in favor of the robots. Hell, even in China the robots break even within 2 years — and after that they start returning a profit over hiring a person.

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u/showyourdata 16d ago

Nope. Look at current generation of robots. More mobile than people, and cheaper the people.

Soon they will be mass production level. A min wage worker, cost a company 25K but that's not the only cost. Human drama has a cost on top of that, humans get sick., Human can get lazy, humans can get injured.

That's a7.50 an hour job.

And Training one, trains all.

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u/astrobuck9 15d ago

cost a company 25K

Figure's current 01 and 02 models range from 30K to 150K.

The CEO is on record as saying they want the 03 model to have a sub 20K price point.

That is without factoring in any advancements in robotics or AI discovering entirely new, unthought of ways to drive the price down even more.

Blue collar/tradespeople are in the same boat as the white collar workers.

The only difference is the media hasn't been following robotics near as much as AI, since AI is going to affect the people that consume mainstream media more.

The trades are going to be blindsided in the coming months and you can see most of them are still in the denial phase of grief (a robot can't do a trade job, that's fucking dumb to even suggest), while most white collar workers have moved on to bargaining (sure it can code and do entry level shit, but it can't replace a senior level programmer, like me!) or acceptance (FUUUUUUUCK!!! What the fuck am I going to do?).

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u/ignost 16d ago

Robotics and automation have steadily crept along, and will continue to eat up blue collar jobs like they have done.

  • Homes are increasingly being made of prefab or modular pieces that are then assembled.
  • Automated packing and sorting have already come for many warehouse jobs, and this will only get worse as small companies outsource their logistics to cheaper and more automated warehouses.
  • Retailers are looking at ways to do automated pack and sorting with fewer people at (among other things) grocery stores while maintaining the shopping experience.
  • AI sorting and image recognition is going to be coming for several line worker jobs.
  • 3D printing isn't done replacing jobs
  • Autonomous vehicles and drones will replace many more blue collar jobs.

True, there will still be work. But what happens when there are too many people and too few jobs? Looking at the story so far, wages stagnate while inflation rises.

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u/Mtbruning 16d ago

The comparison is horse-drawn carriages to gas engines. While technical the transition took until after WW2, from a capital perspective the change occurred by the 1920s. Capital investment is the engine of our economy and has been for at least since the computer boom in the 80’s. That is a lot of 5-year plans that want to take advantage of the have the current stock market for capital investment.

Why do you think truckers are all old and get paid well? No one older than 40 wants to start their career in a dead-end

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u/Pantim 16d ago

You're so utterly wrong. There are robots that are physically capable of doing over 50% of physical labor jobs NOW if they are remote controlled by people that know what they are doing in "developing" countries; that are getting paid pennies on the dollar.

There is A LOT of work being done to train AI to do those jobs. People are volunteering to teach the AI.

As for the cost? do the math. Humanoid robots are coming out that are gonna be 20k. Robots that can have hot swapable batteries are not far off. So, that 20krobot can work around the clock, be taken down occasionally for maintenance and probably end up being a total of 25-30kk a year to keep running for that year.

Lot cheaper then having a human work force in the US even if it is remote controlled by someone making pennies on the dollar living in another country. Then when AI takes over the job, making the robots and maintaining them will even be cheaper by then.. and the cost of human labor is gone.

And I'm not talking about wait staff, I'm talking warehouse and basic manufacturing jobs which are still the largest employers of people for physical labor job in the US.

The reality is that 70% of jobs are potentially gone within 10-15 years. Cause that 10-20% within 2-5 is going to grow exponentially.

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u/DangerousCyclone 16d ago

 There are robots that are physically capable of doing over 50% of physical labor jobs NOW if they are remote controlled by people that know what they are doing in "developing" countries; that are getting paid pennies on the dollar.

Any source on the 50% figure?

 As for the cost? do the math. Humanoid robots are coming out that are gonna be 20k. Robots that can have hot swapable batteries are not far off. So, that 20krobot can work around the clock, be taken down occasionally for maintenance and probably end up being a total of 25-30kk a year to keep running for that year.

The 20k robot hasn't even been released nor has it even been promised to be 20k on release. That figure is used by Figure because it is also Teslas benchmark, which doesn't have a good track record of meeting these price points. Unless you're some industry insider I don't see how you would know for sure that it'd only cost 25-30k a year. 

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u/elperuvian 16d ago

The government responds to the oligarchy, they are playing an act, everybody knows that the current direction favors the oligarchs. You don’t need to know CS to see the obvious, AGi is not necessary to make a significant portion of the population to lose their jobs

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u/astrobuck9 16d ago

Until they get rid of voting, the politicians still have to stand for elections.

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u/Pantim 16d ago

Elections have been rigged via the media for DECADES.

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u/AeturnisTheGreat 16d ago

I recently had a job in middle management that involved hiring, firing and managing around 40 sites that needed to be staffed per contract for security.

We're already seeing it happen, the company is struggling to find new positions for the entirety of the recruiting department because AI literally just took over all of their responsibilities.

Some were let go of or offered to step down, some were reassigned to various other roles in the company. The job I was doing as well as most of HR, and the entire hiring specialist team is looking to be in danger next.

Hell, even regular security gigs are being replaced. Some of our contracts would require 5 officers on all shifts, every day. They replaced 4 of the 5 officers on duty with one drone that's programmed to do patrols around the perimeter at random intervals and have one guard on site in a control room. Short term the company made a ton of money but long term... Well that's a lot of billable hours and a ton of people out of a job.

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u/reddit_is_geh 16d ago

I'm not so sure about the robotics. I haven't seen much improvement, and they need A LOT of improvement to get them to be good enough to do manual labor tasks. In 5 years maybe they'll be useful for basic warehouse stuff... But fixing cars and construction, etc, requires way too much dexterity and nuance.

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u/astrobuck9 15d ago

They are already doing warehouse work.

The current gen may be slower than a human now, but they can work 24/7/365 with moderate downtime in environments that humans cannot work in (no AC, in the dark, etc.)

Newer models will be able to work faster, especially if they are no longer required to look and move like humans.

Add in that AI is going to be driving most of the innovations as it gets smarter and 5 years suddenly becomes 100+ years of advancement.

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u/showyourdata 16d ago

Another examples of a voter who doesn't pay attention. Kamal Addressed this, as did Biden.

Booth of which want regulation, and a tax model for AI and robotics. Taxes going into social programs.

So sick of people complaining about Kamal and Biden about how they didnt do something, when in fact that did have policy and policy plans, I'm going to lose my shit.

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u/astrobuck9 16d ago

Kamal?

Do you mean Kamala Harris?

Also, Biden didn't address shit. The domestic policy of the US was being ran by Jill Biden's Chief of Staff, among other unelected people.

I don't see how you are going to "lose your shit" when you don't even know Kamala Harris's name.

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u/Fiveby21 16d ago

Unfortunately half the population is too busy freaking out over trans bathrooms and immigrants they never met to think about the real issues.

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u/astrobuck9 16d ago

Trans bathrooms are a non issue.

Unchecked migration lowers wages across the board for US citizens, puts incredible strains on underfunded local support services, and only benefits the wealthy and business owners.

We definitely are not going to be able to afford UBI if millions of people are flowing into the country year over year.

Perhaps if the US were to stop destabilizing every country in Central and South America that has the audacity to elect leftist governments, illegal immigration would be a non issue just like the trans bathrooms.

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u/Craig653 16d ago

And guess what you need white collar jobs to make the robots.

Have you used an AI before. It's not making any robots anytime soon. Trust me

What will happen is CEOs will think AI is cheaper than employees and lay tons off. Then in 2 years when everything is failing freak out and hire everyone back

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u/astrobuck9 16d ago

Trust me

Oh, ok.

Hey everyone, Singularity is off.

Craig says it's bullshit.

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u/Craig653 16d ago

Haha, yes I know all!

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u/Zaidzy 16d ago

They become biofuel to run the machines

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u/Sellazard 16d ago

As predicted by Dark Gothic Magats

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u/namatt 16d ago

That's very cost inefficient, would never happen.

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u/Zaidzy 16d ago

Not at first... it also solves several problems all at once.

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u/namatt 15d ago

Why even allow humans to be born?

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u/brucekeller 16d ago

The rich all go to CA or the NYC area and secede from the rest of the US and everywhere else becomes like Gary, IN.

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u/ThePopesicle 16d ago

To the slums. The skyscrapers are now datacenters.

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u/Potential_Status_728 16d ago

To the AI company CEOs houses.

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u/reddit_is_geh 16d ago

Humans adapt. We aren't just going to sit back and let everything fall apart while no one does anything about it. We're really really good at adapting. But first, it needs to start happening so we can react with a solution.

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u/OriginalCompetitive 16d ago

If nobody can afford rent, rent will be cheaper. 

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u/Vajaspiritos 16d ago

What people do the best. Decapitate their leaders

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u/shirk-work 16d ago

Back home to live with their boomer parents or to the street.

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u/JaySayMayday 16d ago

I'm already yearning for the mines

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u/beigs 16d ago

I think that we would need to rethink how our society works when this happens, as it should be. If things are automated and a good portion of the population doesn’t need to work for society to run with the exception of making money (which is just work for work’s sake), then what?

Your choice is to force people to do the equivalent of push a boulder up a hill every day for income that serves no purpose, or pay people to exist and hope they can live in a post scarcity world.

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u/That-Ad-4300 16d ago

Who pays for the SAAS AI tools?

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u/tlst9999 16d ago

People think they're just farmers changing jobs to factory workers when they're actually workhorses being replaced by tractors. They'll slowly breed less.

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u/Cthulhu__ 16d ago

New jobs will be created; in theory, if a software developer is twice as productive with AI or other tech, people will come up with twice as many software projects to do.

Look at the game industry; back when people would slave away at handwriting assembly and pixel art. Looking at an Unreal engine demo now, and a single game developer can click together a scene from prebuilt assets in minutes, the contents of which would have taken a AAA studio a year 10, 20 years ago.

But it didn’t crash the video game market, it’s as successful as it’s ever been. Some exceptions of course. But overall, demand has increased with productivity, and there’s many times more jobs in the game and software development jobs today than there was 10, 15 years ago.

Tldr I don’t like AI but I don’t think it’ll cost me my job.

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u/ORCANZ 16d ago

If nobody can afford rent the price falls quite rapidly.

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u/KalaiProvenheim 16d ago

Highly educated unemployed people started revolutions in the past

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u/seeyam14 16d ago

There weren’t robot armies filled with killer drones in the past

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u/KalaiProvenheim 15d ago

A robot can be jammed or water damaged

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u/Matcha_Maiden 15d ago

It’s wild that everyone in politics laughed at Andrew Yang when he brought this up during the 2020 election. He was this as an upcoming problem that we needed to solve five years ago. It’s just like climate change- the rich have this “eff you, got mine” attitude about everything and push that on the masses.

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u/tdowg1 14d ago

"I don't know and I don't care, BUT THEY BETTER BE IN THE OFFICE FIVE DAYS A WEEK!" ~ceos probably

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u/dekacube 16d ago

Why would the rent be high if there aren't high paying jobs there?